Board 8 > Community Mafia Topic 2 - The Psychology of Fake Claiming

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wallmasterz
04/30/24 11:43:30 AM
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Getting ones noobs crossed sounds pretty nefarious

Autocorrect tried getting me in trouble with Fandom here

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changmas
04/30/24 11:44:22 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Ill take your word for it and assume hes 100% town.

How about Luis as a vanilla? We good there?

its generally good vanilla flavor, but FD and i both flagged it in the signup topic as a joke. (Which Knightz was all over). Thats the only hangup i have with it.

its something i would have been comfortable with fake claiming easily, but for Knightz its certainly either his real role or off safelist.

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Ranzoh
04/30/24 11:46:53 AM
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Fake claiming I see. What if I change the statement from we have had a bad life to we haven't had a good life in nearly 2/3rds of a century if things have really changed in the media. Show me a clip where we are called kings by others. Jk. Anyway hope it ain't me.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/30/24 11:48:15 AM
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Ranzoh posted...
Fake claiming I see. What if I change the statement from we have had a bad life to we haven't had a good life in nearly 2/3rds of a century if things have really changed in the media. Show me a clip where we are called kings by others. Jk. Anyway hope it ain't me.

Who the duck is this?

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TotallyNotMI
04/30/24 11:48:23 AM
#307:


Um what

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ctesjbuvf
04/30/24 11:48:41 AM
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Someway around halfway through topic 1 I will note about Knightz that it's super common for new players to be worried about being lynched as town as well and most new players want to live long as much as want to win the game. Then we'll see where it goes from there but being scared of being lynched after having never been suspected before basically is in itself not a scumcase.

wallmasterz posted...
Either the bold is true or its a heck of a coincidence. Im giving the benefit of the doubt that its coincidence but its silly to have a problem with me acknowledging that possibility.

I definitely think you post less often as scum. That doesnt mean you are always scum if you dont post at whatever frequency I would normally expect. Im in the same boat on this.

Youre currently in no danger of being lynched. Good luck with catching up.

Nothing in the part you bolded makes sense either though. Also if there is a pattern, you just aren't crosschecking with town games, before this I have played less the past year than before and rolled town like no times in it (SK was the closest to and I was called out for inactivity). I was super active in Ulti's game as scum but I guess that not ending properly has people forgetting it, that was also during summer vacation. Anyway, noting activity within a day just always looks like forced activity to me, but in particular the scummoned post looks like trying to make a point you don't actually believe in.

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Obellisk
04/30/24 11:48:55 AM
#309:


did one of our children fuck up their alts?

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changmas
04/30/24 11:49:16 AM
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i think thats an outside agitator

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changmas
04/30/24 11:50:36 AM
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That account has been around since before the children were alive lol

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Forceful_Dragon
04/30/24 11:50:43 AM
#312:


Karma: 3704
Registered: 2/28/2001 11:49:54 PM

Very low karma for an account that old. Ranzoh is itself an alt I think?

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Obellisk
04/30/24 11:51:15 AM
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changmas posted...
That account has been around since before the children were alive lol

which would make them not children?

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TheSultanOfSlam
04/30/24 11:51:17 AM
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Ranzoh posted...
Fake claiming I see. What if I change the statement from we have had a bad life to we haven't had a good life in nearly 2/3rds of a century if things have really changed in the media. Show me a clip where we are called kings by others. Jk. Anyway hope it ain't me.


I will get this resolved.

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ctesjbuvf
04/30/24 11:51:44 AM
#315:


Obellisk posted...
did one of our children fuck up their alts?

Did one of them say "we have had a bad life"?

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changmas
04/30/24 11:51:54 AM
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Obellisk posted...
which would make them not children?

were still on this nonsense?

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Obellisk
04/30/24 11:52:16 AM
#317:


No chang, I'm just spitballing the rando.

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Enchantress
04/30/24 11:54:48 AM
#318:


*PA Noise*

Attention Greendale Students, I have finally found an exterminator who accepts Groupons and vintage nickels, and they have agreed to remove our little pest problem.

...Additionally, I have blocked that unknown account. Please do not post in Mafia Games you are not in or schools you aren't enrolled in. You don't even go here.

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Lopen
04/30/24 11:55:21 AM
#319:


Yagyu Ranzou

His ninjutsu is without equal. All are like children to him

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Kirby321
04/30/24 11:55:38 AM
#320:


ctesjbuvf posted...
Someway around halfway through topic 1 I will note about Knightz that it's super common for new players to be worried about being lynched as town as well and most new players want to live long as much as want to win the game. Then we'll see where it goes from there but being scared of being lynched after having never been suspected before basically is in itself not a scumcase.

This is giving town Ctes vibes. Scum Ctes is also pretty calm and well-spoken, but sticking his neck out for Knightz feels towny to me. Sure, it's an easy pocket for scum to fake, but I'm getting good, genuine vibes from this. Welcome to the town club

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Lopen
04/30/24 11:56:28 AM
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No lie that's the first legitimate use of the block feature I've ever seen

Pretty cool

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TotallyNotMI
04/30/24 11:56:40 AM
#322:


Wow you're ready easy to please kirby

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TotallyNotMI
04/30/24 11:56:57 AM
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Really easy*

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wallmasterz
04/30/24 11:59:31 AM
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ctesjbuvf posted...
[stuff]

Ill take your word for it for now. I do recall it being a while since youve rolled town. Looking forward to you being fully caught up.

