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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Glas

On December 15, 2017, Glas was sentenced to six years in prison for taking $13.5 million from Brazilian conglomerate Odebrecht.

On 2 January 2018, under Ecuador's Constitution's Article 146, as Glas was unable to exercise his office for 90 days, he was stripped of his office. On 6 January 2018, Mara Alejandra Vicua was formally sworn in as Vice President of Ecuador after the National Assembly voted to approve her for the position.

In October 2019, The National Supreme Court of Justice reaffirmed his six-year prison sentence. Glas was imprisoned in Latacunga, south of Quito, in 2017.

In April 2020, Glas was sentenced to 8 years in prison for aggravated bribery by a Court of the National Court of Justice. In addition, he lost his political rights for 25 years.

In January 2021, Ecuador's Superior Court added another sentence of eight years in prison for misuse of public funds in an oil contract.

He was granted Habeas corpus on April 10, 2022, which allowed him to be released on parole for 40 days, which was revoked by a court in the province of Santa Elena, with which Jorge Glas was imprisoned again.

He fled to the Mexican embassy and was granted political asylum. On 5 April 2024, he was arrested by Ecuadorian police after they raided the embassy in Quito. After this incident, Ecuador and Mexico said that they will sever relations.

So... is this guy like verified to be super corrupt, or is he a victim of bs charges?
Cause if he really is that corrupt, then...don't really have much sympathy for him.
Imagine if the US jailed corrupt politicians with a vengeance like this.

streamofthesky posted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Glas

So... is this guy like verified to be super corrupt, or is he a victim of bs charges?
Cause if he really is that corrupt, then...don't really have much sympathy for him.
Imagine if the US jailed corrupt politicians with a vengeance like this.

I assume the issue is more conducting a raid on a foreign embassy than Jorge Glas himself

Thats like a massive breach in diplomacy. I cant believe Ecuador actually went through with this.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

I assume the issue is more conducting a raid on a foreign embassy than Jorge Glas himself

I know. But it's like how Iran abused "it's a consulate, no attackies here!" to have a shit load of IRG military members a few miles from Israel's borders or how Julian Assange abused embassy protections to evade justice for being a Russian spy and possible rapist.
Like yeah...technically you're not supposed to go after those buildings, but... in none of those cases do I actually care if those rules get bent. Evil people love abusing legal technicalities to hide behind.
Why is Mexico so vested in protecting his ass when his corrupt deals were w/ Brazil, anyway? Shouldn't it be Brazil protecting him? What's Mexico hiding?

Was there any build up to this? For example, did Mexico and Edcuador already have bad diplomatic relationship?

streamofthesky posted...

I know. But it's like how Iran abused "it's a consulate, no attackies here!" to have a shit load of IRG military members a few miles from Israel's borders or how Julian Assange abused embassy protections to evade justice for being a Russian spy and possible rapist.
Like yeah...technically you're not supposed to go after those buildings, but... in none of those cases do I actually care if those rules get bent. Evil people love abusing legal technicalities to hide behind.
Why is Mexico so vested in protecting his ass when his corrupt deals were w/ Brazil, anyway? Shouldn't it be Brazil protecting him? What's Mexico hiding?

When it comes to international treaty laws, they should just be followed unless something absolutely egregious and unprecedented is occurring. That didnt happen here.

I dont feel bad for Glas, but you cant just conduct a raid on a foreign embassy. Thats not how it works, and Mexico isnt in the wrong for treating this as a grave offense.

streamofthesky posted...

Like yeah...technically you're not supposed to go after those buildings, but...

There's no "technically" here. You just flat-out don't go after those buildings. I can't even think of any other examples offhand of a country's military just invading another nation's embassy like that.

Yeah, that's grounds for breaking off relations.

wtf was Ecuador even thinking with this? This is truly mind boggling to me.

UnholyMudcrab posted...

There's no "technically" here. It doesn't matter how bad the person being sheltered is, you just do not go after those buildings. I can't even think of any other examples offhand of a country's military or police just invading another nation's embassy like that.

There's probably been a bunch of cases where a spy in an embassy in a foreign country that's enemies to his home country got captured and no one said anything about it b/c it was more important to pretend they weren't there in the first place.

And obviously Mexico is justified to be upset about it. It's a pretty publicized/blatant egress, no country is going to say, "fair, next" when it happens in one of theirs and it becomes public knowledge.