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Billyionaire 04/22/24 2:43:14 PM #1: |
This would provide much needed housing, boost local economies, and in some cases may lessen instances of crime in certain areas.
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Cocytus 04/22/24 2:43:57 PM #2: |
That would be freaky.
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MrToothHasYou 04/22/24 2:46:06 PM #3: |
Similar ideas have been proposed about unused office buildings in the wake of the work from home trend that built up over the pandemic, but Im pretty sure the general consensus is it would be cost-prohibitive to convert buildings designed for commercial use into residential units. The plumbing alone would be insane.
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CADE_FOSTER 04/22/24 2:47:31 PM #5: |
they would just make them expensive luxury apartments plus zoning laws would probably have to be changed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem-man 04/22/24 2:47:55 PM #6: |
It's illegal in various places. For example, some cities don't let you have rooms with no windows. You're obviously going to have that in a mall that's renovated.
Best way is to make it cheap and easy to do the renovations, which requires removing building requirements such as that. --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nekrodev 04/22/24 2:48:23 PM #7: |
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emblem-man 04/22/24 2:48:49 PM #8: |
CADE_FOSTER posted...
they would just make them expensive luxury apartmentsAll new housing is good and helps push down costs of all housing. If you don't give rich people luxury apartments, they're just going to outbid everyone else for the next available set of apartments. Let rich people spend outrageous amounts of money on expensive homes. It opens up other housing for others at a now lower price point. --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoopPotato 04/22/24 2:49:47 PM #9: |
Our future looks like a deployment.
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Prismsblade 04/22/24 2:53:20 PM #10: |
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Its due to low supply vs high demand. The more desirable the location the higher the demand, the higher the demand the higher the cost of housing/rent. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Billyionaire 04/22/24 2:54:17 PM #11: |
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Until the overheated, oversized economy is retracted housing will continue to be unaffordable. In the face of a housing crisis, the only thing to do is to create more of it. --- Bring your own lampshade, somewhere there's a party This one's neverending, can't remember where it started ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem-man 04/22/24 2:57:39 PM #12: |
Billyionaire posted...
Until the overheated, oversized economy is retracted housing will continue to be unaffordable. In the face of a housing crisis, the only thing to do is to create more of it. Build housing https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bad9adef.jpg And rent increases decrease https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/94ceb578.jpg --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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opopopza 04/22/24 3:01:56 PM #13: |
emblem-man posted...
It's illegal in various places. For example, some cities don't let you have rooms with no windows. You're obviously going to have that in a mall that's renovated.I'd imagine not having full bathrooms would be a pretty big issue. --- Can you say David Hasselhoff? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem-man 04/22/24 3:03:11 PM #14: |
opopopza posted...
I'd imagine not having full bathrooms would be a pretty big issue. I'd imagine a renovation would include adding bathrooms, but yes that'd be very expensive to do I'd imagine. But yeah, office and mall renovations are not as simple as some think they are. Partly because some aspects of the renovations would be illegal, and some would just be expensive. --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WarfireX 04/22/24 3:06:29 PM #15: |
TC is making a proposal for something that could work, so of course the CE know it alls have to parrot a bunch of corporate nonsense on cost efficiency even though they are always the first to call other people shills.
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emblem-man 04/22/24 3:07:59 PM #16: |
WarfireX posted...
TC is making a proposal for something that could work, so of course the CE know it alls have to parrot a bunch of corporate nonsense on cost efficiency even though they are always the first to call other people shills.It's literally illegal to have windowless bedrooms in some cities per building regulations. That's not corporate nonsense. The correct response is that cities and states should use their capacity to revisit some of these regulations that effectively reduce the supply of housing and remove the restrictions. We have a housing crisis. We should treat it as one and that means making hard choices. --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 04/22/24 3:10:11 PM #17: |
I think you're underestimating the cost that putting adequate plumbing into each unit would entail in making this plan reasonably work or to serve as an attractive option.
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emblem-man 04/22/24 3:10:24 PM #18: |
For example
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Southernfatman 04/22/24 3:11:38 PM #19: |
Not in my back yard!!!
