Board 8 > Community Mafia Topic 4 - Advanced WIFOM Game Theory

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Meow1000
05/01/24 1:16:44 PM
#301:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Yeah Blade is town, thank christ

And dude I was confirmed town one game ago!
Factually impossible for you to ever be confirmed.

If anyone ever gets a role that can break every conceivable rule of mafia and get a confirm it's you

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Meow1000
05/01/24 1:17:17 PM
#302:


wallmasterz posted...
Blade, listen to me. I need you to tell me what the hell you are on about here. As long ago as topic 1 I specifically said I did not have a problem with sbell the way you did, even after reading him wrong recently. That is clearly taking a side, and doing it a while ago.

What you should have said is I did not take a side immediately during professor Blades lecture, and apparently now I must die. Next time I promise to stand a bit closer and sniff your farts the very second Im instructed to do so.

I dont know whether Blade is being a gaslighting jerk for this or just punishing me for his selective reading. But either way, I dont appreciate it.
This still isn't content.

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Obellisk
05/01/24 1:17:40 PM
#303:


he was a Mason bro with Mason Cop.

fucker was confirmed...

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Obellisk
05/01/24 1:18:52 PM
#304:


when was the last time we had a game hit a 5th topic on day 1...

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wallmasterz
05/01/24 1:18:55 PM
#305:


Meow1000 posted...
Uh probably.

But the constant doubling down in the face of people telling you your arguments on me suck is town indicative enough to me that I consider it much more likely that there's scum like Wall just sitting back and watching us fight.

Wall has no content since my return but he's sure had time to complain about my read of him.

I spent most of the last two hours in a meeting and having a consultation with an attorney. Whether its sincere or manipulative its an asshole move to come bemoan my lack of content in the few hours youve been back here after you missed an irl day and a half.

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Meow1000
05/01/24 1:19:08 PM
#306:


Really the argument is you're on the sidelines.

That post doesn't change the argument.

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Meow1000
05/01/24 1:19:53 PM
#307:


Obellisk posted...
he was a Mason bro with Mason Cop.

fucker was confirmed...
MAFIA MASON SPY

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 1:22:37 PM
#308:


Meow1000 posted...
MAFIA MASON SPY

The joke phase is over, Blade!

But yes, Ulti might as well have been host confirmed last game.

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wallmasterz
05/01/24 1:25:18 PM
#309:


Meow1000 posted...
Really the argument is you're on the sidelines.

That post doesn't change the argument.

And I cant be arsed to give a recap to someone who has not read the game and takes every little thing either in 1) bad faith as scum or 2) head too far up their own ass.

No one gets to skip 75% of a mafia day and tell anyone else theyre sitting on the sidelines. Thats shitty. I see no reason for the lynch to be anyone other than Knightz, and its a dead horse beaten ten times over.

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Enchantress
05/01/24 1:25:30 PM
#310:


Votals
[4] Knightz - (Taco/Mzero), (Taco/Mzero), (Ulti), (Ulti), Taco/Mzero, Wallz, (Ulti), Isquen, FD
[4] Wallz - Ben, (Ulti), Corrik, (Ctes), Chang, Blade
[2] Chang - (Peaf), (Ulti), MI, Knightz
[1] FD - (Ulti), Red, (Chang), (Taco/Mzero),(Lopen), (Ulti)
[1] Red - (FD), Peaf
[1] Blade - (Sbell), (Lopen), (Ulti), Sbell
[0] Kirby - (Peaf), (Ulti), (Sbell)
[0] Taco - (Knightz), (Ulti), (Fd), (Lopen)
[0] Sbell - (Lopen), (Taco/Mzero), (Blade), (Taco/Mzero), (Red), (Kirby)
[0] Ben - (Lopen)
[0] Ctes- (Ulti), (Wallz), (MI)
[0] Ulti- (Lopen)
[0] Isquen - (Kirby)
[0] Lopen - (Kirby)
[0] Death - (Taco/Mzero), (Ulti)
[0] MI - (IGCD), (Knightz)

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. Day ends May 1st at 6 PM EST

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TotallyNotMI
05/01/24 1:27:06 PM
#311:


I missed that Knightz followed me onto Chang.

Part of me feels like Chang could be defending Knightz but would Knightz be someone who could vote a teammate as a new player.

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wallmasterz
05/01/24 1:29:35 PM
#312:


Lea, I believe Im tied with Knightz.

