Board 8 > What four visual novels belong on the Visual Novels Mount Rushmore? +TIEBREAKER

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ZenOfThunder
05/06/24 6:37:42 PM
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Which of these Mexican Foods deserves the fourth spot on the Mexican Foods Mount Rushmore? - Results (62 votes)
Nachos
46.77% (29 votes)
29
Quesadillas
30.65% (19 votes)
19
Tamales
22.58% (14 votes)
14
This poll is now closed.
Discussion Topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80708068 (if you want to complain about this topic series do it here and not in the current topic)

Rules: If you list more than 4 things I'm gonna just tally the first 4 you say. If you list the same character multiple times it won't count. Be nice. Don't shove your personal definition of "Mount Rushmore" down others' throats. Have fun. If you're going to majorly change a vote please quote your old vote to make it easier for me.

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Visual Novel-specific-rules: I don't play these that often, so if you are going to make a joke vote or a troll vote, I won't get the humor!

THIS IS NOT SERIES, YOU NEED TO VOTE FOR A SPECIFIC GAME

Please DO NOT USE ABBREVIATIONS AND EXPECT THAT I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! People do this more often than you think but it's usually fine because I have some knowledge of the subject. Assume I know nothing about VNs! (VN is short for "Visual Novel," I know that one).

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Reference Links:
https://tiermaker.com/categories/video-games/150-visual-novels-96031
https://gamerant.com/best-visual-novels-steam/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_novel#List_of_best-selling_visual_novels
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/top10/2781-the-top-10-visual-novels-as-voted-by-the-r-visualnovels

PREVIOUS RESULTS:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uCR-viOTP-yKhRZnTyvaoXj7teKRA12gz7m-1rfmhoY/ (Sheet 1)
Contest Upsets: Cloud > Link, Knuckles > Magus, Starcraft > Halo, Vivi > Mario
Game Shows: Jeopardy!, Wheel of Fortune, Price is Right, Millionaire
Non-Political Americans: Michael Jordan,Tony Hawk, Jim Henson, Fred Rogers
Least Horny Video Games: The Flowers of Robert Mapplethorpe, DOA X-Treme Beach Volleyball, Pong, Solitaire
Video Game Hub Worlds: Peach's Castle, The Normandy, Gruntilda's Lair, Station Square
Pixar: Toy Story, Incredibles, WALL-E, Finding Nemo
Beatles Songs: Hey Jude, Yesterday, I Want to Hold Your Hand, Let It Be
Video Game Consoles: NES, PS2, PS1, SNES
Hot Sandwich: Cheesesteak, Grilled Cheese, Cheese/burger, Meatball Sub
Difficult Boss Battles: Mike Tyson, Sans, Malenia, Sephiroth (KH)
Non-American Movie Directors: Kurosawa, Hitchcock, Bergman, del Toro
Dog Breeds: Golden Retriever, German Shepherd, Labrador Retriever, Shiba Inu
MCU: Iron Man 1, Avengers 1, Endgame, Guardians 1
Bad Contests: Best Year in Gaming, Rivals, Series, CBIX
Arcade Games: Pac-Man, DDR, SFII, Donkey Kong
Fighting Games: SFII, Melee, MK '92, Tekken 3
Star Wars Games: KotOR, Battlefront II ('05), Jedi Fallen Order, LEGO Star Wars
Mexican Foods: Tacos, Burritos, Enchiladas, TIEBREAKER GO VOTE

YESTERDAY: Espero que todos hayan tenido un gran Da de Star Wars y un gran Cinco de Mayo! Gracias al usuario Seanchan por organizar el Monte Rushmore del Da de Star Wars mientras estaba indispuesto. Seanchan, te has ganado la codiciada etiqueta "Zen Jr".

Tuvimos una carrera muy reida por el cuarto lugar en Mexican Food Mount Rushmore. No esperaba que se mantuviera el empate a tres bandas. No inclu los votos para las bebidas. No s por qu hice eso, pero ninguna bebida obtuvo ms de 1 voto, as que lo que sea. Donde est la biblioteca?

