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Hickey_Blvd46 05/12/24 3:58:26 PM #1:	It's hard for me to imagine most people in normal jobs with normal salaries doing it Unless you either have financial help from your parents or you marry someone who has a lot of money --- Golden State Warriors \| SF Giants \| SF 49ers \| San Jose Sharks I Manny Pacquiao <cite>Hickey_Blvd46 posted [p:980363017] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>It's hard for me to imagine most people in normal jobs with normal salaries doing itUnless you either have financial help from your parents or you marry someone who has a lot of money </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoBlazer 05/12/24 4:09:32 PM #2:	Incredibly difficult, and I'm seeing that indirectly because of my sister's current situation. She's moving her family across the country from northern Virginia (expensive) to San Diego (extremely expensive). She's a pediatrician and will gross about 290k in SD. Her husband works in a specialized government role and grosses about 170k. That's a married couple grossing a combined 460k, and they're still stressing about how they can make San Diego work financially. Decent homes are going for about $1.5 million there, and with current interest rates, you're looking at monthly mortgage payments will in excess of $10,000. They also have three kids, at least two of whom will require daycare, and that will likely run... like another 4k per month. So yeah, they'll feel the squeeze even with their high salaries. It's so, so hard for families with children to make something like this work. --- Burnin, Blazin <cite>YoBlazer posted [p:980363158] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>Incredibly difficult, and I'm seeing that indirectly because of my sister's current situation. She's moving her family across the country from northern Virginia (expensive) to San Diego (extremely expensive). She's a pediatrician and will gross about 290k in SD. Her husband works in a specialized government role and grosses about 170k. That's a married couple grossing a combined 460k, and they're still stressing about how they can make San Diego work financially. Decent homes are going for about $1.5 million there, and with current interest rates, you're looking at monthly mortgage payments will in excess of $10,000. They also have three kids, at least two of whom will require daycare, and that will likely run... like another 4k per month. So yeah, they'll feel the squeeze even with their high salaries. It's so, so hard for families with children to make something like this work. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LonelyStoner 05/12/24 4:10:35 PM #3:	Almost impossible unless you make 3 figures or more a year. --- He's all alone through the day and night. <cite>LonelyStoner posted [p:980363167] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>Almost impossible unless you make 3 figures or more a year. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archizzy 05/12/24 4:12:01 PM #4:	It's definitely harder in a high cost of living area, even though salaries tend to be higher. I know a guy that moved from San Diego back here to the Midwest and even though he was just a regular guy scraping by out there, his house had gained so much value he sold it for over a million moved back here and bought an amazing top tier house for like $450K and paid in cash, bought him and his wife new vehicles and is 100% debt free and lives quite well now and has a boat, a motorcycle, and all kinds of extra stuff because he has a decent job but has no house or vehicle payment and still was able to put a chunk of money into the bank. He makes way less money now but he gained so much more and his dollar is so much stronger here. I don't know why more people don't do that honestly. I get it, not everyone enjoys the Midwest but there are some pretty nice places in the Midwest where prices haven't gone too crazy yet. We have a number of people in their 20's at my job that started in the last year or two that have all bought decent houses and are supporting families on their salary and its not a crazy high paying job to start out as. We have great benefits but actual pay is lower than city utilities. They are able to do it on like 55K a year. --- PSN ID: sled_dogs76 60" Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO151FD, Yamaha RX-V3900 A/V Receiver, Oppo DV983-H player. Coming soon: 2 Seaton Submersives from Mark Seaton <cite>archizzy posted [p:980363180] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>It's definitely harder in a high cost of living area, even though salaries tend to be higher. I know a guy that moved from San Diego back here to the Midwest and even though he was just a regular guy scraping by out there, his house had gained so much value he sold it for over a million moved back here and bought an amazing top tier house for like $450K and paid in cash, bought him and his wife new vehicles and is 100% debt free and lives quite well now and has a boat, a motorcycle, and all kinds of extra stuff because he has a decent job but has no house or vehicle payment and still was able to put a chunk of money into the bank. He makes way less money now but he gained so much more and his dollar is so much stronger here. I don't know why more people don't do that honestly. I get it, not everyone enjoys the Midwest but there are some pretty nice places in the Midwest where prices haven't gone too crazy yet. We have a number of people in their 20's at my job that started in the last year or two that have all bought decent houses and are supporting families on their salary and its not a crazy high paying job to start out as. We have great benefits but actual pay is lower than city utilities. They are able to do it on like 55K a year. