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Kaldrenthebold 04/04/24 3:51:48 PM #451:	mystic_belmont posted... Your job as a voter is to vote the best choice among the two parties. If you don't like either choice, you should have, as a voter, walked into the voting booth during the primaries and voted for who you want. Complaining about a candidate, while not doing anything to push forward your preferred one, is very lazy. Expecting the candidate of your choice to be on board with 100% is childish. Do I wish Biden did more about Gaza and Israel? Absolutely. Is Trump so much worse? Absolutely. He has stated he's going to be a dictator, he has project 2025 backing him up. Ding ding ding. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:979732088] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>mystic_belmont posted... </cite><quote>Your job as a voter is to vote the best choice among the two parties.If you don't like either choice, you should have, as a voter, walked into the voting booth during the primaries and voted for who you want.Complaining about a candidate, while not doing anything to push forward your preferred one, is very lazy.Expecting the candidate of your choice to be on board with 100% is childish.Do I wish Biden did more about Gaza and Israel? Absolutely.Is Trump so much worse? Absolutely. He has stated he's going to be a dictator, he has project 2025 backing him up.</quote>Ding ding ding. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/04/24 3:51:53 PM #452:	mystic_belmont posted... Expecting the candidate of your choice to be on board with 100% is childish. There's a bit of a difference between accepting a compromise on, say, tax policy or legalized cannabis, versus accepting a compromise on fucking genocide. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979732090] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>mystic_belmont posted... </cite><quote>Expecting the candidate of your choice to be on board with 100% is childish.</quote>There's a bit of a difference between accepting a compromise on, say, tax policy or legalized cannabis, versus accepting a compromise on fucking genocide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 04/04/24 3:51:56 PM #453:	Trumble posted... When your country keeps your politics to itself instead of influencing the rest of the world, you can tell us to stay out of it. Until then, we have every right to debate and attempt to influence it. Which you can't do in our elections because you can't vote in them. You can just sit on your high horse and tell other people that "you're super sad about Palestinians so stay home and do nothing." Pretty fucked. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:979732092] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>When your country keeps your politics to itself instead of influencing the rest of the world, you can tell us to stay out of it. Until then, we have every right to debate and attempt to influence it.</quote>Which you can't do in our elections because you can't vote in them. You can just sit on your high horse and tell other people that "you're super sad about Palestinians so stay home and do nothing."Pretty fucked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McMarbles 04/04/24 3:52:19 PM #454:	1337toothbrush posted... No, I'm saying that you keep dragging out this strawman and it's akin to claiming that you must not care about genocide, except in this case you might actually not care about genocide because you keep trying to change the subject. The guy whose response to everything is "SO I GUESS YOU LIKE GENOCIDE????" really has no leg to stand on when accusing others of strawmanning. --- Currently playing: Final Fantasy VI Pixel Remaster (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. <cite>McMarbles posted [p:979732099] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>No, I'm saying that you keep dragging out this strawman and it's akin to claiming that you must not care about genocide, except in this case you might actually not care about genocide because you keep trying to change the subject.</quote>The guy whose response to everything is "SO I GUESS YOU LIKE GENOCIDE????" really has no leg to stand on when accusing others of strawmanning. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 04/04/24 3:52:23 PM #455:	Trumble posted... I think it's well established at this point that the die-hard Biden supporters do not care about genocide You made this up. No one is pro genocide, shut the fuck up. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:979732102] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>I think it's well established at this point that the die-hard Biden supporters do not care about genocide</quote>You made this up.No one is pro genocide, shut the fuck up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/04/24 3:52:40 PM #456:	Cemith posted... Which you can't do in our elections because you can't vote in them. You can just sit on your high horse and tell other people that "you're super sad about Palestinians so stay home and do nothing." Pretty fucked. I can't vote, sure. I still very much can discuss it, including with people who can vote, and you are utterly delusional if you think I "can't" do that. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979732107] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Cemith posted... </cite><quote>Which you can't do in our elections because you can't vote in them. You can just sit on your high horse and tell other people that "you're super sad about Palestinians so stay home and do nothing."Pretty fucked.