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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 2:00:45 PM
#351:


changmas posted...
no it didn't

"Fake claiming I see. What if I change the statement from we have had a bad life to we haven't had a good life in nearly 2/3rds of a century if things have really changed in the media. Show me a clip where we are called kings by others. Jk. Anyway hope it ain't me."

Ignore the first part.

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"what if i change the statement from 'we have had a bad life' to 'we haven't had a good life in nearly 2/3rds of a century'"

Leonard is often shown to have personal issues, with comments from Jeff referencing his family or gambling problems. He is also very old so he's one of the few characters who might have actually had a life "nearly 2/3rds of a century ago".

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" if things have really changed in the media."

This is a stretch, but the actor who played Leonard was one of the original Little Rascals from the black and white TV show, definitely "old media", but in the show at one point you see a clip from Leonard's YouTube channel when he's reviewing some potato chips.

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"Show me a clip where we are called kings by others."

idk about this unless it's asking someone (a scummate) for a clip from the TV show that paints Leonard in a good light? Definitely a stretch.

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The point is there were possible references to Leonard made by a strange account shortly after Taco claimed his flavor, and EVERYTHING about the brothers has been strange since their arrival so I was primed to be looking for weird crap.

You can call it chasing a dead end if you want, but the fact remains that I believed I had a reason to look into so I looked into it.

you also brought up last game's No Lynch again because you are STUCK on that even though it has been REPEATEDLY explained why last game was DIFFERENT.

If anyone is trying to derail this game it's YOU going out of your way to rile me up, but to what end?

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changmas
05/01/24 2:03:03 PM
#352:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
"Fake claiming I see. What if I change the statement from we have had a bad life to we haven't had a good life in nearly 2/3rds of a century if things have really changed in the media. Show me a clip where we are called kings by others. Jk. Anyway hope it ain't me."

Ignore the first part.

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"what if i change the statement from 'we have had a bad life' to 'we haven't had a good life in nearly 2/3rds of a century'"

Leonard is often shown to have personal issues, with comments from Jeff referencing his family or gambling problems. He is also very old so he's one of the few characters who might have actually had a life "nearly 2/3rds of a century ago".

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" if things have really changed in the media."

This is a stretch, but the actor who played Leonard was one of the original Little Rascals from the black and white TV show, definitely "old media", but in the show at one point you see a clip from Leonard's YouTube channel when he's reviewing some potato chips.

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"Show me a clip where we are called kings by others."

idk about this unless it's asking someone (a scummate) for a clip from the TV show that paints Leonard in a good light? Definitely a stretch.

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The point is there were possible references to Leonard made by a strange account shortly after Taco claimed his flavor, and EVERYTHING about the brothers has been strange since their arrival so I was primed to be looking for weird crap.

honestly i would put this beneath even lopen's wildest tangents

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wallmasterz
05/01/24 2:03:33 PM
#353:


changmas posted...
how about wallz

This is making me feel better about death. Red appears and Chang is now taking a poll to determine the best mislynch candidate

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Meow1000
05/01/24 2:04:54 PM
#354:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
"Fake claiming I see. What if I change the statement from we have had a bad life to we haven't had a good life in nearly 2/3rds of a century if things have really changed in the media. Show me a clip where we are called kings by others. Jk. Anyway hope it ain't me."

Ignore the first part.

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"what if i change the statement from 'we have had a bad life' to 'we haven't had a good life in nearly 2/3rds of a century'"

Leonard is often shown to have personal issues, with comments from Jeff referencing his family or gambling problems. He is also very old so he's one of the few characters who might have actually had a life "nearly 2/3rds of a century ago".

.

" if things have really changed in the media."

This is a stretch, but the actor who played Leonard was one of the original Little Rascals from the black and white TV show, definitely "old media", but in the show at one point you see a clip from Leonard's YouTube channel when he's reviewing some potato chips.

.

