Current Events > Biden Rule Grants Overtime Pay to 4 Million US Workers

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-rule-grants-overtime-pay-170406165.html

I love overtime pay, hard to believe its not a thing for every hourly job.

PowerMan5000000 posted...

I love overtime pay, hard to believe its not a thing for every hourly job.

This rule only affects salaried work. It would have no impact on hourly jobs.

The article also said that this is basically identical to an executive order Obama passed that was shot down in courts, only this one has an even higher salary cap, so odds are this is more of a performative election year thing and less something that will actually stick around once it's been challenged in courts.

scumbag republicans and feckless fascist scotus will kill it

Feels like there must be a fine print if only 4 million are getting it.

Im about to get a raise lol

So this is good for low level leadership positions I guess. Many supervisors making around 50k in salary, but putting in a lot more than 40 hours per week. Kinda why Ive avoided applying for those positions. Make a bit more, but gotta take the work home? hell no.

Whether this stands will depend on why Obama's rule was struck down and whether there's been enough technical changes to this rule to let it stand. This is genuinely good, but I don't see why there should be an income cap on it. People who work over 40 hours should be paid overtime, regardless of if they're hourly or salaried, low income or medium income.

BlueTigerLion posted...

Feels like there must be a fine print if only 4 million are getting it.

It's low salary workers.

The U.S. Department of Labor rule will require employers to pay overtime premiums to workers who earn a salary of less than $1,128 per week, or about $58,600 per year, when they work more than 40 hours in a week.

Feel like most salaried positions pay more than that.

yeah the lack of OT for salaried workers is garbage

I spent 2.5 straight months working 60+ hours a week and I'm making the same right now sitting at home with my laptop open and no work being done as I did during that period

legendary_zell posted...

Whether this stands will depend on why Obama's rule was struck down and whether there's been enough technical changes to this rule to let it stand. This is genuinely good, but I don't see why there should be an income cap on it. People who work over 40 hours should be paid overtime, regardless of if they're hourly or salaried, low income or medium income.

The article says why:

The Labor Department in 2016 doubled the salary threshold to about $47,000. A federal judge in Texas the following year said that ceiling was so high that it could sweep in some management workers who are exempt from overtime pay protections, and struck it down.

The new rule is likely to face legal challenges arguing that like the Obama administration rule, it violates federal wage law by including many lower-paid supervisors and professionals who typically would not be eligible for overtime.

Given that this new salary cap is even higher than the Obama one, I expect the same arguments to come into play. Basically, if they set the cap high enough that managers who aren't eligible for overtime fall under it, it creates a legal contradiction.

Unpaid overtime just needs to be outright illegal

Bio1590 posted...

Unpaid overtime just needs to be outright illegal

I dunno about unpaid being illegal but uncompensated should be illegal. Like, if I work an extra 4 hours, I want that 4 hours back as PTO, or paid, or to be reflected in the bonus.

Tyranthraxus posted...

I dunno about unpaid being illegal but uncompensated should be illegal. Like, if I work an extra 4 hours, I want that 4 hours back as PTO, or paid, or to be reflected in the bonus.

Yeah that's what I meant.

ill give you guys an example.

im salaried, and given the option to pick up "extra" work duties, but they only pay me at the contract-worker rate for those overloads. im already at 40 hours so extra work means 50 hours, at least. if they paid me 1.5 my normal rate id probably do it, but they pay like 60% of my normal rate for "overtime"

so, obviously, i don't take on the extra duties because they pay worse than my job, but many colleagues are forced to take them, or need money, and so they get exploited.