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Xenogears15
05/08/24 7:20:22 PM
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...to Israel if Israel invades Rafah.

*some shipments of bombs and artillery shells

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/08/politics/joe-biden-interview-cnntv/index.html

That damages any leverage that Israel has in these ceasefire negotiations. I don't think that's going to make them less likely to invade, though.

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Necronmon
05/08/24 7:29:03 PM
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People keep saying Biden and trump are the same on Israel..few Presidents would even go this far at this point.
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thronedfire2
05/08/24 7:31:35 PM
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fucking finally.

Israel can afford their own bombs. there's absolutely no reason we should be sending ammunition for them to use in a genocide.


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thronedfire2
05/08/24 7:32:03 PM
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Necronmon posted...
People keep saying Biden and trump are the same on Israel..few Presidents would even go this far at this point.

if Trump was president back in October Gaza would already not even exist.

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Tyranthraxus
05/08/24 7:39:24 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
some shipments of bombs and artillery shells
I'm assuming anything that Congress already approved is too late to back out of now.

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Cheater87
05/08/24 7:39:58 PM
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Which they did. I bet we still won't.

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Xenogears15
05/08/24 7:40:57 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I'm assuming anything that Congress already approved is too late to back out of now.

I thought the same. Much like Ukraine is getting ammo in the first few weeks after the bill passed, I assume that the Israelis got a big tranche by now, too.

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ClayGuida
05/08/24 7:40:58 PM
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Listening to White House Spox claim that 'well what Israel is doing in Rafah isn't actually a full campaign, so it doesn't count" is fucking annoying.

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Antifar
05/08/24 8:40:18 PM
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The best time to do this was months ago, but right now is the second best time.

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Kain_Highwind
05/08/24 8:43:03 PM
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Even if they say they won't, they're still gonna

https://twitter.com/sxarletred/status/1787884148096442684
https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1788302034145288431

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Unknown5uspect
05/08/24 8:45:57 PM
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Kain_Highwind posted...
Even if they say they won't, they're still gonna

https://twitter.com/sxarletred/status/1787884148096442684
https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1788302034145288431
I'm sorry is Israel's genocide not the exact same dumbass motivation?

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Flaming_Fire619
05/08/24 8:49:35 PM
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Kain_Highwind posted...
Even if they say they won't, they're still gonna

https://twitter.com/sxarletred/status/1787884148096442684
https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1788302034145288431

I mean, he isn't wrong. The conflict between Muslims and Israel is literally as old as the two religions have existed together in the same time frame. You can be upset about Israel's treatment of civilians and also acknowledge Hamas is a bunch of terrorists who absolutely need to be taken care of.

Also, I hate to say it, but this isn't going to change anyone's stances, even if it's the right call. The people who have been talking about a ceasefire will probably move the goal posts regarding aid being shipped. All it'll probably do is piss off the Israel vote, which actually makes this a lose/lose for Biden.

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Kain_Highwind
05/08/24 8:50:24 PM
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Flaming_Fire619 posted...
I mean, he isn't wrong. The conflict between Muslims and Israel is literally as old as the two religions have existed together in the same time frame. You can be upset about Israel's treatment of civilians and also acknowledge Hamas is a bunch of terrorists who absolutely need to be taken care of.

Also, I hate to say it, but this isn't going to change anyone's stances, even if it's the right call. The people who have been talking about a ceasefire will probably move the goal posts regarding aid being shipped. All it'll probably do is piss off the Israel vote, which actually makes this a lose/lose for Biden.
Saying they're fueled by "ancient desires" is Trump level racist speak

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WingsOfGood
05/08/24 8:52:04 PM
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Finally a W for Biden?
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