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RetuenOfDevsman 04/08/24 11:18:28 AM #1: |
And shapeshifter stories should be kept on a very short leash.
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God_of_6strings 04/08/24 11:19:55 AM #2: |
Anything that has never happened in real life should absolutely NOT be allowed in fiction. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Daremo 04/08/24 11:20:17 AM #3: |
But we can still time travel to reset things back to status quo, right?
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UnsteadyOwl 04/08/24 11:23:57 AM #4: |
These are like any other narrative elements. They can be part of a good story but they're not a replacement for a good story.
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CARRRNE_ASADA 04/08/24 11:25:07 AM #5: |
I HATE multiverse and time traveling plot lines. Its a license to do whatever the fuck you want with the story instead of being creative.
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Accolon 04/08/24 11:28:24 AM #7: |
I feel like someone needs to do something really creative to shake up the multiverse idea.
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RetuenOfDevsman 04/08/24 11:30:02 AM #8: |
God_of_6strings posted...
Anything that has never happened in real life should absolutely NOT be allowed in fiction.It's not that. Let me give you an example. The Clayface intro episode in The Batman ends when --- There's a difference between canon and not-stupid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GiftedACIII 04/08/24 11:52:31 AM #9: |
I dislike AUs/multiverses that are very similar to the original universe because they imply that the main characters are always the most important people in every universe and very rarely do other ancient history change, it's just things in the present.
Similarly, not too fond of time travel either although I'm a little more lenient on that. I love shapeshifters though. Just give them some weaknesses. --- </topic> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 04/08/24 11:54:14 AM #10: |
CARRRNE_ASADA posted... I HATE multiverse and time traveling plot lines. Its a license to do whatever the fuck you want with the story instead of being creative.What about Everything, Everywhere, All At Once? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CARRRNE_ASADA 04/08/24 12:07:48 PM #11: |
Zikten posted...
What about Huh, the movie uses it almost in a satiric way. Its not so much concerned on the how and why of the multiverse, but how it serves to delve on philosophical themes. --- SEXY SEXY! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DuuuDe14 04/08/24 12:21:39 PM #12: |
The Thing. We still don't know what happens.
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ai123 04/08/24 12:26:49 PM #13: |
They are the current version of ' . . . and it was all a dream'.
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radical_rhino 04/08/24 12:33:01 PM #14: |
I have no problem with Marvel making the multiverse a core part of their current film arc, but everyone else copying them is whats annoying.
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Strider102 04/08/24 12:37:09 PM #15: |
What if alternate universe versions of you feel the same way though?
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Prestoff 04/08/24 12:47:45 PM #16: |
Zikten posted...
What about That's a great movie that uses the multiverse as a tool to tell a compelling story. The lazy way to use the Multiverse is the new Dr. Strange movie where it's just cameo trailer bait where there only purpose is to speak in exposition --- DI MOLTO! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuerrillaSoldier 04/08/24 1:09:02 PM #17: |
i think the opposite. we should get rid of canon and continuity. talk about stifling creativity.
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VampireCoyote 04/08/24 1:10:34 PM #18: |
No the opposite its already too late
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RetuenOfDevsman 04/08/24 1:18:08 PM #19: |
GuerrillaSoldier posted...
i think the opposite. we should get rid of canon and continuity. talk about stifling creativity.I agree with this also. We should honestly get back to oneshots. I would go so far as to say every sequel is an unnecessary sequel, or else you wrote the original wrong. --- There's a difference between canon and not-stupid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoenix 04/08/24 1:22:13 PM #20: |
radical_rhino posted...
I have no problem with Marvel making the multiverse a core part of their current film arc, but everyone else copying them is whats annoying Comics have been doing this for a long time --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoenix 04/08/24 1:24:55 PM #23: |
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Yeah time traveling opens up too many questions. --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 04/08/24 1:25:35 PM #24: |
Why are you attacking Fringe like that?
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Frosted_Midna 04/08/24 1:26:16 PM #25: |
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action52 04/08/24 1:27:48 PM #26: |
Great in the Spider-Verse movies
Okay in Marvel movies but getting old Bad pretty much everywhere else I've seen it recently I'm not necessarily opposed to it going forward but I want it to be a really novel idea or a REALLY funny premise. --- "It's Dyin' time." Captain Bruce Diehard, Die Hard ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zanzenburger 04/08/24 1:29:55 PM #27: |
GuerrillaSoldier posted...
i think the opposite. we should get rid of canon and continuity. talk about stifling creativity.Ehh, I like at least some semblance of continuity in my stories. A pet peeve of mine growing up was watching Courage the Cowardly Dog and seeing Eustis constantly getting killed or disfigured in gruesome ways and then coming back next episode like nothing happened. And then I was introduced to South Park... lol --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RetuenOfDevsman 04/08/24 1:35:38 PM #28: |
Sufferedphoenix posted...
Comics have been doing this for a long timeAnd it's been stupid for a long time. This is how Spider-Man ends up giving birth to himself and Superboy Prime ends up punching reality in an attempt to make all the plot holes go away. --- There's a difference between canon and not-stupid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheater87 04/08/24 1:36:24 PM #29: |
I love alternative history.
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Sufferedphoenix 04/08/24 1:45:20 PM #30: |
RetuenOfDevsman posted...
