Board 8 > Community Mafia Topic 9 - Therapeutical Applications of Nooses

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Meow1000 posted...

Ben did more in more a post with one sentence to advance a train that isn't Corrik than Peaf (who's calling Corrik town) has all day.

He's just better than me i guess

I would like to say though that vote stripping is an extremely strong power to the point where it has become rare. Most scumteams will not reveal they have this kind of power at all before it becomes an instant wincon very late in the game. I find it curious that it's apparently now been inflicted twice on a player that feels chosen at random.

Also, having the power to strip votes (apparently for multiple days) and the power to apparently remove a player during the day (Lopen) seems completely broken for a scumteam to have.

Something's up here and I'm not sure what it is.

Like I remember there was a game Crescent played in (FFXIV I think?) where MZero was town that could make himself "disappear" from the game and come back later. It is the only instance I know of in which such a role existence.

Ben or MZero should be able to verify if that's accurate though.

PeaceFrog posted...

And let's remember that the only players without votes down on scum at eod1 were me, red, ctes, Sbell, igcd, and Knightz. So picking within that pile isn't a bad idea!

That some solid shade being thrown my way lol

Oh right. Yeah you would have had a vote down if not for gfax limitations.

I was just trying to be thorough! But i agree that having your name in that list follows the letter of the law and not the spirit.

Meow1000 posted...

I would like to say though that vote stripping is an extremely strong power to the point where it has become rare. Most scumteams will not reveal they have this kind of power at all before it becomes an instant wincon very late in the game. I find it curious that it's apparently now been inflicted twice on a player that feels chosen at random.

Also, having the power to strip votes (apparently for multiple days) and the power to apparently remove a player during the day (Lopen) seems completely broken for a scumteam to have.

Something's up here and I'm not sure what it is.

Right, that's why I wanted to first confirm it's actually happened on consecutive days and not simply take ctes' word for it.

Odd that it would be an every night ability and also odd that it would be used twice in a row on the same person.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Night 1 I confirmed ctes, night 2 I confirmed Death.

If town keeps me alive, we win. Simple as.

Confirmed... how?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Night 1 I confirmed ctes, night 2 I confirmed Death.

If town keeps me alive, we win. Simple as.

You really want that on the list? Because I'll need a flavor/role and actual list of results then. I'd have just as soon not called any additional attention to you since I think I know what you're doing and I wanted it to succeed :shrug:

ISQUENFEAR aw yeah

It doesn't go into the sheet until it's been properly claimed then, which I'm fine with, just don't expect me to take your word as gospel.

what if there is no doctor lel

changmas posted...

what if there is no doctor lel

Only Zuul

UltimaterializerX posted...

Look at this role fishing lmao

Sorry I annihilated your team day 1 man. Nothing you could do given how the RNG decided things.

What

Jailkeeper is doctor in all likelihood.

Forgive me for having some healthy godfather fear on death until a gf flips. He has been so reluctant to give much of anything at all.

But i will get off his back for now.

Ulti isn't even necessarily claiming an inno scan, but we'll just set Ulti's info aside for now anyways I think.

PeaceFrog posted...

Forgive me for having some healthy godfather fear on death until a gf flips. He has been so reluctant to give much of anything at all.

But i will get off his back for now.

I have godfather fear on Mr. "I've lost my vote twice".

Sacrifice your own vote X number of times to unlock a scumpower?

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Sacrifice your own vote X number of times to unlock a scumpower?

More like "hey let's use this power that's completely provable and harmless early game on our own guy"

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Sacrifice your own vote X number of times to unlock a scumpower?

i wonder if mzero could redirect such a power if that's the case

That would actually be an incredible use of Taunt, but now scum could just target MZero for vote removal to frame whoever MZero happens to target tonight >_>

PeaceFrog posted...

Forgive me for having some healthy godfather fear on death until a gf flips. He has been so reluctant to give much of anything at all.

But i will get off his back for now.

I would be surprised if corrik flips anything but godfather if he flips scum.

Leafeon13N posted...

I would be surprised if corrik flips anything but godfather if he flips scum.

Godfather doesn't (or at least shouldn't) play the way Corrik has because no one's going to trust the scan anyway

Meow1000 posted...

Godfather doesn't (or at least shouldn't) play the way Corrik has because no one's going to trust the scan anyway

Yeah but corrik is the type to spout off about being scanned as godfather. Ulti would do the same thing.

Pretty sure just about anyone would in that position. What's your point

If Ulti is claiming what I think he's claiming good god

Meow1000 posted...