</quote>I can't vote, sure. I still very much can discuss it, including with people who can vote, and you are utterly delusional if you think I "can't" do that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 04/04/24 3:52:40 PM #457:	havean776 posted... You have not given a way to stop the genocide and oppose the only man who is calling for a ceasefire. He's the one blocking a binding vote on a cease fire though. You can't give him credit for allegedly doing a thing and imply that it's good, and also at the same time argue that it's fine that he's not doing the thing. And most of the American public is calling for a ceasefire, it's only among the political class that it's not popular. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:979732108] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>havean776 posted... </cite><quote>You have not given a way to stop the genocide and oppose the only man who is calling for a ceasefire.</quote>He's the one blocking a binding vote on a cease fire though. You can't give him credit for allegedly doing a thing and imply that it's good, and also at the same time argue that it's fine that he's not doing the thing. And most of the American public is calling for a ceasefire, it's only among the political class that it's not popular. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 04/04/24 3:53:13 PM #458:	mystic_belmont posted... Your job as a voter is to vote the best choice among the two parties. If you don't like either choice, you should have, as a voter, walked into the voting booth during the primaries and voted for who you want. Complaining about a candidate, while not doing anything to push forward your preferred one, is very lazy. Expecting the candidate of your choice to be on board with 100% is childish. Do I wish Biden did more about Gaza and Israel? Absolutely. Is Trump so much worse? Absolutely. He has stated he's going to be a dictator, he has project 2025 backing him up. Cool. None of this has to do with the topic which is stating that biden is hurting his chances with the general voting public by supporting genocide. Why doesn't he stop supporting genocide and improve his poll numbers that way? What's the downside? Instead you get people in here screaming "BUT THE OTHER GUY!!!" and other irrelevant shit. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:979732113] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>mystic_belmont posted... </cite><quote>Your job as a voter is to vote the best choice among the two parties.If you don't like either choice, you should have, as a voter, walked into the voting booth during the primaries and voted for who you want.Complaining about a candidate, while not doing anything to push forward your preferred one, is very lazy.Expecting the candidate of your choice to be on board with 100% is childish.Do I wish Biden did more about Gaza and Israel? Absolutely.Is Trump so much worse? Absolutely. He has stated he's going to be a dictator, he has project 2025 backing him up.</quote>Cool. None of this has to do with the topic which is stating that biden is hurting his chances with the general voting public by supporting genocide. Why doesn't he stop supporting genocide and improve his poll numbers that way? What's the downside? Instead you get people in here screaming "BUT THE OTHER GUY!!!" and other irrelevant shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroicObiWan 04/04/24 3:53:19 PM #459:	1337toothbrush posted... No, I'm saying that you keep dragging out this strawman and it's akin to claiming that you must not care about genocide, except in this case you might actually not care about genocide because you keep trying to change the subject. Instead of asking Biden to stop this, why not ask Hamas to surrender? And what is your solution for israel's safety should they fail to surrender? I'm not saying October 7th's attacks justify the actions of Israel. But nobody ever seems to have any answers to this question: What is Israel SUPPOSED to do? You can say "Not commit genocide" until the end of time, but it doesn't answer the goddamn question. Hamas is still, in the end the problem. You can say that Israel is part of the problem too, and they absolutely are. But Hamas is a terrorist organization, and if they had the power Israel has, there really would be a genocide. Only it'd be Israel that was wiped out, and it'd be far worse than what's happening in Gaza. Again, Israel has to be better. But I almost NEVER see anyone that's pro-palestinian call on Hamas to surrender or blame them for what's going on. Because they played a HUGE role in this. Hamas has to be removed. How do YOU propose that happens? --- These are not the droids you are looking for. <cite>HeroicObiWan posted [p:979732116] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>No, I'm saying that you keep dragging out this strawman and it's akin to claiming that you must not care about genocide, except in this case you might actually not care about genocide because you keep trying to change the subject.</quote>Instead of asking Biden to stop this, why not ask Hamas to surrender? And what is your solution for israel's safety should they fail to surrender? I'm not saying October 7th's attacks justify the actions of Israel. But nobody ever seems to have any answers to this question: What is Israel SUPPOSED to do? You can say "Not commit genocide" until the end of time, but it doesn't answer the goddamn question. Hamas is still, in the end the problem. You can say that Israel is part of the problem too, and they absolutely are. But Hamas is a terrorist organization, and if they had the power Israel has, there really would be a genocide. Only it'd be Israel that was wiped out, and it'd be far worse than what's happening in Gaza. Again, Israel has to be better. But I almost NEVER see anyone that's pro-palestinian call on Hamas to surrender or blame them for what's going on. Because they played a HUGE role in this. Hamas has to be removed. How do YOU propose that happens? