Current Events > Republicans thinks Alexander the Great is woke

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Bwahahaha!

Maybe because they're fucking stupid reactionaries.

fucking lmao

Holy crap, the qanon shaman actually said something smart?

Tora_Sami posted...

Holy crap, the qanon shaman actually said something smart?

There's a subgroup of the right that has intense interest in Roman and Greek history, it's not that surprising.

Tora_Sami posted...

Holy crap, the qanon shaman actually said something smart?

Perhaps MAGA turning on him and calling him Antifa was a (somewhat) life-changing experience?

Guide posted...

There's a subgroup of the right that has intense interest in Roman and Greek history, it's not that surprising.

Usually just keep their mouth shut though if they know the truth but it goes against their sides agenda

Guide posted...

There's a subgroup of the right that has intense interest in Roman and Greek history, it's not that surprising.

I'd still kinda expect them to disregard the claim that a historical dude powerful and successful enough to be called "the Great" was also into dudes though.

Sexuality in the ancient world is complicated, it's not as black and white as people like to think it is. With a figure like Alexander the Great it's complicated because our surviving sources on him all come from centuries after his death and from people more interested in telling a moralizing story. Like Alexander taking the Persian king's former eunuch as his lover, Roman era writers might have used that as a means of showing Alexander becoming more like a Persian monarch.

In regard to homosexuality in a Macedonian context we can piece something out of contemporary sources. For example the assassination of Philip II being connected to love affairs he was having with his bodyguards, or the fact that Macedonian families sent their sons to serve the Macedonian court as a means to cement personal ties with the royal family. A Greek contemporary of Philip accused Philip's court of having bearded men having relationships with each other, among other "immoral" things, in a Greek context homosexual relationships outside of pederasty, a boy of around 13-17 and an adult man usually in his 30s, was seen as weird, but not unheard of in a Greek context, while in Macedonian royal culture it might have been normal for adult men to be in a relationship.

Is Caesar woke?

Hope they never learn about the Spartans.

Back then gay sex was manly and sex with your wife was "I guess I can have kids "

havean776 posted...

Hope they never learn about the Spartans.

They've seen the movie 300, what else is there to know?

Irony posted...

Back then gay sex was manly and sex with your wife was "I guess I can have kids "

Greek and Roman authors in general considered being submissive as being effeminate and taking the role of a woman and unworthy behavior among citizen men which is why that role was better suited for prostitutes and enslaved people.

But does he actually conquer anything

HannibalBarca3 posted...

Greek and Roman authors in general considered being submissive as being effeminate and taking the role of a woman and unworthy behavior among citizen men which is why that role was better suited for prostitutes and enslaved people.

It was also a part of the reason pederasty was so prevalent as well: boys are not men, so they are not required to "be the man" in the relationship.

Netflix obviously has access to a time machine, went back in time to make the rl Alexander like gay sex through...idk, we'll say magic I guess. Then they lept back to present day and made a series about it. Fucking diabolical

I've heard people jokingly call him "Alexander the Gay" a long time ago. Alexander the Great being non-straight is fairly common knowledge.

To be fair, most of them probably got everything they know about him from the Colin Farrell movie where he was portrayed as a 100% heterosexual alpha male with absolutely no hints of anything else going on.

He did no favors for Colin Farrell