And it's been stupid for a long time. This is how Spider-Man ends up giving birth to himself and Superboy Prime ends up punching reality in an attempt to make all the plot holes go away. You can feel however you want about it. I was just pointing out this has been going on a lot longer than recent Marvel movies and TV shows --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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radical_rhino 04/08/24 3:58:05 PM #31: |
Frosted_Midna posted...
Even Mortal Kombat makes me hate it so much!I had almost forgot how fucking stupid the multiverse story is in new Mortal Kombat. --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kradek 04/08/24 4:03:03 PM #32: |
Nah, I love the concept when done well. Doing it well, in addition to time travel, just seems challenging for some.
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Sufferedphoenix 04/08/24 10:45:57 PM #33: |
radical_rhino posted...
I had almost forgot how fucking stupid the multiverse story is in new Mortal Kombat. Damn really? I prefer multiverse to be used sparingly in main continuity I like it more to be used as a way to tell stories that couldn't be told without it causing plotholes contradictions or just a all around different take on characters like red son superman. --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kafkaf 04/09/24 12:00:59 AM #34: |
rip Dr. Who, Star Trek, Twilight Zone, etc
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RetuenOfDevsman 04/09/24 12:58:21 AM #35: |
Kafkaf posted...
rip Dr. Who, Star Trek, Twilight Zone, etcThe anthology series is actually the ideal series format, so TZ can stay. --- There's a difference between canon and not-stupid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Very_Snappy 04/09/24 1:03:35 AM #36: |
Sufferedphoenix posted...
Comics have been doing this for a long timeAnd DC did it first, so Marvel is copying them. --- "I swear sometimes you need a ****ing lawyer to start a topic here" - Amenonuhoko My gaming blog: http://danongames.wordpress.com ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GiftedACIII 04/09/24 7:47:55 AM #37: |
GuerrillaSoldier posted...
i think the opposite. we should get rid of canon and continuity. talk about stifling creativity. Joke post? --- </topic> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 04/09/24 7:50:40 AM #38: |
There should be no limits to creativity. Yeah I get it it sucks when the same idea is used so much in a short period of time. When that happens people get sick of it. But to make that off limits is the wrong course of action.
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PurpleOutsider 04/09/24 8:01:03 AM #39: |
Prestoff posted...
That's a great movie that uses the multiverse as a tool to tell a compelling story. The lazy way to use the Multiverse is the new Dr. Strange movie where it's just cameo trailer bait where there only purpose is to speak in expositionNo, the main thing that that movie (along with What If...?) shows is how close Dr Strange is to being evil. We've seen two different variants of him literally destroy the entire world. All it took was one change in his past that spiraled out of control. You can't really tell that story with just premonitions, especially with a character as arrogant as Strange. He'd 100% disregard it. He needs to see it for himself. --- Your knowledge of scientific biological transmogrification is only outmatched by your zest for kung-fu treachery! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MangaBroski 04/09/24 8:02:55 AM #40: |
Multiverses can be really cool and fun ideas when executed right, like in Editing Everywhere All at Once, the Spider-Verse films, and Loki. Shapeshifter stories dont seem super common. They come up in horror every now and then, and the recent shapeshifter story I can think of was Nimona. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LonelyStoner 04/09/24 8:08:09 AM #41: |
I wouldnt say never, because Everything, Everywhere, All at Once was a great flick, but Marvel has been incredibly lazy with their multiverse use and they need to knock it off.
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orangefire25 04/09/24 8:10:42 AM #42: |
Rick and morty really started the trend back in 13'
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Sufferedphoenix 04/09/24 8:22:00 AM #43: |
orangefire25 posted...
Rick and morty really started the trend back in 13' Pretty sure it was common in DC media for a lot longer. One of their best animated movies imo is about the multiverse. It's called crisis on infinite earth's. The concept is foe every decision made a alternate universe is created where the opposite happens resulting in infinite universes. The villain feels this makes any decision utterly meaningless as the opposite is gonna happenelsewhere. So hebfeels the only decision that can actually carry weight is to destroy the entire multiverse. He gets so close that batman --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RetuenOfDevsman 04/09/24 8:26:17 AM #44: |
orangefire25 posted...
Rick and morty really started the trend back in 13'If you ignore Mostly Harmless and the prior couple decades in comic books, sure. --- There's a difference between canon and not-stupid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RetuenOfDevsman 04/09/24 8:29:28 AM #45: |
Sufferedphoenix posted...
Pretty sure it was common in DC media for a lot longer. One of their best animated movies imo is about the multiverse. It's called crisis on infinite earth's.That was actually the rare exception where it worked. Mostly because they kept it at two and made them different in clearly defined ways. But no, he doesn't --- There's a difference between canon and not-stupid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoenix 04/09/24 8:31:37 AM #46: |
RetuenOfDevsman posted...
That was actually the rare exception where it worked. Mostly because they kept it at two and made them different in clearly defined ways. He --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RetuenOfDevsman 04/09/24 8:37:56 AM #47: |
Sufferedphoenix posted...
HeNow, the --- There's a difference between canon and not-stupid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoenix 04/09/24 8:39:30 AM #48: |
RetuenOfDevsman posted...
Now, the --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RetuenOfDevsman 04/09/24 8:43:21 AM #49: |
Sufferedphoenix posted...
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Sufferedphoenix 04/09/24 8:50:44 AM #50: |
RetuenOfDevsman posted...
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