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I will catch up on the AI backlog at some point, I have been a bit busy

UPCOMING RUSHMORES (nominations welcome):
5/7/24 Fictional Teachers (Teacher Appreciation Day Special)
5/8/24 Point-and-Click Adventure Games
5/9/24 American Chain Restaurants
5/10/24 Sitcom Moms (Mother's Day Special)
5/11/24 ZEN IS VISTING HIS MOM
5/12/24 ZEN IS VISTING HIS MOM
5/13/24 SBAllen's Many Crimes
5/14/24 Video Game Commercials
5/15/24 Family Guy Episodes (Int'l Family Day)
5/16/24 Metroidvanias
5/17/24 Webcomics
5/18/24 Horror Movie Villains
5/19/24 Games that Didn't Hold Up
5/20/24 Roguelike Games
5/21/24 Bad Songs
5/22/24 Celebrity Chefs
5/23/24 Disney Movies (Canon)
5/24/24 Video Games (4-day long special)
5/25/24 ZEN'S BIRTHDAY BREAK
5/26/24 ZEN'S BIRTHDAY BREAK
5/27/24 ZEN'S BIRTHDAY BREAK
5/28/24 Sonic the Hedgehog Games (Zen's Birthday Present)
5/29/24 Fictional Evil Companies
5/30/24 Looney Tunes
5/31/24 Video Game Controllers
6/1/24 Fictional Queer Couples (Pride Month special)
6/2/24 Mega Man Robot Masters
6/3/24 Fictional Detectives
6/4/24 Ubisoft Games
6/5/24 Nick Jr. Shows
6/6/24 Board 8 Projects
6/7/24 Shonen Jump Protagonists (lmao)
Nominations: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uCR-viOTP-yKhRZnTyvaoXj7teKRA12gz7m-1rfmhoY/ (Sheet 2)

WHILE YOU ARE VISITING BOARD 8, MAKE SURE TO PARTICIPATE IN POKEMON OF THE YEAR VOTING:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests?search=Pokemon%20of%20the%20Year

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Snake5555555555
05/06/24 6:40:24 PM
#2:


Ace Attorney
Doki Doki Literature Club!
Higurashi When They Cry
Umineko no Naku Koro ni

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ZenOfThunder
05/06/24 6:41:16 PM
#3:


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cannot believe we got the fighting games one "right"

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Janus5k
05/06/24 6:41:56 PM
#4:


Fate/Stay Night
Steins;Gate
Clannad
Umineko When They Cry

Gut reaction, probably overlooking something

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Thorn
05/06/24 6:47:52 PM
#5:


YU-NO
Fate/Stay Night
Higurashi
CLANNAD

HM: Tokimeki Memorial, Dokyusei?

idk FSN, Higurashi, and CLANNAD are basically acting as reps for some of the bigger names in VN with YU-NO as the history entry.

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05/06/24 7:00:13 PM
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Seanchan
05/06/24 7:15:20 PM
#6:


ZenOfThunder posted...
Gracias al usuario Seanchan por organizar el Monte Rushmore del Da de Star Wars mientras estaba indispuesto. Seanchan, te has ganado la codiciada etiqueta "Zen Jr".

De nada!

I cannot imagine running a daily contest like this. Every day, having to tally up the results, organize the data, get the AI images, make a post with updated results. It's like a good 30 minutes, which is a not insignificant amount of time.

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Leonhart4
05/06/24 7:28:47 PM
#7:


Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Clannad
Fate/Stay Night
Umineko no Naku Koro ni

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KamikazePotato
05/06/24 7:34:58 PM
#8:


The House in Fata Morgana
Fate/Stay Night
Doki Doki Literature Club!
Umineko no Naku Koro ni

Sticking with more 'pure' Visual Novels because the Phoenix Wright types don't really fit the spirit.

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Mythiot
05/06/24 7:37:17 PM
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Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Fate/Stay Night
Steins; Gate
Umineko: When They Cry
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Dancedreamer
05/06/24 7:38:35 PM
#10:


YU-NO
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Doki Doki Literature Club
Fate/Stay Night


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pyresword
05/06/24 7:53:06 PM
#11:


Haven't really participated in this topic series but why not

Fate/Stay Night
Steins;Gate
Umineko
Muv-Luv Alternative

I assume the intent of this contest is not to just vote for our favorites, right? Otherwise mine would look different.

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ZenOfThunder
05/06/24 8:10:33 PM
#12:


pyresword posted...
I assume the intent of this contest is not to just vote for our favorites, right? Otherwise mine would look different.

i never said this was a rule but people tend to vote for the ideal and not their favorites

the power of the Rushmore

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AriaOfBolo
05/06/24 8:12:56 PM
#13:


Tokimeki Memorial
Clannad
Fate/Stay Night
Higurashi no naku koro ni

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Underleveled
05/06/24 8:15:29 PM
#14:


KamikazePotato posted...
Sticking with more 'pure' Visual Novels because the Phoenix Wright types don't really fit the spirit.
Seconding this.