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changmas
05/01/24 1:29:56 PM
#313:


Enchantress posted...
[3] Wallz - Ben, (Ulti), Corrik, (Ctes), Chang, Blade

4?

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wallmasterz
05/01/24 1:31:27 PM
#314:


TotallyNotMI posted...
I missed that Knightz followed me onto Chang.

Part of me feels like Chang could be defending Knightz but would Knightz be someone who could vote a teammate as a new player.

I have wondered the same thing. While I dont think Chang has shown himself to be town at all, blatantly trying to shift the lynch off Knightz as scum/scum seems the less likely scenario imo.

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TotallyNotMI
05/01/24 1:32:57 PM
#315:


I guess I need to do a re-read of Wallz. I didn't love him at the start of the game but he's seemed a bit better to me since then.

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Meow1000
05/01/24 1:33:42 PM
#316:


Oh I had no idea my vote was a 4th vote on Wallz because votals weren't updated yet.

Damnit I thought I was leading a valiant charge to smite the evildoer.

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Meow1000
05/01/24 1:37:25 PM
#317:


[1] FD - (Ulti), Red, (Chang), (Taco/Mzero),(Lopen), (Ulti)
[1] Red - (FD), Peaf

Why are these votes a thing

Is it just "Because Red"?

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 1:40:16 PM
#318:


Red is apparently terrible at communicating, so i voted him based upon the poor information he provided about how "around" he was going to be that first evening.

He immediately countervoted me and said it was because I wasn't paying attention (i was) and then later said it was because my vote was badly reasoned (it wasn't). We argued for about an hour before I went to bed, at which point everyone woke up and declared red obv town (for some reason).

I still don't understand it, except that I think I was wrong and red was right.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 1:40:38 PM
#319:


Wait, that's backwards

I was right and red was wrong.

Dammit

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TotallyNotMI
05/01/24 1:40:58 PM
#320:


Okay I actually liked wallz more on my re-read than I thought I did, but there wasn't a whole lot of reads in them either

Wallz, can you give me like, 2 scum/2 town reads and why?

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ItzKnightz
05/01/24 1:41:37 PM
#321:


Reds wrong.
I remember you getting frustrated at him and going to bed.

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changmas
05/01/24 1:43:17 PM
#323:


Meow1000 posted...
[1] FD - (Ulti), Red, (Chang), (Taco/Mzero),(Lopen), (Ulti)
[1] Red - (FD), Peaf

Why are these votes a thing

Is it just "Because Red"?

speaking for the FD votes. Last game, FD acted as like, the arbiter of logic. remonstrating on No Lynch, insisting on making the safest, most risk averse play.

This game he totally flipped and started attacking red for 15+ posts about the semantics of a particular phrase "read back." Then a random account made in 2001 invaded the game and made a completely nonsense post and FD took it extremely serious and went on for multiple posts about it actually being Taco's alt account preparing a fake claim.

It was all very strange and out of character

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 1:43:28 PM
#324:


ItzKnightz posted...
Reds wrong.
I remember you getting frustrated at him and going to bed.

And where have you been? You still have the most votes, how do you feel about Wallz and Chang?

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ItzKnightz
05/01/24 1:44:56 PM
#325:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
And where have you been? You still have the most votes, how do you feel about Wallz and Chang?
I have been doing my shchoolwork for the day
Wallz feels like town
Chang feels like overconfident scum

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Meow1000
05/01/24 1:46:14 PM
#326:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
I still don't understand it, except that I think I was wrong and red was right.
Soooooo

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 1:47:18 PM
#327:


changmas posted...
a completely nonsense post

that "nonsense" coincided with several words that resembled a description of Leonard's flavor, the flavor that Taco had JUST claimed.

changmas posted...
This game he totally flipped and started attacking red for 15+ posts about the semantics of a particular phrase "read back.

This is NOT what happened. The "semantics" were entirely on his end, MY point was that red appeared to have returned, only to vanish again after saying hi to MI. It was HIS semantics that his badly worded post about D&D meant that he was going to ignore the first 3 pages and then kinda, somewhat, but not really pay attention (when he felt like it) to the next 5 pages.

You are mischaracterizing things that I was incredibly clear about in the moment and I am not having it.

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red13n
05/01/24 1:47:43 PM
#328:


You were literally misreading tense in words I posted and blaming me for it.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 1:48:08 PM
#329:


Meow1000 posted...
Soooooo

I was typing too quickly -_-

But if you read the final 50~ posts of topic 1 you'll have no choice but to agree with me.