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wallmasterz
04/30/24 12:01:44 PM
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I thought Ranzoh was a bizarre host insert at first

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Kirby321
04/30/24 12:04:07 PM
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TotallyNotMI posted...
Wow you're ready easy to please kirby

I mean, you're not wrong. Push forward cohesive thoughts without expressing an ego the size of the sun, and I'll likely look favorably upon you lol

I mean, let's be honest, it's fucking Day 1. Anyone who thinks they have the scum team nailed to the wall is delusional. For me, it's more productive to seek out town reads, as that will be accurate more often than not by virtue of sheer numbers, and then work from there.

Not gonna say my method is foolproof, given that it took me way too long to realize FD was scum in a game where I said he was town at the start of the game. But it's better than screaming at players calling them scum over the most insignificant minutiae.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/30/24 12:06:29 PM
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I'm not convinced it wasn't Taco. I had trouble even understanding the post at first, context clues weren't making sense.

Ranzoh posted...
What if I change the statement from we have had a bad life to we haven't had a good life in nearly 2/3rds of a century if things have really changed in the media.

Leonard was a very old character. He was played by one of the original Little Rascals actors which was referenced at one point in the show.

To me this reads like Taco work shopping his Leonard claim and then he copy/pasted the wrong thing.

##Vote: Taco

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Tacocraft545
04/30/24 12:08:23 PM
#330:


Taunter: At night I can target another player and any action they perform is now targeted at me.

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TotallyNotMI
04/30/24 12:08:24 PM
#331:


Hmm

Changed in the media. Leonard has a popular YouTube review page. That kind of tracks for workshopping a claim...?

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Kirby321
04/30/24 12:09:32 PM
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Forceful_Dragon posted...
I'm not convinced it wasn't Taco. I had trouble even understanding the post at first, context clues weren't making sense.

Leonard was a very old character. He was played by one of the original Little Rascals actors which was referenced at one point in the show.

To me this reads like Taco work shopping his Leonard claim and then he copy/pasted the wrong thing.

##Vote: Taco

FD the account was made in 2001, before Taco was even born.

There could be other answers to justify Ranzoh being Taco, but quite frankly I think going down the conspiracy rabbit hole here is a wasteful endeavor. An outsider posted in the topic and was dealt with by the hosts. I don't think we need to read into this so deeply.

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changmas
04/30/24 12:10:18 PM
#334:


Is FD serious right now

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Kirby321
04/30/24 12:10:49 PM
#335:


Tacocraft545 posted...
Taunter: At night I can target another player and any action they perform is now targeted at me.

Checks out.

This role is not easy to Google, so either Taco is telling the truth, or he was coached by scummates. I'm inclined to believe that Taco is being truthful here.

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IfGodCouldDie
04/30/24 12:11:44 PM
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htaeD posted...
I would also like to ask IGCD and FD himself to tell us why they singled out Ulti, of all people who expressed a dislike of FDs post.

Specifically I get that FD seemed to be busy again, but I dont know why he ignored Blade and MI and the likes.
I singled put Ulti for the same reason I singled out Blade. They were the ones that essentially got the ball rolling on their prospective scum reads and I want to better understand why they are thinking what they are thinking because I'm not seeing it.

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TotallyNotMI
04/30/24 12:12:03 PM
#338:


Ugh fine I'll just block that account too. I've read it too many times trying to make sense of it and there's way better ways to use my time

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changmas
04/30/24 12:12:48 PM
#339:


Did we really go from the logical play is to not lynch at all / getting legitimately frustrated that people werent being serious enough last game to doing serious analysis on a random post that made no sense by someone who was obviously not a part of this game?

##Vote: FD

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ItzKnightz
04/30/24 12:14:23 PM
#340:


Kirby321 posted...
Checks out.

This role is not easy to Google, so either Taco is telling the truth, or he was coached by scummates. I'm inclined to believe that Taco is being truthful here.
Ben could've been a Taunter in Toy story Mafia with his comment he made to "test" me.

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Tacocraft545
04/30/24 12:15:06 PM
#342:


Random. What does this have to do with anything?

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Tacocraft545
04/30/24 12:15:31 PM
#343:


Itzknightz I mean

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ItzKnightz
04/30/24 12:16:07 PM
#344:


Tacocraft545 posted...
Itzknightz I mean
just thought of it

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Kirby321
04/30/24 12:16:15 PM
#345:


changmas posted...
Did we really go from the logical play is to not lynch at all / getting legitimately frustrated that people werent being serious enough last game to doing serious analysis on a random post that made no sense by someone who was obviously not a part of this game?

##Vote: FD

FD is definitely off his rocker. Not what I expected from him as either alignment.

It's disorienting, but I don't think it's indicative of scum FD necessarily. In fact, scum FD plays incredibly safe. A faux pas this bad seems very uncharacteristic.

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Tacocraft545
04/30/24 12:17:06 PM
#346:


##Unvote
##Vote: FD

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changmas
04/30/24 12:17:17 PM
#348:


I dont know what FD is doing this game but i am finding it very hard to believe that needling red about semantics and analyzing the equivalent of a Super Bowl streaker are serious attempts at scum hunting

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Kirby321
04/30/24 12:19:06 PM
#349:


ItzKnightz posted...
Ben could've been a Taunter in Toy story Mafia with his comment he made to "test" me.

What? I don't understand what you're trying to say here or why it's even relevant.

Ben's role last game was Bodyguard. He never actually used his ability... but that was his role. Not Taunter.

Taunter is a known role around these parts because it was infamous during Baseball Musical Mafia, colloquially known as "Chang Taunts Lopen" Mafia. As you might infer, town Chang taunted scum Lopen N1 and subsequently died. In that game, players could leave behind journals that would be revealed upon death. Chang's journal very clearly stated that he targeted Lopen N1, and since Chang died, Lopen was obviously scum.

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Tacocraft545
04/30/24 12:19:19 PM
#350:


I agree he is sus.

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