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Doe 05/06/24 12:22:04 AM #1: |
Excerpt starts at 19:22 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V92PzA6eEyM
Transcript: https://www.state.gov/secretary-antony-j-blinken-at-mccain-institutes-2024-sedona-forum-keynote-conversation-with-senator-mitt-romney/ SENATOR ROMNEY: Why has the PR been so awful? I know thats not your area of expertise, but you have to have some thoughts on that, which is, I mean, as youve said, why has Hamas disappeared in terms of public perception? An offer is on the table to have a ceasefire, and yet the world is screaming about Israel. Its like, why are they not screaming about Hamas? Accept the ceasefire and bring home the hostages. Instead, its all the other way around. I mean, typically the Israelis are good at PR. Whats happened here? How have they how have they/ and we/ been so ineffective at communicating the realities there and our point of view?Of course, this dialogue itself is a piece of propaganda since Netanyahu just admitted he refuses not to invade Rafah regardless of any hostage deal: https://www.npr.org/2024/04/30/1248276817/israel-invade-gaza-rafah-hostage-deal-netanyahu --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 05/06/24 12:22:40 AM #2: |
So why dont they also ban facebook or reddit or twitter or youtube
i still think its because they want that sweet sweet personal info to sell back to china --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 05/06/24 12:23:36 AM #3: |
_____Cait posted...
So why dont they also ban facebook or reddit or twitter or youtube If you look at the postings on TikTok and the number of mentions of Palestinians relative to other social media sites, its overwhelmingly so among TikTok broadcasts --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CADE_FOSTER 05/06/24 12:28:47 AM #4: |
They cant control Tiktok they can ask the others to be pro Israel no matter what ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 05/06/24 12:32:08 AM #5: |
_____Cait posted...
So why dont they also ban facebook or reddit or twitter or youtube Because Twitter is literally controlled by a child minded racist. --- Biden is the greatest President ever. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 05/06/24 12:34:28 AM #6: |
cjsdowg posted...
Because Twitter is literally controlled by a child minded racist. so it would be easy to manipulate those people. --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ooger 05/06/24 12:46:26 AM #7: |
Ritt Momney
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ForsakenHermit 05/06/24 1:03:17 AM #8: |
They've been talking about banning tiktok for much longer than the war in Gaza has been going on.
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Zikten 05/06/24 1:11:28 AM #9: |
ForsakenHermit posted... They've been talking about banning tiktok for much longer than the war in Gaza has been going on.Didn't it start when tik tokkers trolled Trump by signing up for seats at a rally and then not coming. So that he had a bunch of empty chairs on live tv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ironman2009 05/06/24 1:12:33 AM #10: |
Zikten posted...
Didn't it start when tik tokkers trolled Trump by signing up for seats at a rally and then not coming. So that he had a bunch of empty chairs on live tv lol really? i've never heard of that, but that's great. --- THRILLHO ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Snip-N-Snails 05/06/24 6:44:59 AM #11: |
ForsakenHermit posted...
They've been talking about banning tiktok for much longer than the war in Gaza has been going on.Republicans but not Democrats, at least not nearly as much. --- #BLM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DuuuDe14 05/06/24 6:49:11 AM #12: |
https://youtu.be/bxch-yi14BE?si=kU1aFbKRK1CrVcg3
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DnDer 05/06/24 7:04:15 AM #13: |
cjsdowg posted...
Because Twitter is literally controlled by a child minded racist. Not just a chid-minded racist, but a nazi ally who said he was going to re-platform Trump's Thanksgiving nazi Nick Fuentes to the platform. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 05/06/24 7:18:22 AM #14: |
Doesnt the idea of banning Tic-Tok predate the Oct. 7 attack?
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cjsdowg 05/06/24 7:32:10 AM #15: |
mustachedmystic posted...
Doesnt the idea of banning Tic-Tok predate the Oct. 7 attack?Republicans were all for it now dems are pushing for it. --- Biden is the greatest President ever. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 05/06/24 7:40:55 AM #16: |
_____Cait posted...
So why dont they also ban facebook or reddit or twitter or youtubeBecause TikTok is mostly zoomers who tend to be again Israel. Twitter and Facebook are rightwings mostly. No one gives a fuck about Reddit because it's the smallest demographic by far --- See profile pic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheater87 05/06/24 7:48:37 AM #17: |
Everyone knew this was what it was all about.
