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LordFarquad1312
04/18/24 9:09:28 PM
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https://youtu.be/Of948mma0XE?t=1353

My dude misrepresents Sombron's motivation while putting the one and only cutscene in the game where he explains his motivations in the background.

Also, not considering Zephia as a major antagonist is just criminal.

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DrizztLink
04/18/24 9:10:25 PM
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you bought an engage didn't you

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LordFarquad1312
04/19/24 9:47:58 AM
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Y'all gun do Engage dirty till the end, huh?

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Compsognathus
04/19/24 9:51:25 AM
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Why the fuck are you watching a Mangs video? Find FEtubers who don't commit sexual assault.

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Murphiroth
04/19/24 9:53:08 AM
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You hesitate to take people who don't like Engage seriously due to one dumb sex pest shithead's take?

That's fuckin' weird man.
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Enclave
04/19/24 9:53:52 AM
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Who the fuck is Mangs? What the fuck is Engage? What's a FEtuber? This is all very weird.

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Compsognathus
04/19/24 9:55:55 AM
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Enclave posted...
Who the fuck is Mangs? What the fuck is Engage? What's a FEtuber? This is all very weird.
Mangs is a Fire Emblem YouTube (or FEtuber for short). Fire Emblem Engage is a Fire Emblem Engage. Mangs committed sexual assault on a FE cosplayer a few years back. He is a complete piece of shit.

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Enclave
04/19/24 9:59:18 AM
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Thanks, stupid Fire Emblem stuff and a piece of shit YouTuber, got it.

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nocturnal_traveler
04/19/24 9:59:59 AM
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Enclave posted...
Who the fuck is Mangs? What the fuck is Engage? What's a FEtuber? This is all very weird.
Mangs is a skin disease that's usually associated with dogs. Engage is a failed gaming/mobile device hybrid people like to shit on.

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Deej
04/19/24 10:01:03 AM
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Sombron had a motivation? o_o

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
04/19/24 10:01:06 AM
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Why are Engage fans so sensitive to criticism? I've never seen a game in the FE franchise where its fans get so upset and call you a hater who just hates the game if you criticize its writing.

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Enclave
04/19/24 10:03:51 AM
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nocturnal_traveler posted...
Mangs is a skin disease that's usually associated with dogs.

You're thinking of mange.

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Compsognathus
04/19/24 10:09:41 AM
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Enclave posted...
You're thinking of mange.
Eh...they are close enough.

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_Raich_
04/19/24 10:11:45 AM
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god damn, bruh this is like the second or third time i've gotten into a youtuber only to find out later they got up in some sexpest shit years before i found them. I guess I shouldn't be that surprised, I kinda got a sus vibe from his chat and mod team during streams

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Garioshi
04/19/24 10:12:21 AM
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Engage does not have a story to criticize

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LordFarquad1312
04/19/24 11:50:37 AM
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Compsognathus posted...
Why the fuck are you watching a Mangs video? Find FEtubers who don't commit sexual assault.
Bruh, I don't go looking into the criminal history of the people who make the videos that show up on my timeline. Thanks for letting me know tho.

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LordFarquad1312
04/19/24 11:51:47 AM
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Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
Why are Engage fans so sensitive to criticism? I've never seen a game in the FE franchise where its fans get so upset and call you a hater who just hates the game if you criticize its writing.
In this case, because he demonstrated he can't even pay attention for the 2 minutes in the game relevant to his argument.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
04/19/24 11:57:49 AM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
In this case, because he demonstrated he can't even pay attention for the 2 minutes in the game relevant to his argument.
Your topic title was telling, you compared anyone who criticizes Engage to trash like Mangs.

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Murphiroth
04/19/24 12:53:20 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
In this case, because he demonstrated he can't even pay attention for the 2 minutes in the game relevant to his argument.

Cool, why are you conflating that with everyone who criticizes Engage?
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LordFarquad1312
04/19/24 9:24:21 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Cool, why are you conflating that with everyone who criticizes Engage?
Cause like 80% of people's criticism is "Story bad" and when asked to explain why they think is bad they just talk in circles.

