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Lately, I've been diving deep into fitness-related YouTube content, and let me tell you, it's a wild ride. Everyone seems to have their own take, all claiming to be backed by science. But here's the kicker: conflicting advice is everywhere. It's like trying to find your way through a maze blindfolded.

Sure, there's the old "calories in vs calories out" mantra, but even that's not as straightforward as it sounds. Since people bodies burn calories at different rates. And so people think that is BS when they are following what the guidelines say and don't see any results. But their body is just burning stuff slower.

And don't even get me started on the Natural vs Natty debate. These guys telling you what to do might have more juice than Buffalo in the 70s.

Does anyone have any go to people to watch.
To people I watch a lot are Jeremy Ethier and Jeff Nippard.

/fit/ is the single best fitness info platform in the universe.

Are you trying to be stronger or lose weight?

Unless you have some kind of metabolic issue, your basic metabolic rate should roughly be the same and your activity levels should still roughly put you in the ballpark. Also it shouldn't be that your body burns calories at different rates, it's your body will use different stores first so you may not see losses where you expect.

There may be a difference in regards to a big guy (250+ lbs) exercising the same amount as a smaller guy (150 lbs) since the bigger guy is moving around more weight naturally. However, so long as you're being honest with your intake and with how much you're working out then you should be in the same ballpark still.

It also helps to remember that if your intake is 2000 and you're burning 2500, it's still going to take a week to burn a pound of fat. And that's not accounting for any potential muscle gain that offsets the loss

Athlean-X

https://youtu.be/qx4vTFBSofk?si=22CBpqevM43Xbw7I

Calories in calories out isnt really up to debate tbh. Some people just burn slower or faster. Where people go wrong is thinking all workout routines will have the same results for all people.

Exercise is really a very personal thing, as its your body, and everyones is different. What works for one may not work for others. A big part of working out is finding what works for you, and then pushing yourself accordingly. Taking beginner advice is of course useful, but dont put TOO much stock into what fitness influencers say

Ive watched tons over the years and I feel like there are pros and cons to them all. I like Dr Mike who is fairly knowledgeable and a straight shooter, but he's also not natty (which he's transparent about) and has had some bad takes as well.

It's really about what you're trying to accomplish in the end. The best approach (imo) is to gather information from as many sources as possible and design a plan around what suits you.

Thanks everyone for the input.

For me trying to do body recomp . Where I am trying to build muscle and lose weight at the same time. And I don't like Dr Mike. He has said one thing, and then said the opposite in a different video.

Google "fuckarounditis" and read the article, thank me later.

cjsdowg posted...

Where I am trying to build muscle and lose weight at the same time.

The only people who can do this effectively are novice obese lifters and teenage boys.

I am a novice obese lifter. I am not saying that as joke.

Evening_Dragon posted...

/fit/ is the single best fitness info platform in the universe.

/fit/ tells you to lose weight by fasting for a week+ while drinking "snake juice"

Iodine posted...

The only people who can do this effectively are novice obese lifters and teenage boys.

Even then, losing a noticeable amount of weight while gaining muscle isnt exactly easy, and can lead to unrealistic expectations.

If tc is obese, losing weight first should probably be the focus before thinking about muscle

Don't follow athlean X

Renaissance periodisation if you have a hard on for science based advice

Sean nawalnway (sp?) If you want shortform advice

Geoffrey verity schofield for no bs advice

Clarence kennedy for motivation

Jeff Nippard seems good. I second that Sean guy too.

pinky0926 posted...

Don't follow athlean X

Renaissance periodisation if you have a hard on for science based advice

Sean nawalnway (sp?) If you want shortform advice

Geoffrey verity schofield for no bs advice

Clarence kennedy for motivation

I will say that athlean x does have very good advice for rehab/not hurting yourself, which makes sense because that's a big part of Jeff's background.

Sean is great in small doses and gives solid advice, but yeah. His full length videos fucking drag. He'll just repeat the same thing 10x. His shorts are dramatically better to watch.

