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Grand_Kirby 05/11/24 11:29:12 AM #1:	Something I had been thinking about recently was that nearly every single Pokemon from RBY has gotten a new evolution, or baby form, or gimmick form, or regional variant, or whatever. Turns out there's still a somewhat noteworthy amount that have never gotten anything, and so I switched to thinking "Which one of these families should be the next to get a new form in the next Pokemon games?" I made a list of them and wanted other people's thoughts: Gen 1 Pokemon that have not gotten a new variation yet: (Only the final evolution in a family are listed): Fearow Arbok Nidoqueen Nidoking Parasect Venomoth Golduck Victreebel Dodrio Dewgong Cloyster Hypno Seaking Starmie Ditto Omastar Kabutops Dragonite Mew Some of these probably don't count, like Ditto or the Fossil Pokemon (although Aerodactyl got one...). I'm kind of surprised the Psyduck family never got anything considering how popular it is. Or Dragonite, since it's the "pseudo-legendary" of its generation. Tyranitar, Salamence, Metagross, and Garchomp all got Megas and it didn't? --- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan <cite>Grand_Kirby posted [p:980345618] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Something I had been thinking about recently was that nearly every single Pokemon from RBY has gotten a new evolution, or baby form, or gimmick form, or regional variant, or whatever. Turns out there's still a somewhat noteworthy amount that have never gotten anything, and so I switched to thinking "Which one of these families should be the next to get a new form in the next Pokemon games?" I made a list of them and wanted other people's thoughts:Gen 1 Pokemon that have not gotten a new variation yet:(Only the final evolution in a family are listed):FearowArbokNidoqueenNidokingParasectVenomothGolduckVictreebelDodrioDewgongCloysterHypnoSeakingStarmieDittoOmastarKabutopsDragoniteMewSome of these probably don't count, like Ditto or the Fossil Pokemon (although Aerodactyl got one...). I'm kind of surprised the Psyduck family never got anything considering how popular it is. Or Dragonite, since it's the "pseudo-legendary" of its generation. Tyranitar, Salamence, Metagross, and Garchomp all got Megas and it didn't? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zigzagoon 05/11/24 11:31:13 AM #2:	For how popular Mew is, I'm surprised he hasn't gotten anything past what, the Z-Move he got? --- ~Silver_Ermine~ http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9r5hhXQbJ1rbct63o1_500.gif <cite>Zigzagoon posted [p:980345640] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>For how popular Mew is, I'm surprised he hasn't gotten anything past what, the Z-Move he got? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xenosaga 05/11/24 11:39:21 AM #3:	Would love for Dragonite to have an alternate final evolution that looks more like the first 2 forms. --- thcam ruz elliw red - https://b8.wtf <cite>xenosaga posted [p:980345725] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Would love for Dragonite to have an alternate final evolution that looks more like the first 2 forms. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarThaNemesis2 05/11/24 11:44:41 AM #4:	Give me Doquado --- Not a stinky alien. :( Nintendo Switch Code: SW-5719-6555-8388 <cite>WarThaNemesis2 posted [p:980345779] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Give me Doquado </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hombad46 05/11/24 11:44:56 AM #5:	Of these I think Dewgong is probably the one most in need of something to give it relevance --- It's tempting to linger in this moment, while every possibility still exists. But unless collapsed by an observer, they will never be more than possibilities. <cite>hombad46 posted [p:980345784] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Of these I think Dewgong is probably the one most in need of something to give it relevance </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnk 05/11/24 11:49:09 AM #6:	Fearow - Evolution Arbok - Regional form Nidoqueen - Mega Nidoking - Mega Parasect - Regional form with evo Venomoth - Regional form Golduck - Regional form Victreebel - Regional form with split evo Dodrio - Regional form with evo Dewgong - Split evolution Cloyster - Mega Hypno - Regional form Seaking - Evolution Starmie - Mega Ditto - lol i dunno Omastar - Regional form Kabutops - Regional form Dragonite - Mega Mew - Regional form --- Change is weird. <cite>mnk posted [p:980345816] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Fearow - EvolutionArbok - Regional formNidoqueen - MegaNidoking - MegaParasect - Regional form with evoVenomoth - Regional formGolduck - Regional formVictreebel - Regional form with split evoDodrio - Regional form with evoDewgong - Split evolutionCloyster - MegaHypno - Regional formSeaking - EvolutionStarmie - MegaDitto - lol i dunnoOmastar - Regional formKabutops - Regional formDragonite - MegaMew - Regional form </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UF8 05/11/24 11:54:57 AM #7:	would love to see revisits on most of these provided they're new evos (or megas) and a parasect new form could save it from its crippling flaws so that would