DDLC
Fate/Stay Night
Umineko
Steins;Gate

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hombad46
05/06/24 8:16:38 PM
#15:


Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney

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Johnbobb
05/06/24 8:48:19 PM
#16:


Ace Attorney
DDLC
Danganronpa
999

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skulltrumpets
05/06/24 8:53:20 PM
#17:


Fate/Stay Night
Clannad
Umineko no Naku Koro ni
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney

I debated on Ace Attorney because it isn't a pure visual novel, and I definitely understand why others don't want to include it. But I kind of like the idea on using a slot on a game that shakes the formula. Also, I just think these games are neat and I can do what I want :)
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Leonhart4
05/06/24 8:56:52 PM
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I get that Ace Attorney isn't a traditional VN, but it brought so much attention to the medium that it deserves a spot.

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ZenOfThunder
05/06/24 9:05:58 PM
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ZenOfThunder
05/06/24 9:06:45 PM
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ZenOfThunder
05/06/24 9:08:53 PM
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Anagram
05/06/24 9:23:05 PM
#22:


Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Umineko
Doki Doki Literature Club
999

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KommunistKoala
05/06/24 9:25:59 PM
#23:


Fate/Stay Night
Steins;Gate
Umineko
Doki Doki Literature Club

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Lopen
05/06/24 9:30:30 PM
#24:


Fate/Stay Night
Steins;Gate
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
G-Senjou No Maou

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Chaeix
05/06/24 9:53:54 PM
#26:


FSN
Umineko
999
Ace Attorney

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pezzicle
05/06/24 9:55:01 PM
#27:


Your bday break coincides with my birthday break

however mine extends a bit because my bday is the 29th

we are almost birthday buddies

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Bitto
05/06/24 9:59:05 PM
#28:


Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Fate/Stay Night
Doki Doki Literature Club
Clannad

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ChichiriMuyo
05/06/24 10:19:32 PM
#29:


Doki Doki Literature Club
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
Phoenix Wright
Fate/Stay Night

Difficult one, because on a different day I could potentially give an entirely different four. Also, I too struggled with the question of "is PW:AA eligible?" Considering people who I believe have more experience with the genre than I do think so, I'll go with it. If it's not eligible, add in a vote for Tokimeki Memorial.

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tcaz2
05/06/24 10:22:57 PM
#30:


Clearly not enough people have played MuvLuv on this board tbh

Fate/Stay Night
Umineko no Naku Koro ni
Clannad
MuvLuv Alternative
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Hbthebattle
05/06/24 10:43:57 PM
#31:


Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Fate/Stay Night
Umineko no Naku Koro ni
Steins;Gate

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05/06/24 10:52:11 PM
#32:


tcaz2 posted...
Clearly not enough people have played MuvLuv on this board tbh
I always vote based on fame/influence, and never personal like or dislike.

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VectorAgent
05/06/24 10:55:33 PM
#33:


Hotel Dusk: Room 215

Also, even though I have almost no experience with the genre, Ill submit a nomination for a dating simulator games Rushmore.

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MysteriousStan
05/06/24 11:09:23 PM
#34:


Fate/Stay Night
The House in Fata Morgana
Steins;Gate
Phoenix Wright
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Wanglicious
05/06/24 11:29:27 PM
#35:


Fate/Stay Night
Steins;Gate
Higurashi When They Cry
Sengoku Rance

Fate is the #1 of the genre for this.
Steins;Gate is significant enough with its anime, multiple releases including steam, and best represents that semicolon series.
Higurashi > Umineko in importance and scale, even if i like the latter way more. it's just more significant.
Rance needs an entry considering it's been going on since the 80s, represents AliceSoft, has had a ton of influence in the industry, and Sengoku is just flat out one of the most addicting games i've ever played. it's also the inspiration of a ton of games afterwards.

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Kenri
05/06/24 11:47:14 PM
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We Know the Devil
Katawa Shoujo
Analogue: A Hate Story
Highway Blossoms

okay realistically it's FSN and then three of Umineko, Clannad, Steins;gate, Muv-Luv, DDLC, etc but that's boring. and not gay enough.

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MacArrowny
05/07/24 12:17:20 AM
#37:


There's always Togainu no Chi or Dramatical Murder if you want gay VNs :p

Clannad
Fate/Stay Night
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni/When They Cry
Steins;Gate

These release a little close together for my liking - would like some stuff from the 90s, but the 2000s is when VNs were at their peak in both Japan and the West, in terms of getting adaptations, etc. Would love to have something like Rance for the 90s though. Sadly light novels and phones have mostly killed them off in modern times (though we could count Fate/Grand Order as a VN and say it's bigger than the ten most popular VNs of the 2000s combined :p).