If Ulti is claiming what I think he's claiming good god

I have no idea what he is claiming

Anyway I'm thinking scum completely wasted on Lopen (why Lopen wtf) what should've been used on Ulti and dropping it there.

Still finding it very odd that Peaf still won't pressure Red at all now that Red has two votes on him

I do like that we're discussing alternative lynches.

However, I don't think it's a good idea to let Corrik go free today. His actions don't make sense as any alignment, and the "town Corrik does this all the time" logic might just be something a scum Corrik would bank on in order to skate by.

I don't think it's wise to lynch anyone but Corrik today. I just want to make sure we're all on the same page there. We need to resolve whether his tomfoolery was genuine or faked to appear towny.

PeaceFrog posted...

Pretty sure just about anyone would in that position. What's your point

Not about actually being scanned.

I mean the "I totally got scanned you cant lynch me" with no evidence of actually being scanned.

Meow1000 posted...

Like I remember there was a game Crescent played in (FFXIV I think?) where MZero was town that could make himself "disappear" from the game and come back later. It is the only instance I know of in which such a role existence.

Ben or MZero should be able to verify if that's accurate though.

Yeah I could disappear for one day and came back the following day

No one has pointed to any interaction with the scum and been like "oh look red is scum".

In fact most of you have had the opposite interpretations.

Scum equity on me is pretty much zero and I find the votes borderline insulting, tbh.

red13n posted...

No one has pointed to any interaction with the scum and been like "oh look red is scum".

Did you have interaction with the scum?

Or virtually anyone but me?

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Did you have interaction with the scum?

Or virtually anyone but me?

Yes, actually.

feel free to quote some then, otherwise i'll look into it in the morning.

Isn't this thought

Meow1000 posted...

Also, having the power to strip votes (apparently for multiple days) and the power to apparently remove a player during the day (Lopen) seems completely broken for a scumteam to have.

a bit at clash with this thought?:

Meow1000 posted...

More like "hey let's use this power that's completely provable and harmless early game on our own guy"

rerereading a bit of wallz content. Don't know how far i'll get.

But I don't believe from early on that blade/sbell/wallz could be a scumtrio. So that would eliminate any current alive pair of blade/sbell.

I don't doubt blades ability to bus his entire team for fun or whatever, that pair feels unlikely.

Honestly, just game meta, with so few people claiming actions that move at night, I want to say I trust blade as town. Not with absolutely certainty because not enough is on the board, but I have him in a place with reasonable probability as town.

Ulti: Confirmed town in my book
Blade: Probably town
You: Most likely town
Wallz: quirky but most likely town
IGCD: Probably town
FD: Quirky, don't know what to make of it
Kirby: Probably town
Taco: Most likely Scum
Lopen: Don't know what to make of it

I'm sure people have posted this from knightz. Sat thinking on this a bit. My mind does not want to believe that knightz would flip two scummates to town and call both quirky.

I might be over or underestimating him. I have less confidence in this than the aforementioned blade faith. But I think it gives FD a bit of a reprieve in my mind.

Calling ulti confirmed town is pretty drastic too. Knightz is still a bit of a wild card in my brain, so at least with things he probably put a bit of time on I wouldn't argue anything with absolute certainty. But this also moves Ulti further to town in my mind. Probably more likely than the confidence I give FD(on my sheet I currently have ulti bunched up with blade in confidence level).

Kirby321 posted...

I do like that we're discussing alternative lynches.

However, I don't think it's a good idea to let Corrik go free today. His actions don't make sense as any alignment, and the "town Corrik does this all the time" logic might just be something a scum Corrik would bank on in order to skate by.

I don't think it's wise to lynch anyone but Corrik today. I just want to make sure we're all on the same page there. We need to resolve whether his tomfoolery was genuine or faked to appear towny.

If I didn't know you are town, I'd think you are scum.

"Need to make sure we are all on the same page"

No one says this. You vote for who you think is scum and so does everyone else and whoever has the most votes is removed.

It looks like you want to be among the crowd regarding things.

Whats the point of that post, Corrik?

3. Chang
8. IGCD
9. Kirby
6. Death
14. Mzero (Replaced Taco)

2. Blade
15. Ulti

7. FD

10. MI
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1. Ben
4. Corrik
5. Ctes
11. Peaf
13. Sbell

This is how my PoE looks like atm. Top list grouped confidence, most to least. Order in groups is not sorted. MI not with much confidence, his posts -feel- like town in context but nothing screams hard read at all.