Current Events > Pro-Palestine protesters arrested en masse at Columbia University

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NoMeLx22x posted...

This is not happening on any sort of level where you can say "many participants" and the organizers of these events immediately condemn anyone that is attempting to hijack these protests to be antisemitic.

You think it's "many supporters" because bad faith actors (or the media) will take one horrible sign or video of an individual or small group saying horrible things, and extrapolate that that's what the whole protest is about. Which it's not. You're falling for propaganda to try to lump all of these protesters in with a group of shitty people.

It's true that it's important to not let what the minority is doing influence us on the overall point of the protest. That's something we know and should always internalize.
It doesn't negate the fact that most normies don't have this type of context though, and it's just a risk of having any large protest. Social media is cancerous for movements that don't have good messaging principal from established leaders.

NoMeLx22x posted...

This is not happening on any sort of level where you can say "many participants" and the organizers of these events immediately condemn anyone that is attempting to hijack these protests to be antisemitic.

A ton of SJP chapters were posting unhinged shit immediately following oct 7. Its not hard to find.

gu-gohan posted...

And that is exactly what I meant in my previous post. It's one thing - and totally legit and rightful! - to pray for Palestine civilians and condemn what Netanyahu and his regime is doing in Gaza. But it's not okay to delegitimize the terrorism on oct 7, to legitimize Hamas, or generally spread hate of Jews at the same time. But this stance can be seen from many participants of these pro-Palestine protest movements, unfortunately. I find that worrying.

No one's delegitimizing anything. People simply have an issue with the disproportionate violence and collective punishment.

Anti-Biden pro-Palestine non voters, if you're upset with Biden then continue that fight by voting for him against Trump. You won't have the opportunity to protest your grievances under a second Trump administration let alone have your concerns in the middle east addressed.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

You won't have the opportunity to protest your grievances under a second Trump administration let alone have your concerns in the middle east addressed.

They're literally getting arrested for attempting to protest about this. That's what the topic title is. Your post is effectively a thread derailment attempt given how CE goes in circles about voting when it's brought up and that it did not come up in the first 50 posts of the topic.

Prismsblade posted...

Surprised how silent the media has been on pro Palestine protest nationwide. Even more for people being arrested for protesting.

Its generally concerning to me how anti Palestine our government is.

They haven't been silent at all. They've been adversarial to them entirely. They're covering them the same way they covered the George Floyd protests, which were like 98% peaceful, by showing the violence and radical language and accounts of students who are against the protests, rather than those for the protests.

Shadow_Don posted...

A ton of SJP chapters were posting unhinged shit immediately following oct 7. Its not hard to find.

Assuming this is true, and just letting you post "a ton" without any sort of actual number, that doesn't change the fact that that's still one person who's posting their opinion on the account. It doesn't mean that everyone who is apart of the group endorses what that particular person posted.

Trying to tie a few unhinged posts to an entire fucking movement is certainly trying to poison the well.

NoMeLx22x posted...

Assuming this is true, and just letting you post "a ton" without any sort of actual number, that doesn't change the fact that that's still one person who's posting their opinion on the account. It doesn't mean that everyone who is apart of the group endorses what that particular person posted.

Trying to tie a few unhinged posts to an entire fucking movement is certainly trying to poison the well.

The only thing that doesn't have me 100% doomer pilled on SJP is probably that most members are just good intentioned students that see it as group supporting Palestine and they arent really paying attention to the stuff its leaders say.

Its their official social media accounts posting the pro hamas trash so I imagine its their leadership doing it.

Shadow_Don posted...

The only thing that doesn't have me 100% doomer pilled on SJP is probably that most members are just good intentioned students that see it as group supporting Palestine and they arent really paying attention to the stuff its leaders say.

Its their official social media accounts posting the pro hamas trash so I imagine its their leadership doing it.

Says the one posting claims without evidence. Your claims remind me of all those right wing media pundits accusing BLM leadership of supporting riots despite FBI stats demonstrating that the vast majority of BLM protests are peaceful.

Fenriswolf posted...

Says the one posting claims without evidence.

Just google images sjp + hamas

It's right there lmfao.

It's not fucking hard or complicated to criticize Israel and Netanyahu without invoking support of hamas. Im sorry that SJP wasn't able to do that.

