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Kaldrenthebold
04/24/24 5:05:37 PM
#51:


Good god the gaming subreddit is basically like PS5 board. YIKES.


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04/24/24 5:07:45 PM
#52:


Kaldrenthebold posted...
Good god the gaming subreddit is basically like PS5 board. YIKES.

Capital G Gamers I take it.

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Kaldrenthebold
04/24/24 5:09:00 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Capital G Gamers I take it.

Yes. Yes they are

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DipDipDiver
04/24/24 5:11:40 PM
#54:


Seems like not that big a deal tbh. Even in context it's just a euphemism for a racist word, but racist people aren't the ones using the phrase "hard r" to refer to that

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mach25687
04/24/24 5:17:31 PM
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Honestly, my old brain went to movies with that.

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Ragtag28
04/24/24 5:17:50 PM
#57:


Frosted_Midna posted...
I don't even get it. Why was it changed?
Telling your age son.

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Ragtag28
04/24/24 5:20:16 PM
#58:


Guide posted...
Ehhh. Didn't need to be patched out, but it's not some huge thing that it was, either.
Sigh.......this is what gets users accounts banned.

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04/24/24 5:20:21 PM
#59:


Authors are allowed to make revisions.

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Ragtag28
04/24/24 5:21:01 PM
#60:


DipDipDiver posted...
Seems like not that big a deal tbh. Even in context it's just a euphemism for a racist word, but racist people aren't the ones using the phrase "hard r" to refer to that
Looks like another one going to get their account deleted

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runewalshPSiv
04/24/24 5:22:38 PM
#61:


Mr_Karate_II posted...
Seriously? Didn't need to be patched out?

Yes.

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MyMainAccount
04/24/24 5:22:49 PM
#62:


Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
I think the bigger issue is the process that brought it about. Procedural generation I guess? In this kind of game?
If I had to guess they have a standard walll texture with ocassional graffiti they spread over the walls and didn't notice the interaction, probably because they had been spreading it over walls for hours and had gotten to the point they were just scanning for graphical glitches, missing that

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Phoro
04/24/24 5:29:49 PM
#63:


mach25687 posted...
Honestly, my old brain went to movies with that.

Same. I watch tons of sleeze, so when I see something that's R rated but really pushes the boundaries of the rating, I refer to it as a "hard R". As opposed to something like The Matrix or The Conjuring, which I call "soft R".

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Gurifisu
04/24/24 5:33:45 PM
#64:


Isn't this a Korean made game? Chances are they had no idea there was any controversy regarding racial slurs. Doubt it was intentional. Bet some westerner saw it, asked them to remove it, and they were probably like "huh? That's offensive? Okay, yeah whatever, no problem."

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DipDipDiver
04/24/24 5:34:51 PM
#65:


Ragtag28 posted...
Looks like another one going to get their account deleted
Feel free to mark it if you think I'm breaking any rules

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DrizztLink
04/24/24 5:35:26 PM
#66:


Gurifisu posted...
Isn't this a Korean made game? Chances are they had no idea there was any controversy regarding racial slurs. Doubt it was intentional. Bet some westerner saw it, asked them to remove it, and they were probably like "huh? That's offensive? Okay, yeah whatever, no problem."
Essentially, yes.

However, we have a bunch of chuds making a bigger deal about its removal than anyone did about its presence.

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HentaiMan
04/24/24 10:02:51 PM
#67:


Jupiter posted...
Hard R refers to the N word. With the -er ending. Mostly said by racist people. As opposed to the -a ending.
I have never heard this before. didn't trigger anything in me. oh well.

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Deegs
04/24/24 10:30:06 PM
#68:


absolutebuffoon posted...
The reasonable take that should end the issue:

1) That was definitely unintentional

2) Removing it is a good call, even if it's not in your face for some it could cause some unintentional offense to someone else

3) Nobody actually cares about the placement of a standard repeated graphics tile and nothing of value was lost by moving them

Removing an unintended message is perfectly normal.