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Tyranthraxus
04/19/24 9:25:41 PM
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Enclave posted...
You're thinking of mange.
Woooosh

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pazzy
04/19/24 9:50:50 PM
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Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
Your topic title was telling, you compared anyone who criticizes Engage to trash like Mangs.
This. You use Mangs as a counterargument for why you hesitate to take Engage criticism seriously when mangs isn't someone you should take seriously at all.

Idk, I had a really hard time finding engage's story interesting. It felt very uninspired and I barely remember it.
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refmon
04/19/24 9:53:58 PM
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No way TC unironically enjoys Engages story

I guess someone has to. Like those Transformer movies.

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LordFarquad1312
04/19/24 9:57:07 PM
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refmon posted...
No way TC unironically enjoys Engages story

I guess someone has to. Like those Transformer movies.
Not like it's a masterpiece. But it ain't Fates either.

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Tyranthraxus
04/19/24 9:59:29 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Not like it's a masterpiece. But it ain't Fates either.

Fates is like the lowest bar. It's like if you took the ending to mass effect 3 and made a whole game out of it. Pong has a better story than Fates.

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DocileOrangeCup
04/19/24 10:00:44 PM
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Engage should be limited to 1 at the very least

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dave_is_slick
04/19/24 10:01:41 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Y'all gun do Engage dirty till the end, huh?
Absolutely, it was dog shit.

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Tyranthraxus
04/19/24 10:02:45 PM
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Not having new game+ completely ruined it for me TBH

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Umbreon
04/19/24 10:08:25 PM
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Honestly the whole premise of Engage was a tough sell for me. It just looked like an excuse to shill the various lords of the game. Then people started comparing the story quality to Fates which... did not inspire confidence.

The gameplay is apparently on point, but I feel like Three Houses spoiled me on what I expect from a story.

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Compsognathus
04/19/24 10:15:05 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Honestly the whole premise of Engage was a tough sell for me. It just looked like an excuse to shill the various lords of the game. Then people started comparing the story quality to Fates which... did not inspire confidence.

The gameplay is apparently on point, but I feel like Three Houses spoiled me on what I expect from a story.
The gameplay was excellent. The story is just very Saturday morning cartoon. I did my fair share of eye-rolling through it but it definitely didn't get in my way of enjoying the game itself.

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Tmaster148
04/19/24 10:19:09 PM
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Engage's story was pretty bland and forgettable. Fates may not have good writting, but it at least had some memorable moments.

Also Engage had a problem where it just kind of dragged on the story near the end and I know I lost a lot of drive to finish the game at one point.

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SugarFlakes
04/19/24 10:25:17 PM
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Engage is my third favorite FE game. Love it to death.

The story is weak imo. Its not Fates level, but it couldve been better. Its not terriblejust very simple. Barebones just about.

Gameplay though? One of the best.

Edit: Ive stopped watching Mangs years ago since that scandal. I dont give a damn about what he thinks.

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R_Jackal
04/19/24 10:31:52 PM
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Engage was just a shot at being the Monster Hunter Generations of Fire Emblem games. It just didn't work out as well.

The story is a dumpster fire, but the gameplay is def some of the best in modern FE titles.
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Calwings
04/19/24 10:41:37 PM
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SugarFlakes posted...
Engage is my third favorite FE game. Love it to death.

The story is weak imo. Its not Fates level, but it couldve been better. Its not terriblejust very simple. Barebones just about.

Gameplay though? One of the best.

I agree with this. Engage is my #3 as well and it's almost entirely for the incredible gameplay. I will say though, Engage has a few moments where the integration of gameplay and story together (in particular, chapter 11's desperate escape sequence and chapter 22 when you need to retrieve and purify all of the rings) really shines and makes the gameplay even better.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
04/19/24 10:48:02 PM
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Calwings posted...
I agree with this. Engage is my #3 as well and it's almost entirely for the incredible gameplay. I will say though, Engage has a few moments where the integration of gameplay and story together (in particular, chapter 11's desperate escape sequence and chapter 22 when you need to retrieve and purify all of the rings) really shines and makes the gameplay even better.
Oh god no, Engage ch22 is straight up ass on higher difficulties, legitimately one of the worst maps in the franchise. Just a big brawl routing Engage late game enemies and nearly all the actually useful Emblems are on the back half of the map, and you have to rout while dealing with reinforcements.