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TotallyNotMI
05/01/24 1:48:40 PM
#330:


Wow red out of nowhere to just rehash this argument

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Meow1000
05/01/24 1:48:57 PM
#331:


Holy crap Red summoning

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Meow1000
05/01/24 1:49:26 PM
#332:


I just laughed so much it made me cough I needed that

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red13n
05/01/24 1:49:33 PM
#333:


I'm nothing if not petty.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 1:50:15 PM
#334:


red13n posted...
You were literally misreading tense in words I posted and blaming me for it.

OH YOU'RE HERE

What happened was I was VERY CLEAR about what I thought your posts meant, and rather than making ANY effort to clarify you did jack shit about it. You made a post that SEEMED to indicate you would not be paying attention during your session, then you showed up SEVERAL TIMES with gaps in between and had a post that said "I've been around" which TO ME sounded along the lines of you saying you were back now, only to disappear again.

Fuck i'm not going to be gaslit about this, just don't talk to me anymore red.

Do something productive this game because you have been coasting on our 1 argument and doing nothing else.

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changmas
05/01/24 1:50:22 PM
#335:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
that "nonsense" coincided with several words that resembled a description of Leonard's flavor, the flavor that Taco had JUST claimed.

no it didn't

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red13n
05/01/24 1:50:36 PM
#336:


How am I supposed to know you cant read I generally think pretty highly of you FD.

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TotallyNotMI
05/01/24 1:50:39 PM
#337:


Yes I would like a post from red that doesn't have anything to do with FD

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Meow1000
05/01/24 1:51:28 PM
#338:


Knightz you should probably just like... Actually claim or something.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 1:51:29 PM
#339:


red13n posted...
How am I supposed to know you cant read I generally think pretty highly of you FD.

I'm not talking to you. DO SOMETHING.

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Meow1000
05/01/24 1:51:48 PM
#340:


red13n posted...
I'm nothing if not petty.
True!

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red13n
05/01/24 1:51:50 PM
#341:


Oh no FD wont talk to me whatever will I do.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/01/24 1:52:13 PM
#342:


Nothing, apparently.

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red13n
05/01/24 1:52:38 PM
#343:


TotallyNotMI posted...
Yes I would like a post from red that doesn't have anything to do with FD
Death is probably fine.

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red13n
05/01/24 1:53:08 PM
#344:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Nothing, apparently.
I woke up unwillingly. I'm tired and grumpy. I don't know what you are expecting here.

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changmas
05/01/24 1:53:13 PM
#345:


red13n posted...
Death is probably fine.

how about wallz

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Meow1000
05/01/24 1:54:02 PM
#346:


red13n posted...
I woke up unwillingly. I'm tired and grumpy. I don't know what you are expecting here.
Waking up unwillingly sounds ominous

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red13n
05/01/24 1:55:30 PM
#347:


changmas posted...
how about wallz
wallz is kind of angry.

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Corrik7
05/01/24 1:55:53 PM
#348:


Is wallz and death claimed yet

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PeaceFrog
05/01/24 1:59:57 PM
#349:


Chang, Ulti, Wallz, fd, and sbell are town.

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wallmasterz
05/01/24 2:00:09 PM
#350:


TotallyNotMI posted...
Okay I actually liked wallz more on my re-read than I thought I did, but there wasn't a whole lot of reads in them either

Wallz, can you give me like, 2 scum/2 town reads and why?

Not going to include Knightz or Taco.

Town: Isquen, Peaf
Scum: Chang, Corrik

Peafs vibes are the towniest of anyones imo. I havent always agreed with his reasoning (I think he called Ulti town because of Lopen vanishing, which I disagree with) but his posts have all screamed sincerity. Isquen has regrettably little content but I highly doubt he comes in with that idgaf attitude as scum. Isquen didnt give a shit, and it was obvious.

Chang has been around but not done much. It feels like hes trying not to rock the boat until now all of a sudden taking a big stance on lynching someone other than Knightz. Even though thats ballsy as hell if scum/scum, I do think its possible. If knightz flips scum, Chang can easily go why would I stick my neck out for Knightz if Im scum too? etc.

Corrik almost never shows up for day 1. Hes popping up, calling himself confirmed and voting me without context. Obviously no one else knows Im town but looking back I think is opportunistic after early pressure on me, and not everyone who suspected me early can be scum. Corrik was late to that party but cant cite a reason for joining the mislynch train.

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