be nice too. not sure i'd be happy about any other ones getting one though. maybe ditto? an alt form "dragonite" to just be more consistent with dratini/dragonair's designs would be an ideal scenario to me and it'll never in a million years happen <cite>UF8 posted [p:980345885] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>would love to see revisits on most of these provided they're new evos (or megas)and a parasect new form could save it from its crippling flaws so that would be nice too. not sure i'd be happy about any other ones getting one though. maybe ditto? an alt form "dragonite" to just be more consistent with dratini/dragonair's designs would be an ideal scenario to me and it'll never in a million years happen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andylt 05/11/24 1:08:15 PM #8:	Would be very interested in a regional version of the Paras line where the bug wins out over the parasite. <cite>andylt posted [p:980346666] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Would be very interested in a regional version of the Paras line where the bug wins out over the parasite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 05/11/24 1:14:44 PM #9:	The fact that Dragonite, one of the most popular mons in the generation, never got anything is still shocking to me. --- :) <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:980346734] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>The fact that Dragonite, one of the most popular mons in the generation, never got anything is still shocking to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skulltrumpets 05/11/24 1:55:49 PM #10:	I feel like based solely on design, Dewgong needs it the most. It is so boring ... I'm sorry. Based on popularity and legacy, Dragonite feels like a no brainer. And I think it would be interesting to take advantage of how it looks so different from its pre evolutions. Parasect would also be interesting for reasons UF8 and Andy have said. I think this would be my top personal pick for a Pokemon to get extra attention. <cite>skulltrumpets posted [p:980347230] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>I feel like based solely on design, Dewgong needs it the most. It is so boring ... I'm sorry. Based on popularity and legacy, Dragonite feels like a no brainer. And I think it would be interesting to take advantage of how it looks so different from its pre evolutions. Parasect would also be interesting for reasons UF8 and Andy have said. I think this would be my top personal pick for a Pokemon to get extra attention.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nanis23 05/11/24 2:09:43 PM #11:	Lapras I am sorry but I don't think Gigantamax should count It's a gimmick that lasted only one generation and offers nothing gameplay-wise besides a signature move As far as I remember Gigantamax Lapras wasn't even used by any trainer so you could play the whole game to completion and not even realize that Lapras as a Gmax form Totally forgettable in every way --- wololo <cite>Nanis23 posted [p:980347403] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>LaprasI am sorry but I don't think Gigantamax should countIt's a gimmick that lasted only one generation and offers nothing gameplay-wise besides a signature moveAs far as I remember Gigantamax Lapras wasn't even used by any trainer so you could play the whole game to completion and not even realize that Lapras as a Gmax formTotally forgettable in every way </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hombad46 05/11/24 2:16:43 PM #12:	Nanis23 posted... As far as I remember Gigantamax Lapras wasn't even used by any trainer so you could play the whole game to completion and not even realize that Lapras as a Gmax form This is true in Sword. In Shield the sixth gym leader's ace is a Gmax Lapras. --- It's tempting to linger in this moment, while every possibility still exists. But unless collapsed by an observer, they will never be more than possibilities. <cite>hombad46 posted [p:980347484] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Nanis23 posted... </cite><quote>As far as I remember Gigantamax Lapras wasn't even used by any trainer so you could play the whole game to completion and not even realize that Lapras as a Gmax form</quote>This is true in Sword. In Shield the sixth gym leader's ace is a Gmax Lapras. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnk 05/11/24 2:30:58 PM #13:	andylt posted... Would be very interested in a regional version of the Paras line where the bug wins out over the parasite. It conquers the parasite and evolves to be the first Bug/Dragon. --- Change is weird. <cite>mnk posted [p:980347674] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>andylt posted... </cite><quote>Would be very interested in a regional version of the Paras line where the bug wins out over the parasite.</quote>It conquers the parasite and evolves to be the first Bug/Dragon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