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xAzNPimP4LiFex 05/12/24 6:07:50 PM #5:	No chance of it happening unless you or your partner make huge money in tech, finance, or healthcare. Only options I can think of to buy a house in a HCOL area are be rich yourself, marry someone rich, or you (or your partner) be born in a rich family. --- Pimpin ain't as easy as ya fellas think it is so don't front on me like that SON! <cite>xAzNPimP4LiFex posted [p:980364723] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>No chance of it happening unless you or your partner make huge money in tech, finance, or healthcare. Only options I can think of to buy a house in a HCOL area are be rich yourself, marry someone rich, or you (or your partner) be born in a rich family. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
a-c-a-b 05/12/24 6:14:34 PM #6:	I personally know only 2 people my age who own homes. One of them got significant help from their parents and the other bought a house with inheritance money from their grandparents. --- Save for your doomed future <cite>a-c-a-b posted [p:980364800] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>I personally know only 2 people my age who own homes. One of them got significant help from their parents and the other bought a house with inheritance money from their grandparents. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoBlazer 05/12/24 6:43:58 PM #7:	archizzy posted... I don't know why more people don't do that honestly. The story you posted probably does sound like a dream scenario for some people, but you have to be very lucky and stumble into the opportunity. The odds of a young person buying in a cool market, then watching their equity explode in ten years as the market turns red-hot, and then cashing out to live the good life... are very slim. Even if you were sitting on a mountain of equity that you could cash out tax-free (married couples get 500k tax-free gain on the sale of their primary home, single people get 250k), you'd still need to be willing to relocate far away, and many people have things preventing them from doing that. I can actually use my brother's neighborhood as an example. In 2021, he bought a very modest house in an area of Los Angeles county that was clearly working class (mostly 3 bedrooms, all built before 1950), but since it's LA, these simple homes are still worth like 900k now. When I look around his street, I notice that all of his neighbors are normal blue-collar folks who bought these homes decades ago, when it was affordable for average-income earners to actually do that. They're now sitting on mountains of equity, yet hardly any of them move out. All the areas around them have grown more expensive too, so like you said, they'd have to move to completely new places at this stage of their life. Also, their grown children, who usually live with them because they are priced out of getting their own places, would be totally screwed. So you have situations where the house is worth a million bucks, but it's a cluttered piece of crap with multiple generations living inside and like five cars parked outside. --- Burnin, Blazin <cite>YoBlazer posted [p:980365141] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>archizzy posted... </cite><quote>I don't know why more people don't do that honestly.</quote>The story you posted probably does sound like a dream scenario for some people, but you have to be very lucky and stumble into the opportunity. The odds of a young person buying in a cool market, then watching their equity explode in ten years as the market turns red-hot, and then cashing out to live the good life... are very slim. Even if you were sitting on a mountain of equity that you could cash out tax-free (married couples get 500k tax-free gain on the sale of their primary home, single people get 250k), you'd still need to be willing to relocate far away, and many people have things preventing them from doing that. I can actually use my brother's neighborhood as an example. In 2021, he bought a very modest house in an area of Los Angeles county that was clearly working class (mostly 3 bedrooms, all built before 1950), but since it's LA, these simple homes are still worth like 900k now. When I look around his street, I notice that all of his neighbors are normal blue-collar folks who bought these homes decades ago, when it was affordable for average-income earners to actually do that. They're now sitting on mountains of equity, yet hardly any of them move out. All the areas around them have grown more expensive too, so like you said, they'd have to move to completely new places at this stage of their life. Also, their grown children, who usually live with them because they are priced out of getting their own places, would be totally screwed. So you have situations where the house is worth a million bucks, but it's a cluttered piece of crap with multiple generations living inside and like five cars parked outside. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 05/12/24 6:45:23 PM #8:	well it's pretty unlikely without generational wealth, and it's only going to get worse. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:980365160] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>well it's pretty unlikely without generational wealth, and it's only going to get worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hickey_Blvd46 05/13/24 3:20:48 AM #9:	Yikes that is pretty sad --- Golden State Warriors \| SF Giants \| SF 49ers \| San Jose Sharks I Manny Pacquiao <cite>Hickey_Blvd46 posted [p:980370096] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>Yikes that is pretty sad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 05/13/24 3:30:54 AM #10:	LonelyStoner posted... Almost impossible unless you make 3 figures or more a year. I think most people make over a hundred dollars per year. Or whatever other currency. <cite>Glob posted [p:980370139] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>LonelyStoner posted... </cite><quote>Almost impossible unless you make 3 figures or more a year.</quote>I think most people make over a hundred dollars per year. Or whatever other currency.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 05/13/24 3:33:08 AM #11:	almost impossible --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:980370149] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>almost impossible </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 05/13/24 4:24:07 AM #12:	Glob posted... I think most people make over a hundred dollars per year. Or whatever other currency. Maybe it's the mid 19th century where they live? --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:980370343] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>Glob posted... </cite><quote>I think most people make over a hundred dollars per year. Or whatever other currency.</quote>Maybe it's the mid 19th century where they live? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
theAteam 05/13/24 4:58:42 AM #13:	People with normal salaries dont buy there --- Buffalo Bills <cite>theAteam posted [p:980370467] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>People with normal salaries dont buy there </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 05/13/24 5:15:27 AM #14:	thronedfire2 posted... well it's pretty unlikely without generational wealth, and it's only going to get worse. just work harder --- We suffer from the delusion that the entire universe is held in order by the categories of human thought. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:980370534] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted... </cite><quote>well it's pretty unlikely without generational wealth, and it's only going to get worse.</quote>just work harder </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hickey_Blvd46 05/13/24 9:36:32 PM #15:	theAteam posted... People with normal salaries dont buy there Lord its sad that you have to be in a rich family in order to own a house in a HCOL area no matter how hard you work --- Golden State Warriors \| SF Giants \| SF 49ers \| San Jose Sharks I Manny Pacquiao <cite>Hickey_Blvd46 posted [p:980382301] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>theAteam posted... </cite><quote>People with normal salaries dont buy there</quote>Lord its sad that you have to be in a rich family in order to own a house in a HCOL area no matter how hard you work </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vycebrand2 05/13/24 10:08:35 PM #16:	YoBlazer posted... The story you posted probably does sound like a dream scenario for some people, but you have to be very lucky and stumble into the opportunity. The odds of a young person buying in a cool market, then watching their equity explode in ten years as the market turns red-hot, and then cashing out to live the good life... are very slim. Even if you were sitting on a mountain of equity that you could cash out tax-free (married couples get 500k tax-free gain on the sale of their primary home, single people get 250k), you'd still need to be willing to relocate far away, and many people have things preventing them from doing that. I can actually use my brother's neighborhood as an example. In 2021, he bought a very modest house in an area of Los Angeles county that was clearly working class (mostly 3 bedrooms, all built before 1950), but since it's LA, these simple homes are still worth like 900k now. When I look around his street, I notice that all of his neighbors are normal blue-collar folks who bought these homes decades ago, when it was affordable for average-income earners to actually do that. They're now sitting on mountains of equity, yet hardly any of them move out. All the areas around them have grown more expensive too, so like you said, they'd have to move to completely new places at this stage of their life. Also, their grown children, who usually live with them because they are priced out of getting their own places, would be totally screwed. So you have situations where the house is worth a million bucks, but it's a cluttered piece of crap with multiple generations living inside and like five cars parked outside. They could move to the country buy a house and acreage for a 3rd of that