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CADE_FOSTER 04/22/24 3:14:12 PM #20: |
Southernfatman posted... Not in my back yard!!!yep thats the attitude any place takes ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Psyloshsr 04/22/24 3:21:47 PM #21: |
Yeah windows really need to be a requirement. Not just for the sunlight which is important too. But building design code requires fresh air which in some residential builds is only accomplished through exceptions involving windows. And even that aside, using them as a potential fire escape route should be enough to mandate them.
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emblem-man 04/22/24 3:25:53 PM #22: |
Psyloshsr posted...
Yeah windows really need to be a requirement. Not just for the sunlight which is important too. But building design code requires fresh air which in some residential builds is only accomplished through exceptions involving windows. And even that aside, using them as a potential fire escape route should be enough to mandate them. Many have made the argument that we are so much better at preventing fires these days (sprinkler system), that it's worth revisiting some older regulations that might have been made with fire prevention in mind. This story is about single use stair cases, but it's the same idea https://ggwash.org/view/93257/how-single-stair-apartments-can-improve-fire-safety? Video on why outlawing single stair apartments is bad https://youtu.be/iRdwXQb7CfM?si=LFL0t-51rjRY66Fk --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Psyloshsr 04/22/24 3:33:42 PM #23: |
emblem-man posted...
Many have made the argument that we are so much better at preventing fires these days (sprinkler system), that it's worth revisiting some older regulations that might have been made with fire prevention in mind.Maybe, but it only ever takes one incident or one idiot in an apartment complex. Somebody did "something" in my last building that filled the whole building with smoke. No fire fortunately but a close enough call that I moved out within 3 months. They never even evicted the guy responsible. It's just not a good idea to reduce the number of ways to save your life if something like that happens. --- Sometimes you have to make a stand for your principles if you want to believe in who and what you are-John Lobon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem-man 04/22/24 3:37:53 PM #24: |
Psyloshsr posted...
Maybe, but it only ever takes one incident or one idiot in an apartment complex. Somebody did "something" in my last building that filled the whole building with smoke. No fire fortunately but a close enough call that I moved out within 3 months. They never even evicted the guy responsible. It's just not a good idea to reduce the number of ways to save your life if something like that happens. I would generally agree, but again. We have a housing crisis. Many other countries build homes without these regulations with no large negatives. We should evaluate if the concerns we had decades ago still exist. If they don't, we should remove them, revise them, etc. The video I posted talks about some of this --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xethuminra 04/22/24 3:47:24 PM #25: |
Interesting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 04/22/24 3:49:41 PM #26: |
WarfireX posted...
TC is making a proposal for something that could work, so of course the CE know it alls have to parrot a bunch of corporate nonsense on cost efficiency even though they are always the first to call other people shills. It's not corporate nonsense, it's literal fact. You're asking for the solution to the housing problem to be making dangerous, bathroom-free apartments. Now, if the proposal is to take the PROPERTY these malls are on, have it re-zoned, and use it to create rent controlled apartment buildings, then you have a potential solution. But saying "hey, why don't we take the old abandoned Sears and make it some death trap apartments" is not a great idea. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Homeless_Waifu 04/22/24 3:51:32 PM #27: |
Theres no reason why a living space less than 750 square feet should be more than $1000. Dont care if its a house/has multiple floors or bedrooms, studio apartment and whatnot. Its 1000% bullocks
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Xethuminra 04/22/24 3:53:41 PM #29: |
I think people should be entitled to basic necessities, as part of their right to the pursuit of a greater happiness. Imagine being at risk of dying from dehydration because a hypothetical place charges for water Hold the spit btw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Makeveli_lives 04/22/24 3:53:57 PM #30: |
Let the homeless have abandoned houses and make them renovate it themselves to maintain residency.
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Deegs 04/22/24 3:54:59 PM #31: |
This argument has been made with the old AT&T tower building here in Saint Louis. It would pretty much require gutting the building though and redoing the plumbing, electrical, the floor plans, etc... to the point where it would be cheaper to tear the building down and build a new one. It is a nice idea in concept but in reality it isn't easy to achieve.