I'm another big Renaissance Periodization fan. It's probably not that ideal for new lifters but intermediate to advanced stuff he has a lot of great advice. He also will evolve his views as new studies come out, which is nice.

For new lifters, it's essentially not much harder than very basic advice and not hurting yourself. This is unfortunately the largest portion of people looking for advice, so there's plenty of folks trying to take advantage of that

I used it as a starting point and winged it. Feel like if I followed all that advice I would be downing an entire bottle of protein shake mix a day and in the hospital every other week.

An obese friend of mine has been having success following someone going by Mulligains(Mulligainz? Unsure on the spelling but I think he says a z) and is doing well. Disclaimer being I've never checked him out aside from what I've been shown so I can't say if he gets in to any weird shit, but my friend lost about 50lbs over the past six months and, though slow going, seems to be doing really well for themselves.

As a formerly obese person, my advice is don't be ashamed to take it slow and listen to yourself. That doesn't mean give yourself shit for everything not going perfectly either. Stay in a good headspace, realize setbacks will happen on the path, and keep on trucking.

If this is strictly for lifting, dunno much. I do as little as possible to stay healthy, never cared much for it.

Ex personal trainer here.

Jeff Nippard is the best youtuber and it's really not even close.

But yeah as yunglink said, calories in/calories out is not up for debate. Stay away from anyone trying to make it more complicated than that.

If you're just starting out (assuming your main goal is to lose weight) , the key is to keep it simple. Stick to a specific calorie count, exercise and that's all your really should think about. I don't give a shit if you only pizza but stick to the specific calories, that's fine. I don't give a shit if you go to the gym and do just machines... the key to starting out is keeping it simple and staying consistent whatever it takes.

The problem i often see newbies make is they overthink waaaay too much. "IS THIS FOOD BAD FOR ME? IS IT GOOD? WHAT IS THE BEST EXERCISE?" The reality is it is not nearly as complicated as it seems. Pick ANY beginners workout routine, it doesn't matter. Find out how many calories you need to consume daily and stick to it, don't worry about the specifics of what you eat. Hell, even if you stick to those tv diets like Adkins, that's totally fine

Jiek_Fafn posted...

I will say that athlean x does have very good advice for rehab/not hurting yourself, which makes sense because that's a big part of Jeff's background.

Sean is great in small doses and gives solid advice, but yeah. His full length videos fucking drag. He'll just repeat the same thing 10x. His shorts are dramatically better to watch.

I'm another big Renaissance Periodization fan. It's probably not that ideal for new lifters but intermediate to advanced stuff he has a lot of great advice. He also will evolve his views as new studies come out, which is nice.

For new lifters, it's essentially not much harder than very basic advice and not hurting yourself. This is unfortunately the largest portion of people looking for advice, so there's plenty of folks trying to take advantage of that

My problem with athlean X is that his entire content strategy is to terrify people. "17 reasons why you're going to injure yourself" and then it's like some variation on lateral raises. People aren't hurting themselves doing lateral raises with 10lbs, but athlean X has you believing that is exactly how people get hurt.

You're right about renaissance periodization tbh, The stuff is more intermediate based.

Eh, dont worry too much about which fitness YouTubers to follow if youre a novice. Find a simple routine you can follow and stick with it for a few months. Just get into the habit of going to the gym consistently multiples times a week and monitoring your nutrition. The reason why so many people quit the gym fast is because they do a deep dive into the well of fitness content creators, supplements, science based lifting, and so on. All of that information is overwhelming for someone who is a novice.

The best thing you can do for now is go to the gym consistently and try. Ask the biggest and strongest dudes at your gym for form advice to make sure you dont hurt yourself. Youll eventually discover which exercises you either like or can tolerate and what works best for you. Come back to the studies say that this variation of the barbell back squat increases activation of the quadriceps by 15% videos later in your lifting journey. Much later when youre trying to maximize your gains.

AthleanX is great if youre working around some type of injury but his videos of Do this to get abs fast are annoying. Jeff Nippard is cool but hes more for intermediate and advanced lifters. Squat University is great for learning warm up routines, proper form, and how to eliminate pain experienced during a specific lift.

