Current Events > If Biden loses the election, he has nobody to blame but himself

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And Biden has called for a cease fire

And Biden has called for a cease fire

And Biden has called for a cease fire

They need to change, that's why I can't vote for Joe Biden, lol. He's the antithesis of change. The fact that people are braving the possibility of another Trump term by withholding their vote should be seen as evidence of the betrayal by Joe Biden. The fact that it's seen as either childish idealism or helping conservatives just shows how truly damaged the party mentality is.

And what the fuck do you think people are trying to do by openly withholding votes for him?

I'm starting to believe these people outright support Israel's actions to be honest.

When have I ever threatened to not vote for biden or any democratic candidate? You're all making up strawmen to deflect from the real argument of "biden should stop supporting genocide" or as the opening post points out "biden should stop supporting genocide because it's hurting his poll numbers" since apparently biden only cares about poll numbers and doesn't give a shit about people's lives.

His words mean fuck all when he's still signing off on weapons deliveries and bypassing the normal procedures to do so; when his administration are still vetoing any meaningful UN resolutions against Israel.

Posts like this are just too far and show youre not arguing in good faith.

Nobody here supports israel

We get it. You'll tolerate another Trump presidency (which we know would make the situation worse) and project 2025.

Do you have an actual solution here?

That was how we get more student loans forgiveness?

Really?

Because I'm pretty sure it was other factors entirely.

Nobody here supports Trump either, but if you can draw that conclusion from them criticising Biden, I think it's fair to assume those who blindly defend and deflect from Biden can be assumed to support his stance on Israel.

"Abstaining from voting will lead to an outcome where Trump will win, which not only will not change the situation in Gaza but actively make it worse, in addition to, you know, all the other bad things that will happen."
"SO YOU SUPPORT GENOCIDE?"
I can play this game too. All day!

"You're only allowed to use our approved methods of protest. If we really don't want to do it, you're not allowed to protest it in other ways, you just have to suck it up and let us keep doing what we want."

"You're only allowed to use our approved methods of protest. If we really don't want to do it, you're not allowed to protest it in other ways, you just have to suck it up and let us keep doing what we want."

You don't even know what forms I'm talking about, because you barely have a surface-level understanding of American politics.

Okay, so why don't you educate me on how effective these forms have been at getting the desired result here?

So you're able to brave Trump, but not Biden?

You have on sevral posts shown that you think I support genocide because I am voting to protect my friends. You have made it very clear that you do not think protecting my friends is a worthwhile goal and that I should instead lay down and let the other side win to teach a lesson to my side.

So why is it okay for you to scream that me voting Biden is supporting Genocide?

Okay, so why don't you educate me on how effective these forms have been at getting the desired result here?

Educate yourself, you've shown repeatedly that you're not interested in learning.

What forms do you suggest?

Try reading my posts before replying because I've said none of that.

1337toothbrush posted... Says the one taking the privileged position of ignoring genocide.

1337toothbrush posted... So you're saying genocide is a small price to pay?

I'm able to brave both, I won't stomach voting for either. I love when someone asked me who I'm voting for, and I gave all the amendments I support and Dem senators I want to elect. But y'all are so partisan that you would call me a Trump supporter still even while I'm openly voting for Democratic senators and pro-abortion amendments. What kind of Trump supporter votes for those? Even going as far as assuming I'm white because maybe playing into identity politics might give them an edge (which is borderline racist btw). Oh but I must be lying lol. When people get so hyper-partisan and tribal, they even stop making any kind of sense.

...withholding votes until he changes his approach to this matter? You know, like in the post the other user was responding to?

Says the one taking the privileged position of ignoring genocide.

...withholding votes until he changes his approach to this matter? You know, like in the post the other user was responding to?

You quite literally said Biden is more evil than Trump because hes the reason Trump will win. While also saying Trump wont take away rights.

People call you a trump supporter because you carry water for Trump.

Got it; you know damn well that your ideas haven't worked and won't work on this issue, but that's okay because you don't want anything that might actually work to actually happen.

So allow Trump to win and allow my friends to suffer under his rule while genocide happens at a worse pace? No.

And what the fuck do you think people are trying to do by openly withholding votes for him?

And yet those same people insist they don't support the Palestinian genocide despite vehement support for a candidate who wants to continue it, to the point of assuming anyone who doesn't play along must secretly support the other guy.

DNC: "Shit. I guess that means we need to move further to the right on issues, and support Israel more."

I'm able to brave both,

In an ideal situation, Biden will realize that it's going to cost him the election and change course. We already know that regular protests and pressure won't cause him to budge on this.

I don't gamble with my friends lifes. Nor should you.

lmfao why would you even vote for these people then?

I'm able to brave both

You think you'll be in the in-group forever, don't you?

Remember when the Dems lost in 2016, and the lesson they learned?

What did the US get? An overturning of Roe v Wade and three new conservatives USSC justices.

This is privilege. Not everyone will be able to brave another Trump presidency

...withholding votes until he changes his approach to this matter? You know, like in the post the other user was responding to?

Never been.

Not voting is, by definition, inaction.

Lower vote turnout prefers the Right. You not being anywhere on any ballot doesn't tell anyone shit about dick.