Poll of the Day > Lmaooo we can't post about politics here anymore

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streamofthesky posted...

That RFK Jr. topic that was created 6 fucking days before the dumb fuck announcement is closed and TC is "not an active member".

That just sets a terrible precedent...

Yeah you can't even post about current events lol

streamofthesky posted...

That RFK Jr. topic that was created 6 f***ing days before the dumb f*** announcement is closed and TC is "not an active member".

To be fair, I don't recognize the user and I can't think of any other active posts they have, so there's a considerable chance that the TC being banhammered is unrelated to the topic being closed.

i was about to post in the Live Nation/Ticketmaster topic that I think treating politics like team sports is the thing thats really banned, but apparently I was wrong because that topic was deleted. It wasnt even really political (at least not inherently, Im sure people could have made a political discussion out of it but you could say that about anything)

They definitely want people to leave this site, the userbase as a whole is at least 3x the age they are treating us right now

Like I tried to say in the other topic. Few things are not political. It is a far too wide a concept to really be used as the foundation of any kind of rule.

Damn_Underscore posted...

i was about to post in the Live Nation/Ticketmaster topic that I think treating politics like team sports is the thing thats really banned, but apparently I was wrong because that topic was deleted. It wasnt even really political (at least not inherently, Im sure people could have made a political discussion out of it but you could say that about anything)

They definitely want people to leave this site, the userbase as a whole is at least 3x the age they are treating us right now

I tried out a benign topic that pretty much every consumer would agree with and it still got removed. They just want to kill the site.

adjl posted...

To be fair, I don't recognize the user and I can't think of any other active posts they have, so there's a considerable chance that the TC being banhammered is unrelated to the topic being closed.

Yeah, I get the feeling that that TC was another alt from the Devil_May_Cry guy.

Yellow posted...

*30 year old weirdo, thank you

Also why would I post on Reddit? The whole point of the site is a weird game to get as many upvotes as you can, there's no point in remembering the names of anyone, they might as well not even be real people, and the site itself breaks if you have a conversation for more than 10 replies. If you're having a normal conversation with someone, you don't just get downvotes and then silence for saying something stupid/controversial. It feels bad. Imagine talking to your friends, and out of nowhere you say something, they all just stare at you silently, give you a. No, they reply to you like a normal interaction.

But now this place has become North Korea, so idk. Oops, a political post...

I don't know why people try and characterize reddit this way. Its not 100% wrong if you're trying to go to some cesspool like r/gaming looking for a genuine sense of community but that's obviously the wrong way to use the site. Reddit is often very useful if you're looking for information about stuff and if you want a community then small subs function normally.

I got sick of reading the reddit front page every day so I made an account and only selected a few subreddits to view, mostly sports

Amazing decision btw, I recommend doing that even if you dont post on reddit very much

That just shows you the tension and division in this country. Its unlike any we've ever seen. I think we're doomed.

Damn_Underscore posted...

I got sick of reading the reddit front page every day so I made an account and only selected a few subreddits to view, mostly sports

Amazing decision btw, I recommend doing that even if you dont post on reddit very much

Same.

Fantastic, maybe I won't get banned as often.

Damn_Underscore posted...

I got sick of reading the reddit front page every day so I made an account and only selected a few subreddits to view, mostly sports

Amazing decision btw, I recommend doing that even if you dont post on reddit very much

At no point have I ever even considered reading Reddit's front page. If I'm on Reddit, it's for a specific sub, not a broad overview of the site. The site as a whole is just too big for a broad overview.

That new admin seems like a dolt. 2 active posts, that one and the other topic linked inside. Guess he doesnt care to engage with the loyal users of this site much.

They should just close the boards tomorrow. Why do they care anymore

Can I rejoin the discord now that gfaqs is basically dead <.<

adjl posted...

At no point have I ever even considered reading Reddit's front page. If I'm on Reddit, it's for a specific sub, not a broad overview of the site. The site as a whole is just too big for a broad overview

This is more or less what I always say to people who complain that Reddit is terrible.