equity and have 600k left --- I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me- <cite>vycebrand2 posted [p:980382741] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>YoBlazer posted... </cite><quote>The story you posted probably does sound like a dream scenario for some people, but you have to be very lucky and stumble into the opportunity. The odds of a young person buying in a cool market, then watching their equity explode in ten years as the market turns red-hot, and then cashing out to live the good life... are very slim. Even if you were sitting on a mountain of equity that you could cash out tax-free (married couples get 500k tax-free gain on the sale of their primary home, single people get 250k), you'd still need to be willing to relocate far away, and many people have things preventing them from doing that. I can actually use my brother's neighborhood as an example. In 2021, he bought a very modest house in an area of Los Angeles county that was clearly working class (mostly 3 bedrooms, all built before 1950), but since it's LA, these simple homes are still worth like 900k now. When I look around his street, I notice that all of his neighbors are normal blue-collar folks who bought these homes decades ago, when it was affordable for average-income earners to actually do that. They're now sitting on mountains of equity, yet hardly any of them move out. All the areas around them have grown more expensive too, so like you said, they'd have to move to completely new places at this stage of their life. Also, their grown children, who usually live with them because they are priced out of getting their own places, would be totally screwed. So you have situations where the house is worth a million bucks, but it's a cluttered piece of crap with multiple generations living inside and like five cars parked outside.</quote>They could move to the country buy a house and acreage for a 3rd of that equity and have 600k left </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Luigi_and_Tails 05/13/24 10:15:08 PM #17:	I live and work in London. Yes. It happens. Edit: I earn about the average household income for London. I live alone. --- No, I'm not that one. <cite>Luigi_and_Tails posted [p:980382820] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>I live and work in London. Yes. It happens.Edit: I earn about the average household income for London. I live alone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus 05/13/24 10:23:22 PM #18:	If people making average salaries want a house their best bet is to move out of expensive areas. Or struggle paying rent that'll go up until you die. --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:980382954] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>If people making average salaries want a house their best bet is to move out of expensive areas. Or struggle paying rent that'll go up until you die. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 05/13/24 10:32:51 PM #19:	LeoRavus posted... If people making average salaries want a house their best bet is to move out of expensive areas. Or struggle paying rent that'll go up until you die. You can't expect everyone that wants to own a house to move to fucking Bumfuck, Idaho. --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:980383087] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>LeoRavus posted... </cite><quote>If people making average salaries want a house their best bet is to move out of expensive areas. Or struggle paying rent that'll go up until you die.</quote>You can't expect everyone that wants to own a house to move to fucking Bumfuck, Idaho. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 05/13/24 10:40:50 PM #20:	DarthAragorn posted... You can't expect everyone that wants to own a house to move to fucking Bumfuck, Idaho. Not all cheap places are like that. Leaving the US helps. <cite>Glob posted [p:980383230] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>You can't expect everyone that wants to own a house to move to fucking Bumfuck, Idaho.</quote>Not all cheap places are like that. Leaving the US helps.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 05/13/24 10:43:24 PM #21:	Easy if you're rich. Impossible if you're poor. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:980383264] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>Easy if you're rich. Impossible if you're poor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 05/13/24 10:45:12 PM #22:	Really unlikely, until something changes. Both house prices and loan interest rates are much higher than they used to be. My mom was making somewhere around $80k annually when she bought her house. If I were to buy her house now, at it's current value, I'd need to make nearly $200k annually just to afford the mortgage (not even counting utilities and food). Even worse if I try to buy into a more expensive neighborhood than hers. LeoRavus posted... If people making average salaries want a house their best bet is to move out of expensive areas. Or struggle paying rent that'll go up until you die. The problem though is your job. I live in Los Angeles, and the houses in most parts of LA are over $700k now. If I move way out to the valley, like Temecula, Hemet, or Beaumont, then there are more houses in the $300k to $600k range. But if I can't find a good paying job out