most_games_r_ok 05/11/24 6:08:00 PM #14:	mnk posted... It conquers the parasite and evolves to be the first Bug/Dragon. Still mad that Flygon isn't that! Anyways, I immediately thought Lapras and Dragonite cause yeah, gigantimax doesn't count and for whatever reason Dragonite got no mega or alternate form. Although I do like Paras conquering the parasite more and more. --- "I do because I can." http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Micer101.png <cite>most_games_r_ok posted [p:980350631] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>mnk posted... </cite><quote>It conquers the parasite and evolves to be the first Bug/Dragon.</quote>Still mad that Flygon isn't that!Anyways, I immediately thought Lapras and Dragonite cause yeah, gigantimax doesn't count and for whatever reason Dragonite got no mega or alternate form. Although I do like Paras conquering the parasite more and more. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 05/11/24 6:54:55 PM #15:	Its weird that Dragonite is like the only pseudo legendary that hasnt gotten some alternate form at this point --- For your Azuarc* .* At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:980351346] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Its weird that Dragonite is like the only pseudo legendary that hasnt gotten some alternate form at this point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Meow1000 05/11/24 6:59:34 PM #16:	most_games_r_ok posted... Still mad that Flygon isn't that! Anyways, I immediately thought Lapras and Dragonite cause yeah, gigantimax doesn't count and for whatever reason Dragonite got no mega or alternate form. Although I do like Paras conquering the parasite more and more. Flygon being Bug/Dragon is one of those obvious things that you really don't get how they missed it. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience. <cite>Meow1000 posted [p:980351411] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>most_games_r_ok posted... </cite><quote>Still mad that Flygon isn't that!Anyways, I immediately thought Lapras and Dragonite cause yeah, gigantimax doesn't count and for whatever reason Dragonite got no mega or alternate form. Although I do like Paras conquering the parasite more and more.</quote>Flygon being Bug/Dragon is one of those obvious things that you really don't get how they missed it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
notdave 05/11/24 10:02:49 PM #17:	Fire Dodrio in Radical Red was pretty cool Arbok should also get dark typing --- ND <cite>notdave posted [p:980353752] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Fire Dodrio in Radical Red was pretty coolArbok should also get dark typing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 05/11/24 10:12:46 PM #18:	mnk posted... Cloyster - Mega Oooh, I'm really liking the idea of Mega Cloyster! --- darkx <cite>Underleveled posted [p:980353885] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>mnk posted... </cite><quote>Cloyster - Mega</quote>Oooh, I'm really liking the idea of Mega Cloyster! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
changmas 05/11/24 10:17:05 PM #19:	Dittos a hard one. The original ditto is basically perfect as is, so Id imagine it would have to be a regional form. maybe it transforms and copies all the stats (including HP) but halves its speed? So its a trick room ditto of sorts (that can hold a non-choice scarf item finally) or maybe since they removed mirror move it keeps dittos (shitty) stats but it can use +1 priority mirror move as its only move? Or a new version of mirror move that uses the move the target selected this turn? Something like instead of perfecting transformation by copying Pokmon it perfected copying Pokmon moves instead --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal <cite>changmas posted [p:980353942] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Dittos a hard one. The original ditto is basically perfect as is, so Id imagine it would have to be a regional form.maybe it transforms and copies all the stats (including HP) but halves its speed? So its a trick room ditto of sorts (that can hold a non-choice scarf item finally)or maybe since they removed mirror move it keeps dittos (shitty) stats but it can use +1 priority mirror move as its only move? Or a new version of mirror move that uses the move the target selected this turn? Something like instead of perfecting transformation by copying Pokmon it perfected copying Pokmon moves instead </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raka_Putra 05/11/24 10:32:55 PM #20:	https://www.instagram.com/p/C17Fwl6LsbY/?igsh=MTk2dWNsbDcxYjAyeA== Fake regional Ditto forms that I like. --- God has heard my soul. <cite>Raka_Putra posted [p:980354121] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>https://www.instagram.com/p/C17Fwl6LsbY/?igsh=MTk2dWNsbDcxYjAyeA==Fake regional Ditto forms that I like. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esuriat 05/11/24 10:36:18 PM #21:	A new form for Golduck would be cool. Maybe they could lean even more heavily into an alleged association with kappa, or go and give it an extra psychic typing. --- Essy <cite>Esuriat posted [p:980354155] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>A new form for Golduck would be cool. Maybe they could lean even more heavily into an alleged association with kappa, or go and give it an extra psychic typing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xtlm 05/11/24 11:55:25 PM #22:	I would like to see a Ditto sequel. Be creative Nintendo! --- I'd Rather Be A Savage Little Elephant, than be a big Bald Bull "I claim one line in your sig" = TheKnightOfNee <cite>Xtlm posted [p:980355110] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>I would like to see a Ditto sequel. Be creative Nintendo! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Brayze_II 05/12/24 1:24:16 AM #23:	WarThaNemesis2 posted... Give me Doquado Dodetra is the sensible man's option for a 4-headed monster bird. Or they could go full on and do Dodeca and give it 20 goddamn heads --- I'm am hungry I want some lasaga <cite>Brayze_II posted [p:980355954] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>WarThaNemesis2 posted... </cite><quote>Give me Doquado</quote>Dodetra is the sensible man's option for a 4-headed monster bird. Or they could go full on and do Dodeca and give it 20 goddamn heads </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
notdave 05/12/24 1:26:10 AM #24:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2e47234a.jpg here it is --- ND <cite>notdave posted [p:980355964] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2e47234a.jpghere it is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MZero 05/12/24 3:50:25 AM #25:	Surprised Dragonite hasn't gotten anything. That's definitely my answer Nanis23 posted... Lapras I am sorry but I don't think Gigantamax should count It's a gimmick that lasted only one generation and offers nothing gameplay-wise besides a signature move As far as I remember Gigantamax Lapras wasn't even used by any trainer so you could play the whole game to completion and not even realize that Lapras as a Gmax form Totally forgettable in every way I mean it very clearly does count --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame <cite>MZero posted [p:980356716] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Surprised Dragonite hasn't gotten anything. That's definitely my answerNanis23 posted... </cite><quote>LaprasI am sorry but I don't think Gigantamax should countIt's a gimmick that lasted only one generation and offers nothing gameplay-wise besides a signature moveAs far as I remember Gigantamax Lapras wasn't even used by any trainer so you could play the whole game to completion and not even realize that Lapras as a Gmax formTotally forgettable in every way</quote>I mean it very clearly does count </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yellowwolley 05/12/24 5:35:28 AM #26:	Mega Nidoqueen please!! Or regional form. --- FC: SW-2565-5813-5018. 2DS-3239-3621-4530. Ign/TSV. UM Bruno/1041. Sun Amy/1856. X Kevin/1740. AS Krystal/1520. Shiny list:http://tinyurl.com/yellowwolleypokes <cite>yellowwolley posted [p:980357141] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Mega Nidoqueen please!! Or regional form. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RyoCaliente 05/12/24 5:44:41 AM #27:	Not every Pokemon needs to be good or relevant. I say none of these really merit an extra. --- How paralyzingly dull, boring and tedious! <cite>RyoCaliente posted [p:980357173] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Not every Pokemon needs to be good or relevant. I say none of these really merit an extra. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Isquen 05/12/24 8:49:08 AM #28:	Still a fun thought exercise, though. My vote would be for Cloyster, and have some Pokedex shenanigans occur between it and the Slowkings/Slowbros but also Clamperl (and its evolutions) to prove that Pokemon marine biologists are roughly as terrible as Cara Liss. --- [Rock and Stone] <o/ <cite>Isquen posted [p:980358132] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Still a fun thought exercise, though.My vote would be for Cloyster, and have some Pokedex shenanigans occur between it and the Slowkings/Slowbros but also Clamperl (and its evolutions) to prove that Pokemon marine biologists are roughly as terrible as Cara Liss. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Brayze_II 05/12/24 9:15:13 AM #29:	Fearow is such hot trash I think it should go extinct and be replaced with an invasive species --- I'm am hungry I want some lasaga <cite>Brayze_II posted [p:980358316] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Fearow is such hot trash I think it should go extinct and be replaced with an invasive species </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 05/12/24 9:26:53 AM #30:	Brayze_II posted... Fearow is such hot trash I think it should go extinct and be replaced with an invasive species Fearow is objectively better than Pidgeot (for casual playthroughs at least) --- darkx <cite>Underleveled posted [p:980358420] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>Brayze_II posted... </cite><quote>Fearow is such hot trash I think it should go extinct and be replaced with an invasive species</quote>Fearow is objectively better than Pidgeot (for casual playthroughs at least) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 05/12/24 11:39:55 AM #31:	Bulbasaur And I mean BULBasaur --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png <cite>pjbasis posted [p:980359727] in Which Gen ... [t:80767017]...</cite> <quote>BulbasaurAnd I mean BULBasaur </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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