Obviously, if you're going to the front page, letting the site show you random "hot topics", or otherwise not curating your experience at all it's going to be 100% crap.

But if you actively seek out specific subreddits, you can find a ton of them that are either relatively tame or outright polite, where people have interesting and civil conversations, with minimal shitposting and trolling.

There are definitely subreddits that enforce draconian levels of groupthink or that downvote the hell out of anything resembling individual thought, and there are definitely subreddits that are like an overflowing river of digital diarrhea, but you can find a lot of great communities if you look hard enough.

Reddit's honestly one of the better social media sites right now, as long as you use it right.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

This is more or less what I always say to people who complain that Reddit is terrible.

Oh, I still dislike the site for being a horrible format. Its fundamental design means that threads don't flow like public discussions where people add to the conversation of posts that have come before. They instead end up fragmented into a bunch of sub-discussions (which themselves get fragmented into a bunch of sub-discussions) such that it's largely impossible to follow any single conversational flow. It's like being at a party and bouncing between groups that are talking about different things, except those different things are all actually pretty similar and belong to a single overarching topic but nobody can seem to get together and have the discussions as a larger group so everyone hears everything.

But all the "eww it's an echo chamber" critiques are indeed more a matter of trying to jump into the larger circle jerks. You can find perfectly civil, helpful discussion if you stick to smaller communities that you select on that basis.

MrMelodramatic posted...

Can I rejoin the discord now that gfaqs is basically dead <.<

Lmao of course I'll PM you the link

Overall, the main feedback weve received is that the decision to lock the Current Events board and generally prohibit explicitly political topics elsewhere is unpopular amongst a large percentage of commenters. I dont want to duck or run from that takeaway - this is something Fandom discussed and anticipated before making these changes. Ultimately, we will be standing by this decision because doing so aligns with how we operate other parts of our platform, and how we want GameFAQs to be positioned in broad gaming discourse.

Admin came out and admitted feedback's useless. Shocking!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/11-team-gamefaqs/80748677

it's true

all he did was piss everyone off more lmao

Hello PotD

You mean the p in potd doesn't stand for politics

since I don't care about the people of CE, I get to just lazy post Vaush videos over there

i saw your reddit post on the gamefaqs sub got deleted btw lol

which I guess is fair because it's run by mods and claims to use the same rules as this site

agesboy posted...

i saw your reddit post on the gamefaqs sub got deleted btw lol

which I guess is fair because it's run by mods and claims to use the same rules as this site

I can stil see it: https://redd.it/1c4sdqf

Maybe I'm ... shadowbanned?

why is it blurry

https://imgur.com/a/bPy7lyl

https://i.imgur.com/YXYyEeH.png

that's what I see when I click on the link, so probably

ConfusedTorchic posted...

why is it blurry

https://imgur.com/a/bPy7lyl

it's probably trying to show you a "view this in the app" thing at the bottom but the formatting broke lol

well dang, when mods remove a topic on reddit it doesn't inform the user who still has access to it

Is this one banned? It has the same symbol beside it but I thought that was related to tagging

https://redd.it/1c47xus

yeah, it's [removed]

wtf

agesboy posted...

Overall, the main feedback weve received is that the decision to lock the Current Events board and generally prohibit explicitly political topics elsewhere is unpopular amongst a large percentage of commenters. I dont want to duck or run from that takeaway - this is something Fandom discussed and anticipated before making these changes. Ultimately, we will be standing by this decision because doing so aligns with how we operate other parts of our platform, and how we want GameFAQs to be positioned in broad gaming discourse.

Admin came out and admitted feedback's useless. Shocking!

lol

"We knew this would be unpopular and everyone would bitch, but we made up our minds anyways."

So why even the facade of the feedback? Even if they were never going to change, you don't, you know, come out and admit it. lol who hired these guys?

