Board 8 > Toy Story Mafia Topic 6: Avoiding Yet Another Yard Sale

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Current Votals

Death (1) - (Lea), (Ulti), (Knightz),Lea, FD
Lea (1) - (Ulti), (Ben), (Knightz), (Ulti)(Ulti), knightz
Knightz (0) -( Ulti)
Ulti (0)- (Knightz)
Sbell (0) - (Lea), (Knightz)

Vintage toys not yet Broken

ItzKnightz (Knight)
Enchantress (Lea)
Forceful_Dragon (FD)
PunishedBen (Ben)
Obellisk (Sbell)
UltimaterializerX (Ulti)
htaeD (Death)

Ulti, we can all agree that you are confirmed town, right? And that scum will want to remove you from the equation so there can be less confirmed alive and they can play to their outs.

So then Ben is either bodyguard, or scum.

If he's bodyguard, he can draw the roleblock, so that scum can kill you.

If he's scum, scum can just kill you, but then they CAN'T roleblock Knightz tonight or else he will have to explain how you died on his watch.

With that in mind, even if you think there is a chance Knightz is scum, we are approaching a night where his role is going to have to do something. It stands to reason that he is a bad lynch today. Just like Ben is a bad lynch because his claimed role requires that he should either eat the RB or die protecting you.

So can you please give me a reason for wants to lynch Knightz that isn't simply "red would never block a clothing vendor 3 times". You still haven't explained who scum should have been trying to block after the Tracker and Cop both died.

Updated Votals:

Death (2) - Lea, (Ulti), (Knightz), FD
Knightz (1) - (Ulti), Ulti
Lea (1) - (Ulti), (Ben), (Knightz), (Ulti), (Ulti), Knightz
Sbell (0) - (Lea), (Knightz)

Host note: Sultan is the best and he has picked up a lot of slack during a horrible time for me, so I will not stand for Sultan slander. He is the man. End host note

Reminder: With 7 players remaining it takes 4 votes to lynch. Deadline is in just over 24 hours.

wallmasterz posted...

Updated Votals:

Death (2) - Lea, (Ulti), (Knightz), FD
Knightz (1) - (Ulti), Ulti
Lea (1) - (Ulti), (Ben), (Knightz), (Ulti), (Ulti), Knightz
Sbell (0) - (Lea), (Knightz)

Host note: Sultan is the best and he has picked up a lot of slack during a horrible time for me, so I will not stand for Sultan slander. He is the man. End host note

how many votes till lynch?

There are 7 alive so it takes 4 votes to end the day early with a lynch.

Ulti, why do you want me lynched?
Don't give me a "why would red block him three times" excuse.

Tag

ItzKnightz posted...

Ulti, why do you want me lynched?
Don't give me a "why would red block him three times" excuse.

-_-

Forceful_Dragon posted...

-_-

what? I thought he was ignoring you so I thought I could try asking him myself.

Trying things the Lea way, eh?

##vote: Sbell

Currently, Death will be voted by FD, Ben, Sbell. Sbell will be voted by Death, Lea, Ulti, let's say.

It may come down to fresh faced rookie Knightz. Will he end the game in a glorious town victory and chase that high for the rest of his life? Or will he choose wrong and study hard in school, work hard, and be a productive member of society. Time will tell!

Don't mistake my position. Even though I personally believe death is the more likely scum, I have no way to be certain. I'll switch to Sbell if that is the collective decision.

I think the claw nonsense is not standard scum play from him, but I've been wrong before.

But if it's 3-3 there is no collective decision, it's anarchy in the streets!

I'd say its too early to have such a clean divide. But if thats where this is going then yeah my vote will be obvious.
But I cant help but feel like I am being suckered into the wrong direction.

Do you have like, any direction of your own at all tho

I had it narrowed down to you or FD before the claims happened.
After that I believed that at least one of you or Ben are telling the truth since scum getting a strongman does not make as much sense otherwise. Ben I feel has been more involved and analytic than you, but he's also been a bad BG.
(Which honestly makes me like him as town more, since why would scum pretend to be a bad BG?)
Though you could also both be truthful.

But I am going back to the previous topics to get a proper overview of what everyone had said and done, so my suspect is in limbo for that time.
For example, I had liked Sbell enough the first 3 days, but sheer PoE is making me secondguess myself.

are you guys fucking kidding ?

Igcd tries to buddy me to start day 1 and red goes on to promote my towniness and Sbell walks in flaunting his flavor all game (which he's literally never successfully done ever as scum).

this is what I wake up to?

Ulti don't be garbage.

stop listening to SCUMFd

##vote: FD

I also didn't hammer the day at any point yeaterday when I believe I could have hammered either death or Lea and not been attacked for it.

Then maybe you should have? That doesn't make ME scum though, weird vote

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Then maybe you should have? That doesn't make ME scum though, weird vote

honestly your the least likely person I trust at the moment.

your attitude thus whole game has been tilted and you've spent a majority of your time telling everyone how bad at mafia critical thinking they are.

and why would I hammer a vote I'm not confident on.

You wouldn't, but it's a weird thing to bring up now?