"Show me a clip where we are called kings by others."

idk about this unless it's asking someone (a scummate) for a clip from the TV show that paints Leonard in a good light? Definitely a stretch.

.

The point is there were possible references to Leonard made by a strange account shortly after Taco claimed his flavor, and EVERYTHING about the brothers has been strange since their arrival so I was primed to be looking for weird crap.

You can call it chasing a dead end if you want, but the fact remains that I believed I had a reason to look into so I looked into it.

you also brought up last game's No Lynch again because you are STUCK on that even though it has been REPEATEDLY explained why last game was DIFFERENT.

If anyone is trying to derail this game it's YOU going out of your way to rile me up, but to what end?
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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 2:07:59 PM
#355:


Meow1000 posted...
............

This is in reference to a random (very old) account that made a random off the wall post, shortly after Taco claimed his flavor. Topic 2, page 7.

The account got blocked so they couldn't post in the topic more. It was an early 2000s account with 3k~ karma so it appeared to be an alt itself or else it would probably have much more karma.

But hey, weird thing happens and I try to figure it out, guess that's on me according to chang.

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changmas
05/01/24 2:09:09 PM
#356:


when a streaker interrupts the super bowl do you try to analyze which team hired the streaker as a secret strategy to improve their chances to win the game too or is that just reserved for mafia games

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wallmasterz
05/01/24 2:09:24 PM
#357:


FD, who should we lynch and why?

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Meow1000
05/01/24 2:09:55 PM
#358:


Whatever that post said, it's been deleted.

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Meow1000
05/01/24 2:13:12 PM
#360:


Who is on the list

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TotallyNotMI
05/01/24 2:13:50 PM
#361:


PeaceFrog posted...
Chang, Ulti, Wallz, fd, and sbell are town.


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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 2:15:02 PM
#362:


wallmasterz posted...
FD, who should we lynch and why?

Realistically? Knightz because of the discrepancies with relaying information about his flavor and the change in tone from last game when he was town.

But just because that's how we should end the day doesn't mean we stop looking.

I'm not loving Chang staying stuck on my (objectively correct) NL advocacy from last game so he's worth considering. I still want to hear more from Isquen and red and MI, so I wouldn't say they are scummy, but they feel underrepresented in terms of activity. I would have included blade in that list but he hit the ground running today.

There are people like peaf and ctes that I generally feel happy with but I'm trying not to green check people just because they indicated they feel good about me so that's a pair I should probably review as well. Essentially we should keep our nose to the grind stone even if ending on Knightz feels like the right play regardless of what else we dig up (barring a Day Cop with a guilty scan, I suppose)

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Meow1000
05/01/24 2:16:26 PM
#363:


Oh that.

I feel like I've had multiple people this game tell me I should suspect Chang but I haven't been sold on the reasons

Like Knightz why does he come off as "overconfident scum"

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 2:17:35 PM
#364:


changmas posted...
when a streaker interrupts the super bowl do you try to analyze which team hired the streaker as a secret strategy to improve their chances to win the game too or is that just reserved for mafia games

Apples and Oranges.

Alts and people pretending not to be alts has been a thing on gamefaqs for literally decades. Show me a decades long history of teams planning streakers to gain a tactical advantage and I'll consider your example the same.

I spent the entire last game worried that Knightz was a veteran pretending to be a noob and nothing so far has fully dispelled that from being a possibility.

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red13n
05/01/24 2:19:17 PM
#365:


If I had reason to lynch knightz it is him parroting the stupid argument that he couldn't possibly be scum because communication.

It felt weird, to say the least.

But I'm not sure I necessarily agree that hes been completely different from last game. Hes been just as hard to follow.

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changmas
05/01/24 2:20:57 PM
#366:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
I spent the entire last game worried that Knightz was a veteran pretending to be a noob and nothing so far has fully dispelled that from being a possibility.