Honestly, I'm expecting this won't even change that much for most social boards in the long run, gradual death of CE aside. For the first few weeks there'll be efforts to close "political" topics, and particularly butthurt posters may be able to get rid of posts/topics they don't like by marking them as political, but long-term I doubt it'll be worth mods' time to actively police boards where nobody has any problems and stamp out political discussions and we can probably just keep posting as normal. It certainly wouldn't be the first time that official policies don't exactly amount to much (like committing to removing problematic ads), and while I expect there'll be a concerted effort to keep up appearances in the early days, I doubt it'll last.

adjl posted...

Honestly, I'm expecting this won't even change that much for most social boards in the long run, gradual death of CE aside. For the first few weeks there'll be efforts to close "political" topics, and particularly butthurt posters may be able to get rid of posts/topics they don't like by marking them as political, but long-term I doubt it'll be worth mods' time to actively police boards where nobody has any problems and stamp out political discussions and we can probably just keep posting as normal. It certainly wouldn't be the first time that official policies don't exactly amount to much (like committing to removing problematic ads), and while I expect there'll be a concerted effort to keep up appearances in the early days, I doubt it'll last.

That is what I figure. It seems like some corporate wide policy that is being foolishly applied to Gamefaqs. It may make sense on some of thier wikias and the like, but on Gamefaqs social boards, it doesn't make much sense. Especially, since I feel like at this point, since the user base has dwindled to just the most die hard, trolling and flaming are just much less of a thing (at least to the extreme ends), so there is much less need to manage the discussion compared to something a little bigger that could easily get out of hand. We are just one big happy family here :)

Someone will just make a CE 2.0 community board or whatever. Probably wont have the same effect.

agesboy posted...

Admin came out and admitted feedback's useless. Shocking!

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

"We knew this would be unpopular and everyone would bitch, but we made up our minds anyways."

So why even the facade of the feedback? Even if they were never going to change, you don't, you know, come out and admit it. lol who hired these guys?

Let's be honest, "We know this is unpopular, but we're going to do it anyway and just ignore all negative feedback until you all lose interest" has been official GameFAQs policy for like 20 years now.

Nearly every major change was followed by people pointing out why it was a terrible idea and how much they hated it, with the official response generally being "Suck it up or fuck off, we don't care."

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Nearly every major change

raising the karma limit on CE (which people on CE were largely supportive of), mentions, youtube/twitter/imgur/etc embedding, the shift to https, an actual fucking functioning profanity filter instead of having to asterisk yourself out in specific ways, the optional multi-paged FAQ format (it doesn't work everywhere, but it's way better for some guide writers and types of guides), block feature, flairs and flair filtering, better quoting, signatures changed to being live (I got a sigwipe back in the day because they changed the rules and then deleted years of old posts...), and probably some more stuff are all things that happened under sballen in the past decade or so that are just straight up good things. since he's stepped down a year ago, literally all that has happened is the removal of the politics board and now this shit

the only thing I can remember that got massive backlash and is still poorly received is the revamped moderation system (doesn't affect me, but it's still dumb to not have multiple eyes look over a moderation). sballen admits he could have done more (especially more contests dude) but he did listen to feedback and implement ideas or rollback changes based on it

meanwhile I suspect fandom's trying to ship of theseus us into a primarily younger, more monetizable demographic because they just don't like gamefaqs like users do

we also got post editing under allen

moreover, allen actually did listen to feedback and change things based on that

remember the last ui update removing left of post info?

and how the feedback from that caused it to come back?

or when we got the lame ass "breadcrumb" style navigation, and how quickly user feedback prompted them to return the buttons?

BoomerKuwanger posted...

Are people really that mad about the changes themselves or is it more the perception of new ownership trying to meddle in something that isn't really "theirs"? None of it seems that bad to me, other than the fact they should've quarantined the politics board to begin with instead of doing it to CE, though I can't deny that's a big change.