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Prismsblade 05/06/24 8:20:58 AM #18: |
_____Cait posted...
So why dont they also ban facebook or reddit or twitter or youtubeIts a lot smaller and doesn't seem to be anti Israel or at least as much as tik tok. Which is all the government cares about frankly. Something Im surprised people havent started to catch onto yet. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkace77450 05/06/24 8:28:32 AM #19: |
Look, I mean, there are two things. One is that, look, there is an inescapable reality, and that is the inescapable reality of people who have and continue to suffer grievously in Gaza. And thats real and we have to have to be focused on that and attentive to that. It took seven months, but Blinken's finally starting to get it. At the same time, how this narrative has evolved, yeah, its a great question. I dont have a good answer to that. One can speculate about what some of the causes might be. Or maybe not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 05/06/24 9:10:20 AM #20: |
_____Cait posted... So why dont they also ban facebook or reddit or twitter or youtube Facebook radicalizes boomers into conservative camp. Reddit not sure as it has varying info. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 05/06/24 9:15:07 AM #21: |
Its not even an immediate ban right?
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Bat178 05/06/24 9:19:08 AM #22: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Its not even an immediate ban right?Yeah, Tiktok have 9 to 12 months to sell to a US buyer before it goes into effect. --- "2001 called, it wants it's message board signature back....." - aarrgus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ooger 05/06/24 9:22:18 AM #23: |
At the moment, Bytedance has said they won't sell.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c289n8m4j19o.amp If they change their minds, I'm betting Oracle will try to buy them since Oracle currently hosts TikTok's data in the US. --- This signature is not political. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheFuzz3451 05/06/24 9:41:55 AM #24: |
ForsakenHermit posted...
They've been talking about banning tiktok for much longer than the war in Gaza has been going on. It's not the ultimate cause for the ban but I do think all of the footage of the horrors inflicted on Gaza was a factor that renewed interest among Congress. So it might have been enough to get it over the hurdle, so to speak. --- Yes we're being condescending Yes that means we're talking down to you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 05/06/24 9:47:09 AM #25: |
TheFuzz3451 posted... It's not the ultimate cause for the ban but I do think all of the footage of the horrors inflicted on Gaza was a factor that renewed interest among Congress. So it might have been enough to get it over the hurdle, so to speak. All the republicans wanted to ban it since Trump's term. They are the party of "those darn kids!" anyways. Probably this whole mess helped convince democrats and Biden to side with it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 05/06/24 9:50:15 AM #26: |
It's no different than the constant footage of the Vietnam war turning proving to the people that the government was full of shit about how the war was going.
In the last 30 years the rise in independent journalism has shown exactly what the Israelis have been doing to the Palestinians. It's hard to have good PR when you are proven over and over to be fucking lying. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-ZIO- 05/06/24 9:51:43 AM #27: |
Who's the politician who basically came right out and said what the whole banning of tik tok was about? The one who said that this isn't about left or right, it's a generational thing of young vs old and they're losing the eyes of the youth. The can't effectively propagandize the youth.
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Aloc 05/06/24 10:56:35 AM #28: |
-ZIO- posted...
Who's the politician who basically came right out and said what the whole banning of tik tok was about? The one who said that this isn't about left or right, it's a generational thing of young vs old and they're losing the eyes of the youth. The can't effectively propagandize the youth.That was Greenblatt. He's not a politician. --- Aloc will now post in PG or try ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 05/06/24 11:05:07 AM #29: |
"They're stealing our data"
"2016 and Cambridge Analytica exists" "Well, you're not allowed to be pro Palestine" "What about the data talking point?" "Shut up, you're Hamas!" --- lolAmerica ... Copied to Clipboard!
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superbot400 05/06/24 11:08:26 AM #30: |
mustachedmystic posted...
Doesnt the idea of banning Tic-Tok predate the Oct. 7 attack?Yes. People forgot that USA ban Huewei, ZTE devices in the USA in the Trump years. There are strong precident to do the same with TikTok. --- http://spinsulin.freeforums.org/the-fantastic-four-respect-thread-t4436.html, my huge ass respect thread. You won't see it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 05/06/24 11:50:27 AM #31: |
IDK why a couple people are acting like the topic title isn't true when the quotation from Romney from state.gov is bolded in the OP. The government can and often does have multiple reasons it wants to ban something. What is true is that before 10/7 there was not sufficient will to get a TikTok ban actually passed and now they successfully did it.
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LightHawKnight 05/06/24 11:56:11 AM #32: |
Doe posted...