MY GOD MAN GIVE IT UP

half the time you say you spent the entire game trying to keep him on track because he's a child isn't able to use basic logic and the other half of the time you think he's a sleeper cell agent infiltrating TWO games pretending to be a 13 year old child and for what nefarious purpose? don't you think if he was faking it it would have come out last game?

jesus christ i'm taking crazy pills he is clearly a 13 year old child and the sooner you give up these inane conspiracy theories and actually return to Earth the sooner we can actually play this game

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wallmasterz
05/01/24 2:21:02 PM
#367:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Isquen and red and MI

I feel like MI has been around decently often. Definitely more than Corrik and probably more than IGCD.

Also, Ctes needs more non-noob related content

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TotallyNotMI
05/01/24 2:23:05 PM
#368:


I also feel like I've been here a lot but people keep saying I haven't been so maybe I'm crazy

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 2:23:50 PM
#369:


changmas posted...
half the time you say you spent the entire game trying to keep him on track because he's a child isn't able to use basic logic and the other half of the time you think he's a sleeper cell agent infiltrating TWO games pretending to be a 13 year old child and for what nefarious purpose? don't you think if he was faking it it would have come out last game?

Yes? Because I'm legitimately not sure.

On the off chance he was legitimate I went out of my way to explain when he was doing something wrong, which was more than most were doing. So benefit of the doubt was being given. But just because I was giving him benefit of the doubt doesn't mean I'm convinced it wasn't a ruse.

Pretty straightforward.

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Meow1000
05/01/24 2:24:25 PM
#370:


I was scum with IGCD in my last game and he was aggressive and TMIing like a madman.

How many games has he played since

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 2:24:50 PM
#371:


TotallyNotMI posted...
I also feel like I've been here a lot but people keep saying I haven't been so maybe I'm crazy

And you probably have been, that's something I'll need to clear up with an iso. At the very least I haven't felt impacted by your posts, but I'm willing to acknowledge there are probably more of them than I'm remembering.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 2:29:31 PM
#372:


Meow1000 posted...
I was scum with IGCD in my last game and he was aggressive and TMIing like a madman.

How many games has he played since

1 or 2? He was scum last game (toy story), but according to my spreadsheet he was not in valentine mafia or simpsons mafia. Dont know if he was in simple christmas mafia because I was mislynched day 1 so it never made it to my spreadsheet.

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red13n
05/01/24 2:35:45 PM
#373:


last game should barely count as a scum game for IGCD.

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Meow1000
05/01/24 2:36:25 PM
#374:


Would sure be swell to get a real claim from Knightz or really any question answered in general.

Also Ben where you at

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Meow1000
05/01/24 2:36:39 PM
#375:


red13n posted...
last game should barely count as a scum game for IGCD.
Why

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 2:36:48 PM
#376:


Also true, he was dead literally immediately to town day vig.

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changmas
05/01/24 2:37:37 PM
#377:


Meow1000 posted...
Why

corrik dayvigged him about 15 minutes into day 1

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 2:38:10 PM
#378:


I just checked, it was 41 minutes in, but only Topic 1, Post 36

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Obellisk
05/01/24 2:40:43 PM
#379:


Meow1000 posted...
Would sure be swell to get a real claim from Knightz

do we think that his vanilla claim is a lie? why do you think that?

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Meow1000
05/01/24 2:42:22 PM
#380:


Obellisk posted...
do we think that his vanilla claim is a lie? why do you think that?
I have absolutely no idea what this guy has actually claimed

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Meow1000
05/01/24 2:42:59 PM
#381:


Someone gave Corrik a day 1 gun oh boy

Why did he do it

What was IGCD

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 2:44:25 PM
#382:


Meow1000 posted...
Someone gave Corrik a day 1 gun oh boy

Why did he do it

What was IGCD

Scum godfather.

which was the reason I advocated for NL last game, we had such a massive advantage that we didn't need to tip off scum to any roles.