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMojoRising 04/04/24 3:53:28 PM #460:	Shadow_Don posted... Again downplaying trump. Very strange. Like I said, if you think this is the last election of your lifetime, go ahead and vote Biden. But if you're trying to convince me to support a genocide enabler by pointing to a law declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, it's just not a very convincing argument. Now imagine making it to someone who lost a family member. Horrifying. --- https://myanimelist.net/profile/MistrMojoRisin <cite>MrMojoRising posted [p:979732121] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Shadow_Don posted... </cite><quote>Again downplaying trump.Very strange.</quote>Like I said, if you think this is the last election of your lifetime, go ahead and vote Biden. But if you're trying to convince me to support a genocide enabler by pointing to a law declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, it's just not a very convincing argument. Now imagine making it to someone who lost a family member. Horrifying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 04/04/24 3:53:45 PM #461:	Trumble posted... There's a bit of a difference between accepting a compromise on, say, tax policy or legalized cannabis, versus accepting a compromise on fucking genocide. You are acting like this is the biggest and most ultimate issue for us Americans. That is not the case. There is much more in this election than the Israel Palestine conflict. MUCH more. And while it might sound callous, I would wager a majority of Americans, when it comes time to throw in a ballot, will not care about Gaza in the slightest and will care about their own lives. That's the long and short of it. Why would someone living paycheck to paycheck really care when one candidate will ruin their lives by removing entitlements and the other won't? You think they care? --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:979732129] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>There's a bit of a difference between accepting a compromise on, say, tax policy or legalized cannabis, versus accepting a compromise on fucking genocide.</quote>You are acting like this is the biggest and most ultimate issue for us Americans. That is not the case. There is much more in this election than the Israel Palestine conflict. MUCH more. And while it might sound callous, I would wager a majority of Americans, when it comes time to throw in a ballot, will not care about Gaza in the slightest and will care about their own lives. That's the long and short of it. Why would someone living paycheck to paycheck really care when one candidate will ruin their lives by removing entitlements and the other won't? You think they care? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 04/04/24 3:54:13 PM #462:	McMarbles posted... The guy whose response to everything is "SO I GUESS YOU LIKE GENOCIDE????" really has no leg to stand on when accusing others of strawmanning. I responded to a strawman with a strawman to show how ridiculous it was. That you failed to see this obvious point is both ridiculous and hilarious. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:979732133] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>McMarbles posted... </cite><quote>The guy whose response to everything is "SO I GUESS YOU LIKE GENOCIDE????" really has no leg to stand on when accusing others of strawmanning.</quote>I responded to a strawman with a strawman to show how ridiculous it was. That you failed to see this obvious point is both ridiculous and hilarious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 04/04/24 3:54:38 PM #463:	MrMojoRising posted... Like I said, if you think this is the last election of your lifetime, go ahead and vote Biden. But if you're trying to convince me to support a genocide enabler by pointing to a law declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, it's just not a very convincing argument. Now imagine making it to someone who lost a family member. Horrifying. We get it. You're okay with another Trump presidency and project 2025 because you're not in the group that would be affected negatively by this. --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:979732142] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>Like I said, if you think this is the last election of your lifetime, go ahead and vote Biden. But if you're trying to convince me to support a genocide enabler by pointing to a law declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, it's just not a very convincing argument. Now imagine making it to someone who lost a family member. Horrifying.</quote>We get it. You're okay with another Trump presidency and project 2025 because you're not in the group that would be affected negatively by this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/04/24 3:54:45 PM #464:	Kaldrenthebold posted... You are acting like this is the biggest and most ultimate issue for us Americans. That is not the case. There is much more in this election than the Israel Palestine conflict. MUCH more. And while it might sound callous, I would wager a majority of Americans, when it comes time to throw in a ballot, will not care about Gaza in the slightest and will care about their own lives. That's the long and short of it. Why would someone living paycheck to paycheck really care when one candidate will ruin their lives by removing entitlements and the other won't? You think they care? At least those people are honest that it's not an issue to them (or possibly are barely aware of it at all), unlike people ITT who keep downplaying or outright denying it or deflecting from it. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979732145] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Kaldrenthebold posted... </cite><quote>You are acting like this is the biggest and most ultimate issue for us Americans. That is not the case. There is much more in this election than the Israel Palestine conflict. MUCH more. And while it might sound callous, I would wager a majority of Americans, when it comes time to throw in a ballot, will not care about Gaza in the slightest and will care about their own lives. That's the long and short of it. Why would someone living paycheck to paycheck really care when one candidate will ruin their lives by removing entitlements and the other won't? You think they care?</quote>At least those people are honest that it's not an issue to them (or possibly are barely aware of it at all), unlike people ITT who keep downplaying or outright denying it or deflecting from it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 04/04/24 3:55:28 PM #465:	Garioshi posted... Unconditionally supporting Israel's genocide of Palestine is the #1 thing that is killing his electoral chances What's absolutely hilarious about this point is that the people who refuse to vote for Biden because of this will be directly responsible for letting Trump win. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:979732156] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Garioshi posted... </cite><quote>Unconditionally supporting Israel's genocide of Palestine is the #1 thing that is killing his electoral chances</quote>What's absolutely hilarious about this point is that the people who refuse to vote for Biden because of this will be directly responsible for letting Trump win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMojoRising 04/04/24 3:55:35 PM #466:	Will_VIIII posted... We get it. You're okay with another Trump presidency and project 2025 because you're not in the group that would be affected negatively by this. That's really the only thing you have left? Pretending I'm white to make yourself feel better? One hell of a last argument, I'll give you that. --- https://myanimelist.net/profile/MistrMojoRisin <cite>MrMojoRising posted [p:979732159] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite><quote>We get it. You're okay with another Trump presidency and project 2025 because you're not in the group that would be affected negatively by this.</quote>That's really the only thing you have left? Pretending I'm white to make yourself feel better? One hell of a last argument, I'll give you that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 04/04/24 3:55:37 PM #467:	Trumble posted... At least those people are honest that it's not an issue to them (or possibly are barely aware of it at all), unlike people ITT who keep downplaying or outright denying it or deflecting from it. No, just calling out hyperbole and false equivalency --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:979732160] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>At least those people are honest that it's not an issue to them (or possibly are barely aware of it at all), unlike people ITT who keep downplaying or outright denying it or deflecting from it.</quote>No, just calling out hyperbole and false equivalency </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 04/04/24 3:55:43 PM #468:	MrMojoRising posted... Like I said, if you think this is the last election of your lifetime, go ahead and vote Biden. But if you're trying to convince me to support a genocide enabler by pointing to a law declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, it's just not a very convincing argument. Now imagine making it to someone who lost a family member. Horrifying. Its almost like the Supreme Court was different then and will change again under another trump presidency But you know this already and still made the argument in an attempt to downplay trumps next presidency --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:979732164] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>Like I said, if you think this is the last election of your lifetime, go ahead and vote Biden. But if you're trying to convince me to support a genocide enabler by pointing to a law declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, it's just not a very convincing argument. Now imagine making it to someone who lost a family member. Horrifying.</quote>Its almost like the Supreme Court was different then and will change again under another trump presidency But you know this already and still made the argument in an attempt to downplay trumps next presidency </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 04/04/24 3:55:52 PM #469:	Kaldrenthebold posted... Why would someone living paycheck to paycheck really care when one candidate will ruin their lives by removing entitlements and the other won't? You think they care? Florida is about to enact a six week abortion ban. Should I simply not vote so as to not support genocide? --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:979732166] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Kaldrenthebold posted... </cite><quote>Why would someone living paycheck to paycheck really care when one candidate will ruin their lives by removing entitlements and the other won't? You think they care?</quote>Florida is about to enact a six week abortion ban. Should I simply not vote so as to not support genocide? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McMarbles 04/04/24 3:56:02 PM #470:	Trumble posted... I can't vote, sure. I still very much can discuss it, including with people who can vote, and you are utterly delusional if you think I "can't" do that. You can do whatever you want, but you can't make me take your ignorant ass seriously. --- Currently playing: Final Fantasy VI Pixel Remaster (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. <cite>McMarbles posted [p:979732170] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>I can't vote, sure. I still very much can discuss it, including with people who can vote, and you are utterly delusional if you think I "can't" do that.</quote>You can do whatever you want, but you can't make me take your ignorant ass seriously. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 04/04/24 3:56:13 PM #471:	MrMojoRising posted... Yeah it's very insulting, and I've seen lots of (white) people get checked on it when they go to Michigan and say stuff like this. The genocide enabled by Biden has killed more Arabs and Muslims than Trump has ever banned or possibly could ever ban. So Trump will end genocide? No you will refuse to answer the queation becauae you are dishonest and support Trump. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:979732174] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>Yeah it's very insulting, and I've seen lots of (white) people get checked on it when they go to Michigan and say stuff like this. The genocide enabled by Biden has killed more Arabs and Muslims than Trump has ever banned or possibly could ever ban.</quote>So Trump will end genocide? No you will refuse to answer the queation becauae you are dishonest and support Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/04/24 3:56:15 PM #472:	Will_VIIII posted... No, just calling out hyperbole and false equivalency I mean given that you yourself were one of the people denying the genocide.... --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979732176] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite><quote>No, just calling out hyperbole and false equivalency</quote>I mean given that you yourself were one of the people denying the genocide.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 04/04/24 3:56:23 PM #473:	Will_VIIII posted... We get it. You're okay with another Trump presidency and project 2025 because you're not in the group that would be affected negatively by this. Fascism always has a smaller and smaller in-group. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:979732178] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite><quote>We get it. You're okay with another Trump presidency and project 2025 because you're not in the group that would be affected negatively by this.</quote>Fascism always has a smaller and smaller in-group. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 04/04/24 3:56:41 PM #474:	Gobstoppers12 posted... What's absolutely hilarious about this point is that the people who refuse to vote for Biden because of this will be directly responsible for letting Trump win. What's actually hilarious, in a dark humor sort of way, is that biden is so much of a diehard fan of genocide that he would rather support genocide full-throatedly than stop it to improve his poll numbers. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:979732182] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Gobstoppers12 posted... </cite><quote>What's absolutely hilarious about this point is that the people who refuse to vote for Biden because of this will be directly responsible for letting Trump win.</quote>What's actually hilarious, in a dark humor sort of way, is that biden is so much of a diehard fan of genocide that he would rather support genocide full-throatedly than stop it to improve his poll numbers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMojoRising 04/04/24 3:57:17 PM #475:	mystic_belmont posted... Florida is about to enact a six week abortion ban. Should I simply not vote so as to not support genocide? You know you can vote for the constitutional amendment, right? If that one wins, abortion will actually be protected. If Biden wins, things will most likely stay the same or get worse under our legislature. --- https://myanimelist.net/profile/MistrMojoRisin <cite>MrMojoRising posted [p:979732186] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>mystic_belmont posted... </cite><quote>Florida is about to enact a six week abortion ban. Should I simply not vote so as to not support genocide?</quote>You know you can vote for the constitutional amendment, right? If that one wins, abortion will actually be protected. If Biden wins, things will most likely stay the same or get worse under our legislature. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 04/04/24 3:57:28 PM #476:	So we're just gonna have these topics hit 500 until November I guess? --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:979732190] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>So we're just gonna have these topics hit 500 until November I guess? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McMarbles 04/04/24 3:57:30 PM #477:	MrMojoRising posted... Like I said, if you think this is the last election of your lifetime, go ahead and vote Biden. But if you're trying to convince me to support a genocide enabler by pointing to a law declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, it's just not a very convincing argument. Now imagine making it to someone who lost a family member. Horrifying. Who appointed three of those six justices? --- Currently playing: Final Fantasy VI Pixel Remaster (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. <cite>McMarbles posted [p:979732191] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>Like I said, if you think this is the last election of your lifetime, go ahead and vote Biden. But if you're trying to convince me to support a genocide enabler by pointing to a law declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, it's just not a very convincing argument. Now imagine making it to someone who lost a family member. Horrifying.