My take as well on this. Even if you're 100% anti-censorship this isn't something that was planned and removed because of some kind of "woke-agenda." I'd be more upset by removing the high res pinups from Tomb Raider HD that were in the original game than this.

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SoIidLegacy
04/24/24 10:38:51 PM
#69:


HentaiMan posted...
I have never heard this before. didn't trigger anything in me. oh well.

Same here. Earlier someone ITT talked about how people are going to pretend not knowing what it means, but I sincerely never heard of this and literally had to have this topic explain it to me. Tbh I'm still not sure I get it, but I guess if enough people agree that it's offensive and it was edited out, then good for everyone I guess.

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NoxObscuras
04/24/24 10:43:36 PM
#70:


SoIidLegacy posted...
Same here. Earlier someone ITT talked about how people are going to pretend not knowing what it means, but I sincerely never heard of this and literally had to have this topic explain it to me. Tbh I'm still not sure I get it, but I guess if enough people agree that it's offensive and it was edited out, then good for everyone I guess.
It was explained pretty clearly in post #34:
Jupiter posted...
Hard R refers to the N word. With the -er ending. Mostly said by racist people. As opposed to the -a ending.



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SoIidLegacy
04/24/24 10:45:26 PM
#71:


NoxObscuras posted...
It was explained pretty clearly in post #34:

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. I didn't know and this topic explained it to me, sort of.

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FL81
04/25/24 3:27:53 PM
#72:


they had a real Linus Sebastian moment there

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Seaman_Prime
04/25/24 4:55:58 PM
#73:


Hard R would be a pretty good rap name, if you forget the slur
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Deegs
04/25/24 10:16:17 PM
#75:


Been seeing that the "Hard R" patch also modified one of the bonus outfits to make it less skimpy. Sony just couldn't help themselves.

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ssjevot
04/25/24 10:21:39 PM
#76:


I have zero problem with this being patched out, but as a fellow old I can confirm hard R meant an R-rated movie that really pushed the envelope when we were growing up (80s and 90s).

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Aloc
04/25/24 10:26:52 PM
#78:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Shock being annoying again

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MagiMarthKoopa
04/25/24 10:29:01 PM
#79:


Deegs posted...
Been seeing that the "Hard R" patch also modified one of the bonus outfits to make it less skimpy. Sony just couldn't help themselves.
They destroyed the bunny outfit

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Deegs
04/25/24 10:32:51 PM
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Well considering they said they game wouldn't be censored in any region...The "hard r" stuff again I get even if it can have multiple meanings but this is pretty clearly a censorship thing.

https://x.com/StellarBlade/status/1781976139688534449

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deoxxys
04/25/24 11:25:44 PM
#82:


I mean I don't like censorship but we're not really losing out on anything important here like titties

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Karovorak
04/27/24 4:15:19 AM
#83:


deoxxys posted...
I mean I don't like censorship but we're not really losing out on anything important here like titties

Seems like they actually changed some outfits too.

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superben
04/27/24 4:16:51 AM
#84:


Sony censored some of eves costumes. Specially the front region down under.

Sony=Fandom confirmed!

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Zakawer3
04/27/24 4:55:14 AM
#85:


"I've dropped my fair share of hard Rs."

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ultimate_reaver
04/27/24 4:56:53 AM
#86:


lmao

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PurpleOutsider
04/27/24 5:05:53 AM
#87:


https://youtu.be/Oq5zmyRA92A?si=q5DScSgYVvPKT9do

If anybody is confused, here's an example of that pronunciation being referred to by that term. Though it is Maya Rudolph who pronounces it like that.

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dave_is_slick
04/27/24 5:17:45 AM
#88:


Mr_Karate_II posted...
Seriously? Didn't need to be patched out?
Yes. Not upset it was but it didn't need to be.

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dave_is_slick
04/27/24 5:19:25 AM
#89:


HentaiMan posted...
I have never heard this before. didn't trigger anything in me. oh well.
I don't believe you.