Instead I was nearly lynched for it, then our Tracker was forced to claim day 1 and got strongarm'd that night.

So yeah, that's the whole "FD wanted to NL" thing that Chang keeps bitching about.

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Obellisk
05/01/24 2:45:06 PM
#383:


Meow1000 posted...
I have absolutely no idea what this guy has actually claimed


he claimed, or so I thought, Luis Guzman, Town Vanilla. reason being he only shows up once and got a statue of him on campus.

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Meow1000
05/01/24 2:47:41 PM
#384:


Obellisk posted...
he claimed, or so I thought, Luis Guzman, Town Vanilla. reason being he only shows up once and got a statue of him on campus.
This is the first time someone has actually mentioned him claiming Luis Guzman town vanilla

Everyone has just been talking around it to the point where I wasn't sure if he ever really claimed

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Kirby321
05/01/24 2:50:17 PM
#385:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Do something productive this game because you have been coasting on our 1 argument and doing nothing else.

It's okay, FD. I'll be your masonbuddy this game.

##Vote: Red
Die scumfilth

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Leafeon13N
05/01/24 2:52:10 PM
#386:


##unvote
##vote: kirby
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Leafeon13N
05/01/24 2:53:25 PM
#387:


You haven't been here for hours and then you show up to raw vote. I think you can die.
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Meow1000
05/01/24 2:53:35 PM
#388:


Kirby321 posted...
It's okay, FD. I'll be your masonbuddy this game.

##Vote: Red
Die scumfilth
How soon before Red does something petty

Leafeon13N posted...
##unvote
##vote: kirby
Oh

Why Kirby

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Meow1000
05/01/24 2:54:07 PM
#389:


Why in god's name was I reading that Kirby post as of Ulti had made it

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Obellisk
05/01/24 2:54:16 PM
#390:


how long has red been here?

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Leafeon13N
05/01/24 2:55:00 PM
#391:


It feels like a couple hours I'm not sure i dont do mornings for a reason.
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Kirby321
05/01/24 2:55:08 PM
#392:


Leafeon13N posted...
You haven't been here for hours and then you show up to raw vote. I think you can die.

You are absolutely one to talk lmao

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Obellisk
05/01/24 2:55:46 PM
#393:


I also still like my case on Kirby from his first postings but further reading I started to feel a more town vibe from him.

can I get a stronger case on him?

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Meow1000
05/01/24 2:55:51 PM
#394:


That is now the second time I did that but at least I confused Chang and Ctes which are both Cs how the shit did I see Kirby and think Ulti


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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 2:56:07 PM
#395:


Meow1000 posted...
This is the first time someone has actually mentioned him claiming Luis Guzman town vanilla

Everyone has just been talking around it to the point where I wasn't sure if he ever really claimed

Yeah that's going to happen sometimes when you skip 1500 posts

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red13n
05/01/24 2:57:16 PM
#396:


Kirby321 posted...
You are absolutely one to talk lmao
I show up to talk to people you showed up to be like "rawr fd i buddy you haha".

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Kirby321
05/01/24 2:57:57 PM
#397:


Meow1000 posted...
That is now the second time I did that but at least I confused Chang and Ctes which are both Cs how the shit did I see Kirby and think Ulti

Tbf such wanton memery and brazeness is more of Ulti's schtick

Especially since my first action of catching up was becoming FD's white knight and laying the Red fiend low

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Meow1000
05/01/24 2:58:01 PM
#398:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Yeah that's going to happen sometimes when you skip 1500 posts
Moo

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Kirby321
05/01/24 2:59:07 PM
#399:


red13n posted...
I show up to talk to people you showed up to be like "rawr fd i buddy you haha".

I also came to talk to people. Why else would I post in this topic and make my presence known? How presumptuous of you. Hmph

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TotallyNotMI
05/01/24 2:59:58 PM
#400:


You should find a word choice in red's post you don't like and argue about it for the next 250 posts

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