What do you guys think about this work out.

Day 1

Dumbbell Incline Bench Press: 3 sets of 8 reps

Laying Cable Tricep Extensions: 3 sets of 8 reps

Dumbbell Bicep Curls: 3 sets of 8 reps

Band Rows: 3 sets of 8 reps

Tricep Pulldowns: 3 sets of 8 reps

Dumbbell Shoulder Shrugs: 3 sets of 8 reps

Standing Cable Crunches: 3 sets of 8 reps

Day 2 Legs

Dumbbell Glute Bridge: 3 sets of 8 repetitions.

Dumbbell Squat: 3 sets of 8 repetitions. Sometimes I use the Bench if my knee is hurting that day.

Dumbbell Calf Raises: 3 sets of 16

Dumbbell RDL ( have not done these before so I don't know)

Dumbbell Step-ups: I walk up my home steps ( 10) 5 times.

Dumbbell Side Bends: It isn't legs, but I do a different exercise core every workout. Because when I lose my fat, my abs need to be ready.

Day 3

Dumbbell Shoulder Press 3 sets of 8 reps

Dumbbell Seated Press 3 sets of 8 reps

Dumbbell Shoulder Adduction 3 sets of 8 reps

Dumbbell Step-Up house stairs

Bicep Curl 3 sets of 8 reps

Cable Row 3 sets of 8 reps

Dumbell Side Bends 3 sets of 8 reps

As soon as you hear fitness YT'ers mention things like, Ancestral Diet, gut microbiome, raw, and organic, high LDL, and Sat fat are not bad for you. Run, run far away. They are all charlatans.

Most of them are probably grifters.

Talk to real people.

Anyone can post any garbage they want on YT

_____Cait posted...

Most of them are probably grifters.

Talk to real people.

Anyone can post any garbage they want on YT

They are grifters. Paul Sardino, Liver King, Greg Doucette, Bobby Parrish being some of the more well known ones.

cjsdowg posted...

What do you guys think about this work out.

Day 1

Dumbbell Incline Bench Press: 3 sets of 8 reps

Laying Cable Tricep Extensions: 3 sets of 8 reps

Dumbbell Bicep Curls: 3 sets of 8 reps

Band Rows: 3 sets of 8 reps

Tricep Pulldowns: 3 sets of 8 reps

Dumbbell Shoulder Shrugs: 3 sets of 8 reps

Standing Cable Crunches: 3 sets of 8 reps

Day 2 Legs

Dumbbell Glute Bridge: 3 sets of 8 repetitions.

Dumbbell Squat: 3 sets of 8 repetitions. Sometimes I use the Bench if my knee is hurting that day.

Dumbbell Calf Raises: 3 sets of 16

Dumbbell RDL ( have not done these before so I don't know)

Dumbbell Step-ups: I walk up my home steps ( 10) 5 times.

Dumbbell Side Bends: It isn't legs, but I do a different exercise core every workout. Because when I lose my fat, my abs need to be ready.

Day 3

Dumbbell Shoulder Press 3 sets of 8 reps

Dumbbell Seated Press 3 sets of 8 reps

Dumbbell Shoulder Adduction 3 sets of 8 reps

Dumbbell Step-Up house stairs

Bicep Curl 3 sets of 8 reps

Cable Row 3 sets of 8 reps

Dumbell Side Bends 3 sets of 8 reps

Depends on what you're trying to achieve as well as what's sustainable for you. Just doing this or any reasonably varied and effective routine will do wonders for you. If you're trying to build muscle/strength, 8 reps is fine, but is the generally considered the low end of reps. I do 8 reps for something when I'm just trying that movement out or when I'm increasing the weight. So I do 8 with the heaviest weight I can reasonably lift, then progress to 10, then 12, then either go up in weight or do 15 reps, then go up in weight, rinse and repeat.

I think you'd see great results from what you posted as long as you stick with it and you're constantly increasing weight and reps.