Umbreon posted...
Honestly the whole premise of Engage was a tough sell for me. It just looked like an excuse to shill the various lords of the game.

Engage tries hard to bait players into playing Heroes, the bond ring system is a psychological warmup for rolling gachas and the game has a number of tie-ins with Heroes to get bonus stuff, not to mention the game advertising its dlc before it even came out.

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Deej
04/19/24 10:50:20 PM
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Calwings posted...
I agree with this. Engage is my #3 as well and it's almost entirely for the incredible gameplay. I will say though, Engage has a few moments where the integration of gameplay and story together (in particular, chapter 11's desperate escape sequence and chapter 22 when you need to retrieve and purify all of the rings) really shines and makes the gameplay even better.
Tbh I thought Chapter 22 was the worst thing I've ever been subjected to in a Fire Emblem game

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Calwings
04/19/24 11:22:15 PM
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Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
Oh god no, Engage ch22 is straight up ass on higher difficulties, legitimately one of the worst maps in the franchise. Just a big brawl routing Engage late game enemies and nearly all the actually useful Emblems are on the back half of the map, and you have to rout while dealing with reinforcements.

Deej posted...
Tbh I thought Chapter 22 was the worst thing I've ever been subjected to in a Fire Emblem game

I'm going to disagree and say that I liked that chapter. The whole "just a big brawl" aspect with the simplicity of little to no emblem ring usage after being accustomed to them for so long felt like a challenge, but not an extremely annoying one IMO. Plus, it helps really sell the desperate situation your characters are in at that point in the story, hence why I praised it under the context of gameplay and story integration. Then again, I've never played the game on Maddening (Hard is more than enough for me) so maybe it really is that bad and unbalanced on the highest difficulty and I just don't know it.

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dotsdfe
04/19/24 11:27:13 PM
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_Raich_ posted...
god damn, bruh this is like the second or third time i've gotten into a youtuber only to find out later they got up in some sexpest shit years before i found them. I guess I shouldn't be that surprised, I kinda got a sus vibe from his chat and mod team during streams

For what it's worth, a huge chunk of the FE community refuses to engage with Mangs in any way. I know a lot of bigger FE creators reasonably well, and a ton of them refuse to engage with Mangs at all.

It's one of those unspoken rules of the whole community. There are a lot of great FE people out there, just...not him.

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SugarFlakes
04/19/24 11:34:53 PM
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Yeah, I liked Chpt 22 too. Its difficult yeah but I still liked it. I didnt think it was that bad to be considered one of the worst maps in the franchise either

What would I consider to be one of my least favorite maps? Itd probably be from Awakening or Fates but I havent played them in so long I barely remember them.

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Umbreon
04/19/24 11:39:17 PM
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Fuga's Wild Ride if you're talking about hated Fates maps. The kitsune map also sucks.

Awakening is pretty forgettable map wise. Though that world tree map or whatever is an annoying mission in lunatic.

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Senta
04/19/24 11:39:29 PM
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Ya know, I never knew all this stuff about Mangs. Then again, I've never followed him or anything, but I watch a lot of his Advanced Wars videos since they pop up in my feed.

That's a shame.

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Deej
04/19/24 11:43:51 PM
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Calwings posted...
I'm going to disagree and say that I liked that chapter. The whole "just a big brawl" aspect with the simplicity of little to no emblem ring usage after being accustomed to them for so long felt like a challenge, but not an extremely annoying one IMO. Plus, it helps really sell the desperate situation your characters are in at that point in the story, hence why I praised it under the context of gameplay and story integration. Then again, I've never played the game on Maddening (Hard is more than enough for me) so maybe it really is that bad and unbalanced on the highest difficulty and I just don't know it.
If you imagine for a moment how bad the map could possibly be on Maddening, the reality is probably even worse lmao
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