I just think if the site was still run by an "insider" and still had 10k active board users at a given time and similar changes were made, the reaction would be a lot different, but now everyone is just seeing it as doom and gloom

Yes people are mad about CE being set to private and many of their community boards being effectively killed. CE is now being slowly suffocated like LUE and the admins are pretending that's not the goal. They also said it was our fault essentially for being too toxic for Fandom or whatever. It's not just site changes, they're simultaneously telling us we don't belong here while acting like they haven't done anything to harm us.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7318ece8.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/caedb2a4.jpg

Doe posted...

They also said it was our fault essentially for being too toxic for Fandom or whatever.

the worst part is, the people who were behind all the harassment, doxxing, and death threats that got the politics board shut down and now CE privated (it's a tiny subreddit of disgruntled users mad at mods about being banned) got exactly what they wanted. they were literally aiming for this outcome from the beginning

wait does this mean we can't post any rage against the machine in the music threads anymore

You can, but you have to include a comment on being angry at your toaster to make it clear that the machine is not metaphorical.

adjl posted...

You can, but you have to include a comment on being angry at your toaster to make it clear that the machine is not metaphorical.

Microwave: Please insert food
Me: FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!!!

Dikitain posted...

Microwave: Please insert food
Me: FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!!!

There you go. Rage against that machine.

adjl posted...

There you go. Rage against that machine.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8b46eda6.jpg

adjl posted...

Honestly, I'm expecting this won't even change that much for most social boards in the long run, gradual death of CE aside. For the first few weeks there'll be efforts to close "political" topics, and particularly butthurt posters may be able to get rid of posts/topics they don't like by marking them as political, but long-term I doubt it'll be worth mods' time to actively police boards where nobody has any problems and stamp out political discussions and we can probably just keep posting as normal. It certainly wouldn't be the first time that official policies don't exactly amount to much (like committing to removing problematic ads), and while I expect there'll be a concerted effort to keep up appearances in the early days, I doubt it'll last.

And, of course, there will be the major question (thus far unanswered by the powers that be) of what, specifically, constitutes "political" (and, therefore, banned) discussion?

If Justin Trudeau comes to my home town and I write about it, is that political? If there's a protest against him and I write about that without editorializing, is that political? If there's a mass shooting and we write about that, is that political? If no, what happens when people start discussing the causes and the discussion drifts (as it invariably will) to gun laws and mental health treatment, where is the line where it becomes political? If the latest Marvel movie comes out and a historically white character is cast as a person of colour, is posting news of that political? Is discussing it political? If there's a protest that draws a police response, is posting support/condemnation of the police actions political?

This is one of the many, many reasons why this move is so dumb. "Politics" is this massive, roiling grey area that is ill-defined, with no clear boundaries. If you tasked me with banning "political" speech on a forum like this, I would respond that unless you key in your definition a lot more tightly, a ban of that nature is borderline unenforceable.

darkknight109 posted...

And, of course, there will be the major question (thus far unanswered by the powers that be) of what, specifically, constitutes "political" (and, therefore, banned) discussion?

If Justin Trudeau comes to my home town and I write about it, is that political? If there's a protest against him and I write about that without editorializing, is that political? If there's a mass shooting and we write about that, is that political? If no, what happens when people start discussing the causes and the discussion drifts (as it invariably will) to gun laws and mental health treatment, where is the line where it becomes political? If the latest Marvel movie comes out and a historically white character is cast as a person of colour, is posting news of that political? Is discussing it political? If there's a protest that draws a police response, is posting support/condemnation of the police actions political?

This is one of the many, many reasons why this move is so dumb. "Politics" is this massive, roiling grey area that is ill-defined, with no clear boundaries. If you tasked me with banning "political" speech on a forum like this, I would respond that unless you key in your definition a lot more tightly, a ban of that nature is borderline unenforceable.

ya, I asked on Ask the Mods about metacommentary and they haven't responded yet

Lokarin posted...

ya, I asked on Ask the Mods about metacommentary and they haven't responded yet

And they probably wont ever

Can we post about an HOA having a vote to raise fees for a new gazebo?