</quote>Who appointed three of those six justices? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/04/24 3:57:38 PM #478:	1337toothbrush posted... What's actually hilarious, in a dark humor sort of way, is that biden is so much of a diehard fan of genocide that he would rather support genocide full-throatedly than stop it to improve his poll numbers. And that his supporters feel the need to downplay or deny it. That suggests that somewhere inside, they KNOW it's wrong, but can't bring themselves to admit that (at best) they don't care. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979732194] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>What's actually hilarious, in a dark humor sort of way, is that biden is so much of a diehard fan of genocide that he would rather support genocide full-throatedly than stop it to improve his poll numbers.</quote>And that his supporters feel the need to downplay or deny it. That suggests that somewhere inside, they KNOW it's wrong, but can't bring themselves to admit that (at best) they don't care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 04/04/24 3:57:47 PM #479:	Trumble posted... I mean given that you yourself were one of the people denying the genocide.... I mean given that you continue to use the word incorrectly and have yet to provide a solution for US voters in November... --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:979732197] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>I mean given that you yourself were one of the people denying the genocide....</quote>I mean given that you continue to use the word incorrectly and have yet to provide a solution for US voters in November... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMojoRising 04/04/24 3:57:58 PM #480:	McMarbles posted... Who appointed three of those six justices? Why did he get to do that? --- https://myanimelist.net/profile/MistrMojoRisin <cite>MrMojoRising posted [p:979732200] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>McMarbles posted... </cite><quote>Who appointed three of those six justices?</quote>Why did he get to do that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 04/04/24 3:58:08 PM #481:	MrMojoRising posted... You know you can vote for the constitutional amendment, right? If that one wins, abortion will actually be protected. If Biden wins, things will most likely stay the same or get worse under our legislature. I plan to vote for Biden, and both the marijuana amendment and the abortion amendment. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:979732204] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>You know you can vote for the constitutional amendment, right? If that one wins, abortion will actually be protected. If Biden wins, things will most likely stay the same or get worse under our legislature.</quote>I plan to vote for Biden, and both the marijuana amendment and the abortion amendment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 04/04/24 3:58:08 PM #482:	How does Biden losing help Palestine? --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:979732205] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>How does Biden losing help Palestine? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 04/04/24 3:58:29 PM #483:	SaikyoStyle posted... How does Biden losing help Palestine? It'll teach him a lesson. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:979732214] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>SaikyoStyle posted... </cite><quote>How does Biden losing help Palestine?</quote>It'll teach him a lesson. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/04/24 3:58:31 PM #484:	MrMojoRising posted... You know you can vote for the constitutional amendment, right? If that one wins, abortion will actually be protected. If Biden wins, things will most likely stay the same or get worse under our legislature. Don't be silly. Didn't you know that if someone doesn't intend to vote specifically for Biden they're not allowed to vote certian ways on referendums either? /S --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979732215] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>You know you can vote for the constitutional amendment, right? If that one wins, abortion will actually be protected. If Biden wins, things will most likely stay the same or get worse under our legislature.</quote>Don't be silly. Didn't you know that if someone doesn't intend to vote specifically for Biden they're not allowed to vote certian ways on referendums either? /S </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 04/04/24 3:58:42 PM #485:	MrMojoRising posted... You know you can vote for the constitutional amendment, right? If that one wins, abortion will actually be protected. If Biden wins, things will most likely stay the same or get worse under our legislature. How will they get worse? Because that's a statement that's basically false information and that's a moddable offense without context. --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:979732219] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>You know you can vote for the constitutional amendment, right? If that one wins, abortion will actually be protected. If Biden wins, things will most likely stay the same or get worse under our legislature.