there, now I'm commuting 2+ hours every day to my current job. When I was younger, one of my mom's co-workers did that. Bought a house in the valley and then commuted 80 miles one way to work. He hated that commute --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:980383289] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>Really unlikely, until something changes. Both house prices and loan interest rates are much higher than they used to be. My mom was making somewhere around $80k annually when she bought her house. If I were to buy her house now, at it's current value, I'd need to make nearly $200k annually just to afford the mortgage (not even counting utilities and food). Even worse if I try to buy into a more expensive neighborhood than hers.LeoRavus posted... </cite><quote>If people making average salaries want a house their best bet is to move out of expensive areas. Or struggle paying rent that'll go up until you die.</quote>The problem though is your job. I live in Los Angeles, and the houses in most parts of LA are over $700k now. If I move way out to the valley, like Temecula, Hemet, or Beaumont, then there are more houses in the $300k to $600k range. But if I can't find a good paying job out there, now I'm commuting 2+ hours every day to my current job. When I was younger, one of my mom's co-workers did that. Bought a house in the valley and then commuted 80 miles one way to work. He hated that commute </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 05/13/24 10:46:14 PM #23:	Glob posted... Not all cheap places are like that. Leaving the US helps. Damn. strong contender for dumbest post I'll see all week, and I read the topic where the dude admitted to agreeing that his race was superior to others. --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:980383306] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>Glob posted... </cite><quote>Not all cheap places are like that. Leaving the US helps.</quote>Damn. strong contender for dumbest post I'll see all week, and I read the topic where the dude admitted to agreeing that his race was superior to others. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 05/13/24 10:47:18 PM #24:	DarthAragorn posted... Damn. strong contender for dumbest post I'll see all week, and I read the topic where the dude admitted to agreeing that his race was superior to others. Why do you think its dumb to suggest that leaving the US might be an option worth considering? <cite>Glob posted [p:980383321] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>Damn. strong contender for dumbest post I'll see all week, and I read the topic where the dude admitted to agreeing that his race was superior to others.</quote>Why do you think its dumb to suggest that leaving the US might be an option worth considering?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 05/13/24 10:48:11 PM #25:	Glob posted... Why do you think its dumb to suggest that leaving the US might be an option worth considering? Why do you think it isn't dumb to suggest that people that can't afford to live in the US are somehow going to be legally taken in by other countries? --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:980383328] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>Glob posted... </cite><quote>Why do you think its dumb to suggest that leaving the US might be an option worth considering?</quote>Why do you think it isn't dumb to suggest that people that can't afford to live in the US are somehow going to be legally taken in by other countries? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 05/13/24 10:50:11 PM #26:	Glob posted... Why do you think its dumb to suggest that leaving the US might be an option worth considering? For one, cost, second who'd allow you to move in? Do you think Europe nations would welcome you in with open arms? Especially if you're too poor to afford a home in the US? Do you realize what's happening across the globe at all? Most nations are shutting off most immigration and are being headed by fascists who only want their citizens in their country. So unless a job is paying you to live there, you're not just moving to Italy, France, Spain, UK, Hungary, or Poland. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:980383352] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>Glob posted... </cite><quote>Why do you think its dumb to suggest that leaving the US might be an option worth considering?</quote>For one, cost, second who'd allow you to move in? Do you think Europe nations would welcome you in with open arms? Especially if you're too poor to afford a home in the US? Do you realize what's happening across the globe at all? Most nations are shutting off most immigration and are being headed by fascists who only want their citizens in their country. So unless a job is paying you to live there, you're not just moving to Italy, France, Spain, UK, Hungary, or Poland. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 05/13/24 10:53:51 PM #28:	I legitimately can't get over how monumentally fucking stupid that was. Like you think someone that can't afford property here can just fly to a random country, get a job and documentation and just buy a house? --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:980383408] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>I legitimately can't get over how monumentally fucking stupid that was. Like you think someone that can't afford property here can just fly to a random country, get a job and documentation and just buy a house? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 05/13/24 10:55:25 PM #29:	ClayGuida posted... For one, cost, second who'd allow you to move in? Do you think Europe nations would welcome you in with open arms? Especially if you're too poor to afford a home in the US? Do you realize what's happening across the globe at all? Most nations are shutting off most immigration and are being headed by fascists who only want their citizens in their country. So unless a job is paying you to live there, you're not just moving to Italy, France, Spain, UK, Hungary, or Poland. Theres a lot to unpack there. Firstly, I never said anything about Europe. But yes, a number of European nations would welcome me with open arms. Is that true for everybody? No, but I never tried to claim it would be. The idea that you need lots of money to move to another country is just bogus. As with many things, it will help, of course. But I moved to another country not so long ago and that cost me a grand total of sweet fuck all. Unless a job is paying you to live there? Thats pretty much how all employment works, is it not? Yes, if you want to move to another country, the first step is probably to get a job if youre not super rich, but thats true of any sort of significant move. <cite>Glob posted [p:980383422] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>ClayGuida posted... </cite><quote>For one, cost, second who'd allow you to move in? Do you think Europe nations would welcome you in with open arms? Especially if you're too poor to afford a home in the US? Do you realize what's happening across the globe at all? Most nations are shutting off most immigration and are being headed by fascists who only want their citizens in their country. So unless a job is paying you to live there, you're not just moving to Italy, France, Spain, UK, Hungary, or Poland.</quote>Theres a lot to unpack there. Firstly, I never said anything about Europe. But yes, a number of European nations would welcome me with open arms. Is that true for everybody? No, but I never tried to claim it would be.The idea that you need lots of money to move to another country is just bogus. As with many things, it will help, of course. But I moved to another country not so long ago and that cost me a grand total of sweet fuck all.Unless a job is paying you to live there? Thats pretty much how all employment works, is it not? Yes, if you want to move to another country, the first step is probably to get a job if youre not super rich, but thats true of any sort of significant move.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 05/13/24 10:55:50 PM #30:	Hickey_Blvd46 posted... marry someone who has a lot of money Kinda what I did. My wife, while not rich, had over $100k in savings from living with her parents in her 20s and just paying them a few hundred a month --- Currently playing: Nothing, I'll start again after my honeymoon <cite>bsp77 posted [p:980383428] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>Hickey_Blvd46 posted... </cite><quote>marry someone who has a lot of money</quote>Kinda what I did. My wife, while not rich, had over $100k in savings from living with her parents in her 20s and just paying them a few hundred a month </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 05/13/24 10:57:09 PM #31:	DarthAragorn posted... I legitimately can't get over how monumentally fucking stupid that was. Like you think someone that can't afford property here can just fly to a random country, get a job and documentation and just buy a house? Thats not what I said at all. Firstly, the job normally comes before the flight. Secondly, I never said anything about just buying a house. However, the right kind of move could make it a much more realistic prospect. <cite>Glob posted [p:980383441] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>I legitimately can't get over how monumentally fucking stupid that was. Like you think someone that can't afford property here can just fly to a random country, get a job and documentation and just buy a house?</quote>Thats not what I said at all.Firstly, the job normally comes before the flight. Secondly, I never said anything about just buying a house. However, the right kind of move could make it a much more realistic prospect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus 05/13/24 10:58:15 PM #32:	DarthAragorn posted... You can't expect everyone that wants to own a house to move to fucking Bumfuck, Idaho. What can be done about it? People in high cost of living areas actually bid against each other paying more than the home owner was asking. The government regulating how much someone can offer for a house would set a dangerous precedent. There are places in the US not 100 miles from civilization where regular people buy homes. --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:980383461] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>You can't expect everyone that wants to own a house to move to fucking Bumfuck, Idaho.