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WhiteLens
05/07/24 12:28:28 AM
#38:


Fate/Stay Night
Steins;Gate
Doki Doki Literature Club
Umineko When They Cry (Umineko no Naku Koro ni is the same thing, just so you know)

I'll admit that I'm only putting Umineko here because it was in our Top 10 list
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/top10/2153-the-top-10-games-of-all-time-according-to-gamefaqs-contests

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05/07/24 1:20:53 AM
#39:


YU-NO
Ever17
Fate/Stay Night
Steins;Gate

much as i'd like to fit higurashi/umineko on i just don't think they had enough of an impact. and bigger series in the west also just have the issue of having too many entries to pick from without an overwhelmingly clear frontrunner to point to as "the one that did all the work to popularise the series/genre". nearly went with clannad admittedly though since that's pretty safe to call the biggest key title at least (just... still not really by much). arguably it is bigger than some of these four but i think these had a bigger impact on the medium overall. oh yeah and ddlc is maybe worth bringing up too, but i feel like the genre's moved backwards in mainstream appeal since its release if anything (early to mid 2010s, any vn project would get funded at a moment's notice, now not so much), despite how much of a hit it was with stream-based audiences for a time.
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05/07/24 4:00:40 AM
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squexa
05/07/24 8:30:53 AM
#41:


Tsukihime
Kanon
Higurashi
Portopia Serial Murder Case


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UF8
05/07/24 12:47:54 PM
#42:


oh i thought about including portopia, but same as ones like tokimeki memorial, while its impact was more than great enough to warrant inclusion, it just fit too well into more of an adjacent genre really
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FL81
05/07/24 1:22:24 PM
#43:


Thorn posted...
YU-NO
Fate/Stay Night
Higurashi
CLANNAD
these, although it was a very tough choice between Higurashi and Umineko

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dowolf
05/07/24 1:28:32 PM
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i realize that it's too late to convince folks, but DDLC is a strange choice. It's one of the few dempa VNs that made it big in the West, but I don't think it should be chosen over the things that inspired it. Subahibi (Wonderful Everyday) really should be there instead. My list in total would be:

F/SN
Subahibi
CLANNAD
Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai

Honorable mention to steins;gate, but it's just not influential enough. Oretsuba because Ou Jackson needs a rep and also it's easily my favorite of the untranslated kamige so i'mma put it here and watch it lose.

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MacArrowny
05/07/24 1:30:00 PM
#45:


Subahibi didn't even manage to get an anime, which would imply it wasn't that popular, right?

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Thorn
05/07/24 1:34:42 PM
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dowolf posted...
i realize that it's too late to convince folks, but DDLC is a strange choice. It's one of the few dempa VNs that made it big in the West, but I don't think it should be chosen over the things that inspired it. Subahibi (Wonderful Everyday) really should be there instead. My list in total would be:
I almost picked DDLC - and it would indeed make my HM list that I cut short - but it would be specifically for the fact that it had some more significant breakthrough in the West in exposing people to the genre. That would be my rationale - it's a more recent VN (okay by now it's a bit old but I mean compared to big early/mid 00s hitters) that had more Western breakthrough. I think it has a justifiable case based on that. Particularly if you feel like loading up Key/TM/When They Cry as entries is a bit redundant and wanted to free a space up for something a bit different.

Its specific plot had more or less already been done years earlier by Totono so it would be less that it did something new and more that it was the one that succeeded in breaking out and reaching a wider audience.

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FL81
05/07/24 1:40:00 PM
#47:


actually y'know what, for some level of original English language VN representation, lemme switch out YU-NO for Katawa Shoujo

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LightningStrikes
05/07/24 1:42:51 PM
#48:


Doki Doki Literature Club
Fate/Stay Night
Steins;Gate
999

Yeah I dont really count Ace Attorney even though it did contribute to the VN boom.

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dowolf
05/07/24 1:48:32 PM
#49:


Thorn posted...
Particularly if you feel like loading up Key/TM/When They Cry as entries is a bit redundant and wanted to free a space up for something a bit different.
Are they redundant? Type Moon basically kicked off the chuunibyou craze, while Maeda (who wrote the Key stuff that's getting discussed) is the master of nakige. Very different beasts.

As for Ryuukishi07, I love his work but it's hard to say he's one of the best four VN authors of all time.

...I think part of why I'm resisting putting DDLC on is that DDLC is generally disliked by a lot of the Japanese-speaking community not because it's bad, but because to them it's not fresh and new and the English-only community was treating it as fresh and new. I'm not that bad -- DDLC does deserve praise -- but I also don't fully disagree with the arguments against it. So it's kinda weird to see it here.

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dowolf
05/07/24 1:50:19 PM
#50:


MacArrowny posted...
Subahibi didn't even manage to get an anime, which would imply it wasn't that popular, right?
also i wish i were in the timeline where oretsuba didn't get an anime.

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