"Oh yeah? You want to vote me? Well I could have killed someone yesterday!"

Meanwhile I explained why my preference is to vote death first multiple times, but that PoE puts you second. That's not me being tilted, that's me reaching a conclusion after actually trying to extract information today.

And yeah, I spent a bit of time this game explaining the ways other people screwed up, that's something RED attacked me heavily for as well so I guess you're in good company? I think it's safe to say I would have done it much less if y'all hadn't made such egregious mistakes.

(Edit: swipe correction)

And for the record I STILL think death is more likely to be scum than you are and would prefer to lynch him, but you aren't making a great case for yourself at the moment.

(Edit: swipe correction)

Forceful_Dragon posted...

but you aren't making a great case for yourself at the moment.

because I'm following my gut i make myself look like scum?

that's dumb and illogical.

Eh flaunting your flavor is not something scum cant do all game
But you are correct tho that Reds townread of you makes you look good, now that I see that post for myself again
(And at the very least I think the one who brought that up (Ben I believe) has not voted)
Also not sure if IGCD would ask you to vote Changmas if you were his scumpartner either, that is true.

That said Sbell, I dont see this as a good defense.
Obellisk posted...

I also didn't hammer the day at any point yeaterday when I believe I could have hammered either death or Lea and not been attacked for it.

If scum does only have 1 member left, they might not want to hammer because of how they would look the next day.

htaeD posted...

If scum does only have 1 member left, they might not want to hammer because of how they would look the next day.

doubt I get the brunt of a mislynch if I hammer you when everyone all buy says just lynch death and be done with it. (assuming you flip town)

As much as I dislike Bens BG play (or lack thereof), I think its better to see what happens tonight first.
If Ben is scum and wants to fake being RBed, then scum will have let Knightz get his power off.

Obellisk posted...

doubt I get the brunt of a mislynch if I hammer you when everyone all buy says just lynch death and be done with it. (assuming you flip town)

I guess not unless you were to do it Redstyle.
I would be sad that you did while I was sleeping tho.

htaeD posted...

I guess not unless you were to do it Redstyle.
I would be sad that you did while I was sleeping tho.

and when has scum sbell ever turned down an opportunity to hammer.

I am sure I am forgetting some hilarious examples where you hammered

I do have a question now, thanks to topic2, and I dont immediately see if anyone else brought it up yet.

You gave red a townread day1. Do you recall why?

htaeD posted...

I do have a question now, thanks to topic2, and I dont immediately see if anyone else brought it up yet.

You gave red a townread day1. Do you recall why?

he pushed me being town. he earned my trust.

I didn't see Scum red in his few (very few) posts he had made.

who are we going to lynch tonight?
I say either Death or Ulti.

ItzKnightz posted...

who are we going to lynch tonight?
I say either Death or Ulti.

ulti makes no sense. honestly.

by definition MASON is town/town partner.
Woody flipped Mason. Ulti claimed Buzz other Mason. With 7 left and no counter all game. Ulti is Town confirmed strangely enough.

Obellisk posted...

ulti makes no sense. honestly.

by definition MASON is town/town partner.
Woody flipped Mason. Ulti claimed Buzz other Mason. With 7 left and no counter all game. Ulti is Town confirmed strangely enough.

Ok not Ulti but what about Death?

ItzKnightz posted...

Ok not Ulti but what about Death?

dearh is possible and if it saves me from getting lynched I'd happily be the fourth vote on him. But in my heart of hearts I do think FD is scum. that may be wrong but itt feels right right now.

ItzKnightz posted...

Ok not Ulti but what about Death?

I feel like I am gonna have to bring this up for the sake of town future.
Knightz, when I flip town, who will be scum then in your eyes?

htaeD posted...

I feel like I am gonna have to bring this up for the sake of town future.
Knightz, when I flip town, who will be scum then in your eyes?

Honestly, I don't know who will be next on my list of suspects. FD is getting pretty close to sus, SBell is town unless proven otherwise in my book and Ben is also getting close to sus but not quite there yet.

I will say that I have noticed Death being more prone to "But Sbell has looked good for X" and he's been hesitant to just push the angle that i am clearly scum. The last time Death acted this way he was scum. When death is town he generally has no issue saying i'm scum (whether right or not in the situation).

Here's my list of where everyone is for alignment-wise:
Most Likely Town
SBell

Maybe Town
Ben

Maybe Scum
FD
Death

Most Likely Scum
N/A

Obellisk posted...

I will say that I have noticed Death being more prone to "But Sbell has looked good for X" and he's been hesitant to just push the angle that i am clearly scum. The last time Death acted this way he was scum. When death is town he generally has no issue saying i'm scum (whether right or not in the situation).

I dont recall a habit of calling you surefire scum.
Its moreso that the way you played (day1 mostly) reminded me of the town sbell I know. Tho yes, I was scum the last time I saw that Sbell.

no i wouln't say surefire scum call habit necessarily but less likely to give me the benefit of the doubt.

Here's my updated list of where everyone is for alignment-wise:
Confirmed Town
Ulti

Most Likely Town
SBell

Maybe Town
Ben
Death

Maybe Scum
FD

Most Likely Scum
N/A