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The_Korey
05/12/24 10:07:31 AM
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Knew this would be about celebrity/billionaire private jets.

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CyborgSage00x0
05/12/24 10:13:03 AM
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It should be noted that this isn't just because she is a mega-celebrity that travels around to do concerts. That is understood and applies to many people/groups.

The big issue is, she is known to take many, many extremely frivolous trips, often short distances, all in her private jet, when these at least could be achieved by flying on commercial planes. Also, it's not clear form the video posted, but does she have TWO jets and the 1 will constantly meet the other at an airport to...switch off? Holy fucking shit.

There's a bill somewhere in Congress IIRC that will levy massive taxes on private jets and make them pay for their carbon footprint, as well as remove a loophole that allows them to be applied as business expenses.

To be clear, individual efforts to not recycle and curb waste and emissions should still occur. But it's correct that large corporations aren't regulated nearly enough for this.

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LeoRavus
05/12/24 10:13:51 AM
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I assume other people are using the planes too. Looks like one went to Mexico City and stayed there while the other kept bouncing around.

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HentaiMan
05/12/24 10:17:26 AM
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RIP earth

Robot2600 posted...
we hate Pitbull now too?

anyway i dont care if you don't like her music, just to be clear
that's the perpetual boner guy right

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Scardude
05/12/24 10:35:44 AM
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I'm not sure we as a species can save ourselves from extinction in time. Earth has experienced many and we are fast tracking to ours.

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/12/24 11:08:04 AM
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...
these at least could be achieved by flying on commercial planes.
In a world where John Lennon was assassinated by a fan who was pissed off about a quote the guy had made fourteen years prior? I don't think so.

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CyborgSage00x0
05/12/24 11:10:18 AM
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RetuenOfDevsman posted...
In a world where John Lennon was assassinated by a fan who was pissed off about a quote the guy had made fourteen years prior? I don't think so.
You are aware that 99% of celebrities fly commercial (albeit first or business class) all the time, right? I literally book A-list film stars flights as part of my job. None of them have private planes.

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/12/24 11:11:51 AM
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...
You are aware that 99% of celebrities fly commercial (albeit first or business class) all the time, right? I literally book A-list film stars flights as part of my job. None of them have private planes.
I had no idea.

What are they, suicidal?

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hockeybabe89
05/12/24 2:50:12 PM
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Aloc posted...
the issue is rich people all do what swift does. the higher you are on the income chart. the more you pollute.

but they expect us to lower OUR standards of living.
Is that what the Taylor Swifts of the world actually do? Tell us to live without modern luxuries so they can fly on private jets?

I feel like you're making up a strawman. A rich singer is different than a rich politician or a rich Big Oil/Big Auto executive. Taylor Swift isn't doing anything to you or I.

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Kradek
05/12/24 2:58:19 PM
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ai123 posted...
Constructing nonsense irrelevant arguments because you nurse an irrational but intense hatred for a woman who has made a very successful career out of pop music.

Ludicrous.

I'm not attacking her for it, however it's not just her who is attacked for this. I listen to a progressive pundit named Thom Hartmann who has talked about how people attack him for taking a private jet over the years to various countries for various obligations as being part of the problem and not actually caring about tackling climate change. Swift's career has her traveling far more than him, though he's much older and has a longer history of those flights, however the point is it's something people who vouch for doing nothing in regards to climate change typically attack those who do when applicable.

TC might be attacking Swift in particular, however it is a talking point other people use to try and tear down those who talk about tackling climate change, yet don't commit to taking a bicycle everywhere they go and having a 0 carbon footprint in their life.

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Krojen
05/12/24 3:10:17 PM
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Taylor Swift is such a large operation that she should also be viewed as a corporation.

And as a billionaire with her brands reach, she could absolutely have a hand in environmental policy making. Ive seen dudes sellout the entire planet for a 200k campaign donation.

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TheHoldSteady
05/12/24 3:20:03 PM
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Is this planet gonna last forever?

Or is it gonna go down in flames?

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TheHoldSteady
05/12/24 3:20:56 PM
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You can tell me when it's over if all my flights were worth the pain

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LonelyStoner
05/12/24 3:29:48 PM
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RetuenOfDevsman posted...
I had no idea.

What are they, suicidal?
When was the last time a celebrity was murdered by a fan or a stalker?

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TheHoldSteady
05/12/24 3:31:35 PM
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LonelyStoner posted...
When was the last time a celebrity was murdered by a fan or a stalker?

Christina Grimmie I think

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Aloc
05/12/24 8:35:16 PM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
Is that what the Taylor Swifts of the world actually do? Tell us to live without modern luxuries so they can fly on private jets?

I feel like you're making up a strawman. A rich singer is different than a rich politician or a rich Big Oil/Big Auto executive. Taylor Swift isn't doing anything to you or I.
Hockeybabe going to defense for a billionaires wasteful life.

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hockeybabe89
05/13/24 3:44:21 PM
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Aloc posted...
Hockeybabe going to defense for a billionaires wasteful life.
Weird. You understood some of my words despite clearly never having learned to read.

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Kradek
05/13/24 10:58:23 PM
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TheHoldSteady posted...
Is this planet gonna last forever?

Or is it gonna go down in flames?

The planet will survive without life on it.

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Irony
05/13/24 10:58:54 PM
#69:


I don't use paper straws and I stand in the shower until the water turns ice cold

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EPR-radar
05/13/24 11:35:57 PM
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snake_5036 posted...
Even ignoring this, I look at how much plastic my work site throws away every day, plastic that could easily be recycled and isn't contaminated, and it's probably more than my house uses in a year. Putting climate change on the individual instead of on corpos is the biggest scam the industry ever did.
This.

The only rational path to dealing with climate change is serious policy at the international level. Of course that's a really difficult problem to deal with fairly, but that difficulty is not an excuse to do fuck-all, which is pretty much what's happening.

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RetuenOfDevsman
05/14/24 1:48:27 AM
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EPR-radar posted...
This.

The only rational path to dealing with climate change is serious policy at the international level. Of course that's a really difficult problem to deal with fairly, but that difficulty is not an excuse to do fuck-all, which is pretty much what's happening.
Not even. We're actively making the problem worse in response to the problem, when activists fly across the country doing talks that people drive from miles and miles around to listen to while nothing changes.

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CyborgSage00x0
05/14/24 12:00:54 PM
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RetuenOfDevsman posted...
I had no idea.

What are they, suicidal?
I'm not sure why you think they are at risk of being randomly attacked. Most everyone will just want a selfie.

And plenty travel incognito, or as much as they can.

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