</quote>How will they get worse? Because that's a statement that's basically false information and that's a moddable offense without context. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMojoRising 04/04/24 3:58:49 PM #486:	mystic_belmont posted... I plan to vote for Biden, and both the marijuana amendment and the abortion amendment. Right, I assumed. But let's not pretend that voting for Biden is what's actually going to cement the right to choose here. --- https://myanimelist.net/profile/MistrMojoRisin <cite>MrMojoRising posted [p:979732222] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>mystic_belmont posted... </cite><quote>I plan to vote for Biden, and both the marijuana amendment and the abortion amendment.</quote>Right, I assumed. But let's not pretend that voting for Biden is what's actually going to cement the right to choose here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-ZIO- 04/04/24 3:58:50 PM #487:	WingsOfGood posted... So Trump will end genocide? No you will refuse to answer the queation becauae you are dishonest and support Trump. The people who have lost family members to this genocide see it as Biden who chose to let it happen. Is openly supporting it. They're not seeing whether Trump will do the same. What they know and see is that Biden allowed their family members to be killed. That is all they care about. --- (He/Him) <cite>-ZIO- posted [p:979732223] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>So Trump will end genocide? No you will refuse to answer the queation becauae you are dishonest and support Trump.</quote>The people who have lost family members to this genocide see it as Biden who chose to let it happen. Is openly supporting it. They're not seeing whether Trump will do the same. What they know and see is that Biden allowed their family members to be killed. That is all they care about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 04/04/24 3:59:01 PM #488:	MrMojoRising posted... If Biden wins, things will most likely stay the same or get worse under our legislature. Lmfao i love how this argument works for Biden But its incomprehensible how things would get worse under trump --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:979732226] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>If Biden wins, things will most likely stay the same or get worse under our legislature.</quote>Lmfao i love how this argument works for Biden But its incomprehensible how things would get worse under trump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 04/04/24 3:59:05 PM #489:	Kaldrenthebold posted... Ding ding ding. This view is in itself childish. It ignores the role of vested political and financial interests, political parties, the role of the media aligned with and owned by those interests, the difficulty of funding a campaign, the decades of propaganda against left of center and anti-war candidates etc etc etc. Candidates that would have opposed this are not on the ballot, not because they're not popular, not because they don't exist, but because such people never get that far in the current system anyway. I will never ever ever concede that expecting a candidate not to facilitate a genocide is childish. I do expect all my candidates to be 100 percent aligned on that basic requirement. Yes, I do. The fact that we've gotten to a place where keeping to that basement level expectation is regarded as pie in the sky idealism is the problem itself. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:979732228] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Kaldrenthebold posted... </cite><quote>Ding ding ding.</quote>This view is in itself childish. It ignores the role of vested political and financial interests, political parties, the role of the media aligned with and owned by those interests, the difficulty of funding a campaign, the decades of propaganda against left of center and anti-war candidates etc etc etc. Candidates that would have opposed this are not on the ballot, not because they're not popular, not because they don't exist, but because such people never get that far in the current system anyway.I will never ever ever concede that expecting a candidate not to facilitate a genocide is childish. I do expect all my candidates to be 100 percent aligned on that basic requirement. Yes, I do. The fact that we've gotten to a place where keeping to that basement level expectation is regarded as pie in the sky idealism is the problem itself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 04/04/24 3:59:11 PM #490:	MrMojoRising posted... Why did he get to do that? Because people didn't like Clinton, so they thought "how bad could Trump be?" --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:979732229] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>Why did he get to do that?</quote>Because people didn't like Clinton, so they thought "how bad could Trump be?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 04/04/24 3:59:26 PM #491:	Mojo is a Trumper just fyi. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:979732235] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Mojo is a Trumper just fyi. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