IDK why a couple people are acting like the topic title isn't true when the quotation from Romney from state.gov is bolded in the OP. The government can and often does have multiple reasons it wants to ban something. What is true is that before 10/7 there was not sufficient will to get a TikTok ban actually passed and now they successfully did it. Still confused on how it can control the narratives about Israel when the ban doesnt actually ban TikTok right at this moment, but forces them to sell to a US company and they have over 9 months to do it. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bobbycorwin 05/06/24 12:06:10 PM #33: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Still confused on how it can control the narratives about Israel when the ban doesnt actually ban TikTok right at this moment, but forces them to sell to a US company and they have over 9 months to do it. Ever since the GOP had Viktor Orbon of Turkey speak at CPAC about how he took over the media there, Ive been looking for ways in which conservatives would try that here. Since then, Twitter got bought by a right winger and signal boosted right wing accounts while banning accounts he doesnt like. The Tik Tok ban would be another step of this, and of course they get to use the Israel conflict as a pretense for it. So that would explain your point of how would this help Israel if then ban doesnt go into affect until next year, but it would line up nicely with the result if the 2024 election. --- People are lazy. With television you just sit-watch-listen. The thinking is done for you. A Plan for Putting the GOP on TV News - Roger Ailes, Fox News founder ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 05/06/24 12:06:31 PM #34: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Still confused on how it can control the narratives about Israel when the ban doesnt actually ban TikTok right at this moment, but forces them to sell to a US company and they have over 9 months to do it. A company that would do what thenus wants them to do. And if was about data protection they would have gone after all of them. --- Biden is the greatest President ever. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 05/06/24 12:35:13 PM #35: |
Anyone who truly believes the Tiktok ban was about national security probably routinely clicks phishing links
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whitelytning 05/06/24 12:38:41 PM #36: |
mustachedmystic posted...
Doesnt the idea of banning Tic-Tok predate the Oct. 7 attack? Yes. The title of this thread is a mischaracterization too. None of it makes sense. Twisting reality to fit a chosen narrative. --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 05/06/24 12:50:38 PM #37: |
whitelytning posted...
The title of this thread is a mischaracterization too. None of it makes sense. Twisting reality to fit a chosen narrative.Dog how can you post like this when the text, source and video are all there in the OP --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aloc 05/07/24 4:26:31 AM #38: |
Doe posted...
Dog how can you post like this when the text, source and video are all there in the OPLol --- Aloc will now post in PG or try ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ForsakenHermit 05/07/24 4:29:50 AM #39: |
bobbycorwin posted...
Ever since the GOP had Viktor Orbon of Turkey speak at CPAC about how he took over the media there, Ive been looking for ways in which conservatives would try that here. Since then, Twitter got bought by a right winger and signal boosted right wing accounts while banning accounts he doesnt like.Orban's Hungarian not Turkish. --- Beware the fanatic! Too often his cure is deadlier by far than the evil he denounces!-Stan Lee RIP Make Arcades Great Again! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hornezz 05/07/24 4:32:06 AM #40: |
Romney wasn't the first to make this point
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Cynrascal 05/07/24 6:13:18 AM #41: |
Oh look! Republicans saying the quiet part loud again.
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Snip-N-Snails 05/07/24 7:30:55 AM #42: |
LightHawKnight posted...
Still confused on how it can control the narratives about Israel when the ban doesnt actually ban TikTok right at this moment, but forces them to sell to a US company and they have over 9 months to do it.It originally was going to be a lot sooner, before the elections (one of their most common stated reasons was that they "didn't want foreign agents to influence the election") but was repeatedly pushed back. At this point they've already went far enough they just want it to go through. --- #BLM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bobbycorwin 05/07/24 9:30:45 AM #43: |
ForsakenHermit posted...
Orban's Hungarian not Turkish. Thanks, somehow got those wires crossed in my head. --- People are lazy. With television you just sit-watch-listen. The thinking is done for you. A Plan for Putting the GOP on TV News - Roger Ailes, Fox News founder ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkace77450 05/07/24 10:15:30 AM #44: |
Hornezz posted... Romney wasn't the first to make this point undermining our democratic values. Now if youll join me in voting to ban TikTok, we can quash this freedom of speech thing for young Americans who arent falling in line. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 05/07/24 10:39:21 AM #45: |
That was the entire point that through TikTok China possessed and had used the capability to push whatever propaganda it felt was most divisive.
Coincidentally Russia has done the same thing only through more nefarious methods. The point though is if this were a legitimate situation where this was just a company and the Chinese government had no stake then they would divest and spin it off to satisfy their investors and get a nice payday. But they wont. --- Moustache twirling villain https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 05/07/24 10:43:44 AM #46: |
The tik tok ban started when trump got embarrassed at his juneteenth Tulsa rally. Before then, not a peep from anyone about banning tiktok. Soon after, trump signed an executive order banning it, that amounted to nothing and republicans have tried everything to do so. After October 7th, democrats joined the fight to ban it.
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ScazarMeltex 05/07/24 10:47:39 AM #47: |
This is also the same reason Musk bought Twitter. Too much free flow of information to people during the George Floyd BLM protests. Watching the cops lose their minds and cause the violence everywhere they showed up turned a ton of people permanently to the ACAB camp.
As opposed to the mainstream legacy media accounts that left all the shit the cops out. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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crayola555 05/07/24 11:01:56 AM #48: |
Nooo, tikTok needs to be banned cause China!!! They be collecting data about my new twerk dancing and sending them back to ccp, cause you know......chinese people really care about my new twerking dances...
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