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deoxxys
04/27/24 5:20:10 AM
#90:


Karovorak posted...
Seems like they actually changed some outfits too.
Sighhh

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dave_is_slick
04/27/24 5:20:31 AM
#91:


SoIidLegacy posted...
Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. I didn't know and this topic explained it to me, sort of.
What do you mean "sort of", it's clear as day.

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HentaiMan
04/27/24 6:15:01 AM
#92:




I don't believe you.
that's your problem and assumption. Many walks of life, we come from. As a asian american I was not familiar with this nor do I have my ear to the ground 100% regarding the black american experience. Not my sphere of expertise sorry.
SoIidLegacy posted...
Same here. Earlier someone ITT talked about how people are going to pretend not knowing what it means, but I sincerely never heard of this and literally had to have this topic explain it to me. Tbh I'm still not sure I get it, but I guess if enough people agree that it's offensive and it was edited out, then good for everyone I guess.
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BabyDahl
04/27/24 6:21:19 AM
#93:


Doe posted...
time for another thread where some CEmen pretend to have never heard of "the hard R" while others pretend/assume there are mobs of foam-mouthed SJWs yelling about this
The problem is that in order to believe it was indeed intentionally racist, you'd have to assume that the largely Korean/Japanese/etc. developers employed by Sony were trying to insert this very western/American racist dog whistle into their video game. Because, you know... the entire world views race relations through an American lens. Duh.

American and other first-language English speakers knowing what the "hard r" means? Yeah, of course most of us get it. But the developers of this game? C'mon. I highly doubt they just wanted to get a kick out of inserting implied bigoted language into their game.

Now, should it have been changed? I really don't care. To me, the game never looked interesting enough to buy in the first place.
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SoIidLegacy
04/27/24 1:34:02 PM
#94:


PurpleOutsider posted...
https://youtu.be/Oq5zmyRA92A?si=q5DScSgYVvPKT9do

If anybody is confused, here's an example of that pronunciation being referred to by that term. Though it is Maya Rudolph who pronounces it like that.

dave_is_slick posted...
What do you mean "sort of", it's clear as day.

Actually I think I get it now that I've seen it exemplified in that video. If I understand correctly, 'the hard R' is another way of saying 'the n-word'. This might be super obvious to some of you, but not others because:

BabyDahl posted...
The problem is that in order to believe it was indeed intentionally racist, you'd have to assume that the largely Korean/Japanese/etc. developers employed by Sony were trying to insert this very western/American racist dog whistle into their video game. Because, you know... the entire world views race relations through an American lens. Duh.

American and other first-language English speakers knowing what the "hard r" means? Yeah, of course most of us get it. But the developers of this game? C'mon. I highly doubt they just wanted to get a kick out of inserting implied bigoted language into their game.

Now, should it have been changed? I really don't care. To me, the game never looked interesting enough to buy in the first place.

Personally, I still think 'hard R' is kind of an odd way to describe it and 'hard N' would make more sense, but I guess it's an American/English-speaking culture thing that just happened to develop that way. Same way how the expression "The end...or is it?" makes no sense to me, as it actually means "The end...or isn't it (the end)?"

I'm probably making no sense and CE will just end up calling me a troll or something, but hopefully a few people will get what I'm trying to say and that I don't mean to cause any offense. It's just that I honestly never encountered the phrase 'hard R' before, so I had no clue what all the fuss was about. I do now.

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BabyDahl
04/27/24 3:27:48 PM
#95:


SoIidLegacy posted...
Personally, I still think 'hard R' is kind of an odd way to describe it and 'hard N' would make more sense
It's because we're differentiating between the "soft a" version of the word that is commonly used by black Americans today, and the more racially charged epithet "hard r" we all know about. They both have a "hard n", so that term wouldn't do anything for trying to distinguish one from the other.
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SoIidLegacy
04/27/24 5:13:01 PM
#96:


BabyDahl posted...
It's because we're differentiating between the "soft a" version of the word that is commonly used by black Americans today, and the more racially charged epithet "hard r" we all know about. They both have a "hard n", so that term wouldn't do anything for trying to distinguish one from the other.

Ah I see, that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up.

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