</quote>What can be done about it? People in high cost of living areas actually bid against each other paying more than the home owner was asking. The government regulating how much someone can offer for a house would set a dangerous precedent. There are places in the US not 100 miles from civilization where regular people buy homes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 05/13/24 11:00:02 PM #33:	LeoRavus posted... What can be done about it? People in high cost of living areas actually bid against each other paying more than the home owner was asking. The government regulating how much someone can offer for a house would set a dangerous precedent. They don't need to regulate normal people outbidding each other. They need to regulate companies being able to just come in and buy up housing for profit. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:980383492] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>LeoRavus posted... </cite><quote>What can be done about it? People in high cost of living areas actually bid against each other paying more than the home owner was asking. The government regulating how much someone can offer for a house would set a dangerous precedent.</quote>They don't need to regulate normal people outbidding each other. They need to regulate companies being able to just come in and buy up housing for profit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hickey_Blvd46 05/14/24 2:06:33 AM #34:	^that I 100% agree with --- Golden State Warriors \| SF Giants \| SF 49ers \| San Jose Sharks I Manny Pacquiao <cite>Hickey_Blvd46 posted [p:980385184] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>^that I 100% agree with </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eggcorn 05/14/24 2:50:50 AM #35:	They go super fast, so very likely. --- Warning: This post may contain triggering or distressing content. <cite>eggcorn posted [p:980385413] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>They go super fast, so very likely. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hickey_Blvd46 05/14/24 2:44:26 PM #36:	Bump --- Golden State Warriors \| SF Giants \| SF 49ers \| San Jose Sharks I Manny Pacquiao <cite>Hickey_Blvd46 posted [p:980392283] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>Bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 05/15/24 5:07:08 AM #37:	I notice those people who needlessly bashed my comment havent returned. <cite>Glob posted [p:980401136] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>I notice those people who needlessly bashed my comment havent returned. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 05/15/24 5:09:52 AM #38:	It really has nothing to do with cost --- updated 5/22/2023 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1568-100-presidents <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:980401147] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>It really has nothing to do with cost </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glob 05/15/24 6:33:06 PM #40:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] And yet if it was, youd be able to provide some reason why, rather than just trolling. <cite>Glob posted [p:980410692] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> And yet if it was, youd be able to provide some reason why, rather than just trolling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Glob 05/16/24 6:43:31 PM #42:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Not being able to buy a house is not the same as not being able to afford housing. Theres also the fact that a lot of jobs that hire people internationally will pay for your flights and your housing. Its clearly something that youre dismissing because you know nothing about it. Ive got experience of doing it. <cite>Glob posted [p:980426670] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Not being able to buy a house is not the same as not being able to afford housing. Theres also the fact that a lot of jobs that hire people internationally will pay for your flights and your housing. Its clearly something that youre dismissing because you know nothing about it. Ive got experience of doing it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 05/16/24 6:45:44 PM #43:	"you can't afford a house? why not try moving 15,000 miles after jumping through all the hoops and maybe finding a country that accepts Americans in general, let alone poor Americans" "why are you calling my idea unrealistic " --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:980426713] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>"you can't afford a house? why not try moving 15,000 miles after jumping through all the hoops and maybe finding a country that accepts Americans in general, let alone poor Americans""why are you calling my idea unrealistic " </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TendoDRM 05/16/24 6:50:56 PM #44:	Glob posted... Not being able to buy a house is not the same as not being able to afford housing. Theres also the fact that a lot of jobs that hire people internationally will pay for your flights and your housing. Its clearly something that youre dismissing because you know nothing about it. Ive got experience of doing it. Yes, this is very useful information for the people working at my local Target. I'll go let them know that if they're having trouble affording rent, they should apply for international jobs in Vietnam or wherever. --- Cel Damage! Tonight at 8:00! <cite>TendoDRM posted [p:980426789] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>Glob posted... </cite><quote>Not being able to buy a house is not the same as not being able to afford housing. Theres also the fact that a lot of jobs that hire people internationally will pay for your flights and your housing. Its clearly something that youre dismissing because you know nothing about it. Ive got experience of doing it.