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Robot2600 04/22/24 3:57:54 PM #33: |
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we could just build nice place that were more like dorms in the 1980s, 1990s. let residents come and go as they please, just like a dorm. let them lock their own doors, ffs! have different sizes, and some family suites. most would be single-person dorm rooms. anyway, that's a kind of good solution. an easier solution, although not better, it could be implemented today in every major city, is to tape off tent "lots" in unused parking lots, and then run the entire thing like a dorm. --- August 15, 2024: The Day the Internet Died ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem-man 04/22/24 3:58:00 PM #34: |
Deegs posted...
This argument has been made with the old AT&T tower building here in Saint Louis. It would pretty much require gutting the building though and redoing the plumbing, electrical, the floor plans, etc... to the point where it would be cheaper to tear the building down and build a new one. It is a nice idea in concept but in reality it isn't easy to achieve.Single room occupancies with communal bathrooms would be my most "dystopian" idea for places like that. I don't think it's dystopian but I'm sure orders do. Makeveli_lives posted... Let the homeless have abandoned houses and make them renovate it themselves to maintain residency.That sounds horrible --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 04/22/24 3:58:58 PM #35: |
Xethuminra posted...
I think people should be entitled to basic necessities, as part of their right to the pursuit of a greater happiness. That hypothetical place is America. I get a water bill based on my usage every month. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xethuminra 04/22/24 4:01:26 PM #36: |
(observing a total lack of discernment) Compare with: unisex prisons ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xethuminra 04/22/24 4:02:25 PM #37: |
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Azn_Psycho 04/22/24 4:03:16 PM #38: |
It's already being done. Problem is that they are considered luxury suites so it doesn't help with pricing
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emblem-man 04/22/24 4:04:24 PM #39: |
Azn_Psycho posted...
It's already being done. Problem is that they are considered luxury suites so it doesn't help with pricing emblem-man posted... All new housing is good and helps push down costs of all housing. If you don't give rich people luxury apartments, they're just going to outbid everyone else for the next available set of apartments. Let rich people spend outrageous amounts of money on expensive homes. It opens up other housing for others at a now lower price point. --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Psyloshsr 04/22/24 4:04:52 PM #40: |
bigblu89 posted...
That hypothetical place is America.We're not actually pretending America is the only place with water bills are we? --- Sometimes you have to make a stand for your principles if you want to believe in who and what you are-John Lobon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 04/22/24 4:07:37 PM #41: |
Psyloshsr posted...
We're not actually pretending America is the only place with water bills are we? Not at all. But the poster said "Imagine having to pay for a necessity like water?" in a way to compare it to housing being a necessity, and how housing should be free, unaware that water isn't free unless you're catching it as it falls from the sky. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CADE_FOSTER 04/22/24 4:08:32 PM #42: |
water electricity gas trash service pest control shit everything costs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xethuminra 04/22/24 4:08:49 PM #43: |
Water fountains Have a sweet day! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Makeveli_lives 04/22/24 4:10:10 PM #44: |
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Were_Wyrm 04/22/24 4:10:24 PM #45: |
I've seen the idea kicked around of converting them into senior living. The larger store spaces could be converted into communal areas like gyms or activity areas, the smaller stores get converted into living spaces, and the food court area could be used as the dining area.
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bigblu89 04/22/24 4:11:51 PM #46: |
Xethuminra posted...
Water fountains So you're expecting people to leave their places of residence to find a random source of water like we're in some 3rd world country? This has to be a troll job. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CADE_FOSTER 04/22/24 4:11:54 PM #47: |
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Makeveli_lives 04/22/24 4:17:08 PM #48: |
bigblu89 posted...
So you're expecting people to leave their places of residence to find a random source of water like we're in some 3rd world country?Do you not leave your house to get water as is? Tap water is shown to be unhealthy long term. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 04/22/24 4:19:00 PM #50: |
Makeveli_lives posted...
Do you not leave your house to get water as is? Tap water is shown to be unhealthy long term. No. Becasue I drink the water that is filtered through my refrigerator. That I have to pay for. You're making my point for me. The original post I replied to was saying that water was a necessity that people do not pay for, where that cannot be further from the truth. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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