This was the message SJP posted on their social media account at my university. While students were on the phone desperately trying to get in touch with relatives to see if they were alive.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/84c03e39.jpg

In a best case scenario, mass arrests are dangerous to those being arrested. Even young people have medical conditions and those zip ties can be too tight. Palestinians have been reporting amputations resulting from zip ties. ( In Chicago no amputations have been reported but emphatically they were too tight.)

And there is always someone who is unable to reach his family for a week.

And
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68851168
Ilhan Omar's daughter suspended

Suspended.

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1782910227056071069

Just not surprising anymore. They lie because the truth is plainly against them.

Is this the new cement milkshake?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a8e20be2.jpg

Is this Russia or the US.

I can't say it's a good idea, but the protesters have now formally issued demands to the university in exchange for them leaving, and the demands have now spread to beyond just the Israel Gaza conflict:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68886727

Since last week, protesters at Columbia - partly organised by a group called Columbia University Apartheid Divest (CUAD) - have called on the university to fully divest its finances, including its endowment, from companies and institutions it claims profit from Israel's "occupation" of Palestinians.

A committee that advises the university on socially responsible investing rejected these demands earlier this year, saying there was a lack of consensus in the Columbia community over the issue.

CUAD also calls on the university to cut links with Israeli institutions such as Tel Aviv University, to formally call for a ceasefire in Gaza, to end policing on campus and to "sever ties" with New York police.

In the wake of last week's arrests, another demand was added: amnesty for protesters who are facing disciplinary action from the university. Some have lost their meal plans and housing, forcing them to find alternative accommodation.

This is always the default response to challenges to the status quo. Years/decades from now, when the genocide is completed/admitted and these protesters are repressed as they were in the 60s, everyone will be crawling all over themselves to regard the protesters as heroes and pretend they were on their side. The Universities will apologize and put up plaques commemorating all this.

But no lessons will be learned, it'll happen again in response to the next crime people can't accept. Because these institutions profit from war and expansion and the people who have the ear of University presidents and can threaten them are always on the side of whatever current evil is happening.

Hopefully they arrest all the detractors and other antiSemites.

https://twitter.com/mxmimosa/status/1783201990278869414

CyricZ posted...

https://twitter.com/mxmimosa/status/1783201990278869414

We are absolutely going to end up with another Kent State here.

Look how quickly it became violent the moment cops got involved.

https://twitter.com/ProfClealand/status/1783269850997018813

Ronaldo posted...

I've seen a lot of pro-hamas chants and signs. I hope it's the minority...

I don't know what the percentage is, but a lot of the ones who engage in this insist that the 10/7 massacre is fake news.

s0nicfan posted...

Since last week, protesters at Columbia - partly organised by a group called Columbia University Apartheid Divest (CUAD) - have called on the university to fully divest its finances, including its endowment, from companies and institutions it claims profit from Israel's "occupation" of Palestinians.

Why is occupation in quotation marks?

RndmNmber1 posted...

Why is occupation in quotation marks?

Because he supports it.

Hyena_Of_Ice posted...

I don't know what the percentage is, but a lot of the ones who engage in this insist that the 10/7 massacre is fake news.

What a trash ass post.

"I don't know the percentage, but it's certainly a lot, just trust me"

"The source for this info? I made it the fuck up"

s0nicfan posted...

I can't say it's a good idea, but the protesters have now formally issued demands to the university in exchange for them leaving, and the demands have now spread to beyond just the Israel Gaza conflict:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68886727

Are there multiple groups in charge, giving demands at Columbia?

Seems Columbia students for Palestine have given some as well

https://twitter.com/afalkhatib/status/1783341589693415467?t=ji6xHcgw3PbZx7Pt5mwiJQ&s=19

Their demands are of no consequence to the university, and they will not be students much longer. I'm not disagreeing with their stance, but it is completely hopeless. Only those Google workers who were recently fired have a greater misunderstanding of their situation.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/columbia-university-inspires-national-protest-wave-swift-response-by-authorities-2024-04-25/