</quote>Yes, this is very useful information for the people working at my local Target. I'll go let them know that if they're having trouble affording rent, they should apply for international jobs in Vietnam or wherever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 05/16/24 6:51:45 PM #45:	Glob posted... Not being able to buy a house is not the same as not being able to afford housing. Theres also the fact that a lot of jobs that hire people internationally will pay for your flights and your housing. Its clearly something that youre dismissing because you know nothing about it. Ive got experience of doing it. What the actual fuck do you think this topic is about Holy shit how does it get worse with every post --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:980426809] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>Glob posted... </cite><quote>Not being able to buy a house is not the same as not being able to afford housing. Theres also the fact that a lot of jobs that hire people internationally will pay for your flights and your housing. Its clearly something that youre dismissing because you know nothing about it. Ive got experience of doing it.</quote>What the actual fuck do you think this topic is aboutHoly shit how does it get worse with every post </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 05/16/24 7:04:14 PM #46:	TendoDRM posted... Yes, this is very useful information for the people working at my local Target. I'll go let them know that if they're having trouble affording rent, they should apply for international jobs in Vietnam or wherever. And thats moving the goalposts. But I never suggested it was a solution that works for everybody. Youve assumed a whole lot here and changed what were talking about in an effort to make my comment seem ridiculous. If youve had to do that, it cant have been all that ridiculous in the first place. DarthAragorn posted... What the actual fuck do you think this topic is about Holy shit how does it get worse with every post People who cant afford to buy a house because theyre expensive in the place they live. <cite>Glob posted [p:980427011] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>TendoDRM posted... </cite><quote>Yes, this is very useful information for the people working at my local Target. I'll go let them know that if they're having trouble affording rent, they should apply for international jobs in Vietnam or wherever.</quote>And thats moving the goalposts.But I never suggested it was a solution that works for everybody. Youve assumed a whole lot here and changed what were talking about in an effort to make my comment seem ridiculous. If youve had to do that, it cant have been all that ridiculous in the first place.DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>What the actual fuck do you think this topic is aboutHoly shit how does it get worse with every post</quote>People who cant afford to buy a house because theyre expensive in the place they live.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 05/17/24 6:27:32 PM #48:	"I never said it was a solution for everybody. It isn't even a solution for most people. It's maybe a solution for 10% of the population." "why does nobody like my solution" --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:980441235] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>"I never said it was a solution for everybody. It isn't even a solution for most people. It's maybe a solution for 10% of the population.""why does nobody like my solution" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 05/17/24 8:09:25 PM #49:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] As somebody who moved from a high cost of living area in the UK to a low cost of living area in Vietnam, Id say Ive got a better read of it than you guys have. Literally nothing youve said to attempt to refute my original statement has been of any value. <cite>Glob posted [p:980442543] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> As somebody who moved from a high cost of living area in the UK to a low cost of living area in Vietnam, Id say Ive got a better read of it than you guys have. Literally nothing youve said to attempt to refute my original statement has been of any value.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 05/17/24 8:31:59 PM #50:	No, it's you thinking "oh anyone can do it why don't they just do it are they stupid" just because you did it, which is dumb as fuck and it's getting worse every time you defecate all over your keyboard and post ITT. --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:980442856] in How likely... [t:80767847]...</cite> <quote>No, it's you thinking "oh anyone can do it why don't they just do it are they stupid" just because you did it, which is dumb as fuck and it's getting worse every time you defecate all over your keyboard and post ITT. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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