havean776 04/04/24 3:59:33 PM #492:	MrMojoRising posted... Why did he get to do that? Because of people like you. WHo cared more for teaching Clinton a lesson than voting for their rights. --- "I will either find a way, or make one." Hannibal Barca <cite>havean776 posted [p:979732239] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>Why did he get to do that?</quote>Because of people like you. WHo cared more for teaching Clinton a lesson than voting for their rights. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMojoRising 04/04/24 3:59:51 PM #493:	Will_VIIII posted... How will they get worse? Because that's a statement that's basically false information and that's a moddable offense without context. Because regardless of Biden being president, things get worse in southern states. I know, you actually have to live here to know. And maybe be part of marginalized communities. And if you're not, maybe listen to them instead of assuming their identity and insulting them over and over. --- https://myanimelist.net/profile/MistrMojoRisin <cite>MrMojoRising posted [p:979732243] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite><quote>How will they get worse? Because that's a statement that's basically false information and that's a moddable offense without context.</quote>Because regardless of Biden being president, things get worse in southern states. I know, you actually have to live here to know. And maybe be part of marginalized communities. And if you're not, maybe listen to them instead of assuming their identity and insulting them over and over. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 04/04/24 3:59:58 PM #494:	Will_VIIII posted... How will they get worse? Because that's a statement that's basically false information and that's a moddable offense without context. Says the person repeatedly making false claims that Israel is not committing a genocide and/or Biden is not facilitating it. --- Do, or do not. There is no Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:979732245] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite><quote>How will they get worse? Because that's a statement that's basically false information and that's a moddable offense without context.</quote>Says the person repeatedly making false claims that Israel is not committing a genocide and/or Biden is not facilitating it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 04/04/24 4:00:11 PM #495:	mystic_belmont posted... Because people didn't like Clinton, so they thought "how bad could Trump be?" If clinton was such a bad candidate, why did democrat party want her as their nominee so badly? --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:979732247] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>mystic_belmont posted... </cite><quote>Because people didn't like Clinton, so they thought "how bad could Trump be?"</quote>If clinton was such a bad candidate, why did democrat party want her as their nominee so badly? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McMarbles 04/04/24 4:00:19 PM #496:	1337toothbrush posted... I responded to a strawman with a strawman to show how ridiculous it was. That you failed to see this obvious point is both ridiculous and hilarious. Literally every post you've made in this thread is "OH, BUT GENOCIDE????" so yeah, no, calling bullshit. --- Currently playing: Final Fantasy VI Pixel Remaster (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. <cite>McMarbles posted [p:979732251] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>I responded to a strawman with a strawman to show how ridiculous it was. That you failed to see this obvious point is both ridiculous and hilarious.</quote>Literally every post you've made in this thread is "OH, BUT GENOCIDE????" so yeah, no, calling bullshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 04/04/24 4:00:21 PM #497:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/22c069d9.jpg --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:979732253] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/22c069d9.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kingfrost 04/04/24 4:00:27 PM #498:	MrMojoRising posted... You know you can vote for the constitutional amendment, right? If that one wins, abortion will actually be protected. If Biden wins, things will most likely stay the same or get worse under our legislature. Thanks for proving that you're just a Trump supporter arguing in bad faith. You probably don't even care about Palestine. I'm sure some of the others here do. But you, most certainly do not. <cite>Kingfrost posted [p:979732255] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>MrMojoRising posted... </cite><quote>You know you can vote for the constitutional amendment, right? If that one wins, abortion will actually be protected. If Biden wins, things will most likely stay the same or get worse under our legislature.</quote>Thanks for proving that you're just a Trump supporter arguing in bad faith. You probably don't even care about Palestine. I'm sure some of the others here do. But you, most certainly do not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 04/04/24 4:00:44 PM #499:	McMarbles posted... Literally every post you've made in this thread is "OH, BUT GENOCIDE????" so yeah, no, calling bullshit. Because there are people unironically ignoring genocide and trying to change the subject. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:979732258] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>McMarbles posted... </cite><quote>Literally every post you've made in this thread is "OH, BUT GENOCIDE????" so yeah, no, calling bullshit.</quote>Because there are people unironically ignoring genocide and trying to change the subject. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 04/04/24 4:00:58 PM #500:	Screw Flanders --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:979732263] in If Biden l... [t:80738796]...</cite> <quote>Screw Flanders </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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