NEW YORK, April 25 (Reuters) - Renewed clashes between police and students opposed to Israel's war in Gaza broke out on Thursday, raising questions about forceful methods being used to shut down protests that have intensified since mass arrests at Columbia University last week.
Over the past two days, law enforcement at the behest of college administrators have deployed Tasers and tear gas against students protesters at Atlanta's Emory University, activists say, while officers clad in riot gear and mounted on horseback have swept away demonstrations at the University of Texas in Austin.
Prosecutors on Thursday dropped charges against 46 of the 60 people taken into custody at the University of Texas, citing "deficiencies in the probable cause affidavits."
At Columbia, the epicenter of the U.S. protest movement, university officials are locked in a stalemate with students over the removal of a tent encampment set up two weeks ago as a protest against the Israeli offensive.
The administration, which has already allowed an initial deadline for an agreement with students to lapse, has given protesters until Friday to strike a deal.
Other universities appear determined to prevent similar, long-running demonstrations to take root, opting to work with police to shut them down quickly and in some cases, with force.
Overall, nearly 550 arrests have been made in the last week across major U.S. universities in relation to protests over Gaza, according to a Reuters tally. University authorities have said the demonstrations are often unauthorized and called on police to clear them.
At Emory, police detained 28 people on its Atlanta campus, the university said, after protesters began erecting a tent encampment in an attempt to emulate a symbol of vigilance employed by protesters at Columbia and elsewhere.
The local chapter of the activist group Jewish Voice for Peace said officers used tear gas and Tasers to dispense the demonstration and take some protesters into custody. Atlanta police acknowledged using "chemical irritants" but denied using rubber bullets.
Video aired on FOX 5 Atlanta showed a melee breaking out between officers and some protesters, with officers using what appeared to be a stun gun to subdue a person and others wrestling other protesters to the ground and leading them away.
"Our primary goal today was clearing the Quad of a disruptive encampment while holding individuals accountable to the law," Cheryl Elliott, Emory's vice president for public safety, said in a statement.
The Georgia office of the NAACP questioned what it called the "apparent use of excessive force" against people exercising free speech.
"The use of force should only be considered as an absolute last resort and must be proportionate to the threat posed," Georgia NAACP President Griggs said in a letter.
Similar scenarios unfolded on the New Jersey campus of Princeton University where officers swarmed a newly formed encampment, video footage on social media showed.
Boston police earlier forcibly removed a pro-Palestinian encampment set up by Emerson College, arresting more than 100 people, media accounts and police said.
At the University of Southern California, where 93 people were arrested at the Los Angeles campus on Wednesday, administrators canceled the main May 10 graduation ceremony, saying newly required security measures would have placed excessive delays on crowd control.

'ALARMING REPORTS'
Human Rights Watch and the American Civil Liberties Union have condemned the arrest of protesters and urged authorities to respect their free speech rights.
But some Republicans in Congress have accused university administrators of allowing Jewish students to be harassed, putting increasing pressure on schools to tightly control any demonstrations and to block any semi-permanent encampment.
U.S. Education Secretary Miguel Cardona on Thursday said
, opens new tab his department was closely monitoring the protests, including what he called "very alarming reports of antisemitism."
In response, activist groups have strongly denied that the protests are antisemitic. Their aim is to pressure universities from divesting from companies that contribute to the Israeli military actions in Gaza, they say.
Even so, protest leaders have acknowledged that hateful rhetoric has been directed at Jewish students, but insist that people who tried to infiltrate and malign their movement are responsible for any harassment.
Outside Columbia, hundreds of conservative pro-Israel demonstrators staged a counterprotest to the students, marching on the streets circling the campus, waving and draped in Israeli and U.S. flags.
University officials have given protesters until 4 a.m. on Friday to reach an agreement with the university on dismantling dozens of tents set up on the New York City campus in a protest that started a week ago.
The university already tried to shut the protest down by force. On April 18, Columbia President Minouche Shafik took the unusual move of asking police to enter the campus, angering many rights groups, students and faculty.
More than 100 people were arrested and the tents were removed from the main lawn. But within a few days, the encampment was back in place.

Professor at Emory University knocked to the ground by cops.

https://twitter.com/UICProfWatch/status/1783625176887799938

With the media constantly covering base for conservatives, what did they expect?
https://twitter.com/LoganSchiciano/status/1783569410248020251

https://twitter.com/EmpireFiles/status/1783955491040931843