Current Events > It's still sad that we dont have many scifi jrpg's

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Star Ocean has scifi objects, but for some reason they still insist on sticking to ye olde European settings for these games, which baffles me.

Rogue Galaxy hardly had anything to do with space pirates, even thought the characters claimed they were. They just travel to stereotypical jrpg locales, like jungles and ancient ruins. There is one futuristic town with two of the worst dungeons in gaming. Another town is a ye olde European town, yet again.

The Xeno series, specifically Saga, is the only one that I feel embraced it the whole time. Spaceships, future tech, aliens, robots, androids, guns, computers, AI, VR, all that stuff. No peasant towns, no haunted forests, no goblins, king arthur swords, or knights.

Why is this such a rare thing for JRPGs. You would say it is because of their culture not having much scifi, but then explain FF7, Evangeleon, Xeno, etc.

western ones are almost nonexistent too

since mass effect we've basically just had starfield and that game was dogshit

phantasy star 4 is one of the best, 2 was pretty great as well for the time

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As far as i know, SO1-3 are very old European settings. Forests, caves, swords, magic. One character uses a blaster sometimes, but he is a fish out of water.

Rogue Galaxy is a huge shame. It starts promising. Spaceships, sandworms, etc. The space pirates dont do anything space piratey, besides calling themselves that. They just gather treasure on stereotypical planets themed after stereotypical jrpg tropes. Jungle. Beach. Temple. There is the one town that is futuristic, but for some reason, nothing else is. And that town has two dungeons which are just steel halls and a dank prison stage. I dont know why they couldnt stick with the scifi stuff, and devolved into tropey stuff.

solosnake posted...

phantasy star 4 is one of the best, 2 was pretty great as well for the time

It is, but it is pretty archaic today. I really wish there was something a little more visually interesting, like a ps1 era game. We did have Xenogears, ff7/8, and Xenosaga though. Xenosaga did it perfectly.

Star Ocean (unless you play IV) is the biggest tease for a sci-fi rpg. I thought when 3 came out it'd be a real sci-fi adventure. The twist didn't even bother me. I guess there's still Mass Effect.

does ff8 count?

Does cyberpunk count? Almost every Megami Tensei game.

solosnake posted...

does ff8 count?

I think 7/8 scratch the itch, but id like more star trek if that exists.

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Cyberpunk, sure. But Fallout hasn't had a main entry since 2015 and Deus Ex is literally dead.

ssjevot posted...

Does cyberpunk count? Almost every Megami Tensei game.

SMT is ok, but i should have specified, hi-scifi. Like Star Trek. Not so much like Cyberpunk.

Starfield
Nier Automata

Oh yeah the Battle Network and Digimon Cybersleuth games are also cyberpunk.

For a Western indie game styled like a JRPG you have Cosmic Star Heroine.

Oh and Baroque for weird ass creepy cyberpunk.

Yeah now I am getting confused, sci-fi involves space travel and such. Fuckin' SMT or Cyberpunk wut.....that's not at all what I'd think of.

Kamil posted...

Yeah now I am getting confused, sci-fi involves space travel and such. Fuckin' SMT or Cyberpunk wut.....that's not at all what I'd think of.

Or time travel. There has never been a rpg featuring time travel.

ablegator posted...

Or time travel. There has never been a rpg featuring time travel.

You serious

ablegator posted...

Or time travel. There has never been a rpg featuring time travel.

What

ablegator, you fail even trollin'.

_____Cait posted...

SMT is ok, but i should have specified, hi-scifi. Like Star Trek. Not so much like Cyberpunk.

Yeah Star Ocean, Xeno, and Phantasy Star are pretty much it for that category. And some indie games, like Cosmic Star Heroine.

ssjevot posted...

Yeah Star Ocean, Xeno, and Phantasy Star are pretty much it for that category. And some indie games, like Cosmic Star Heroine.

and Starfield

solosnake posted...

and Starfield

He specifically said JRPG. That's barely even a Western RPG.

ssjevot posted...

Cosmic Star Heroine.

If you want a Sega CD esque game that goes super fast it is worth playing. I liked it but I never finished it because just it went way too fast. Jack Move can be beaten in 10 hours or less, it's a Cyber Punk game it's fine.I like it but Cosmic Star Heroine minor spoilers f was fighting all this crazy shit and then a villian just suddenly joined my party with no explanation. It also had a damn Chrono Trigger fair too. It was just odd. Let me chill. I think that is a trademark of the studio games but just I left a club I thought that was dramatic enough. Slow down.

Shadow run might count I guess. But yeah, for jrpgs you've got slim pickings.

I never got around to putting the time into it, and its more jrpg adjacent but the Front Mission games seemed to have world building besides just painting an RPG with sci fi tropes.

ablegator posted...

I never got around to putting the time into it, and its more jrpg adjacent but the Front Mission games seemed to have world building besides just painting an RPG with sci fi tropes.

Front Mission was pretty cool. I love games about big bulky mechs. Armored core too.

ablegator posted...

Or time travel. There has never been a rpg featuring time travel.

Chrono Trigger and Radiant Historia, to name two.

applegator finally posted something worthwhile! How Irony :P I really wanted to play Front Mission 5 more, I have a translated ISO, but I somehow slipped up on recruiting some schlub from Front Mission 4 and that really bothered me years ago.

infinite space on the DS

Given the enemy type and established world, a turn based Metroid universe RPG could be fun.

What I really crave is an rpg with multiple planets, spaceships, everyone using futuristic weapons, and some nonhumanoid party members. I want party members even less humanoid than things like Krogan. I want stuff like Hanar or Rachni.

Radiant Historia for sure, I had that in my quote log. Pissed I never finished that. I got that for free off a board hunter here. He just sent it to me. I thought I was thorough. Oh well.

Kamil posted...

Star Ocean (unless you play IV) is the biggest tease for a sci-fi rpg. I thought when 3 came out it'd be a real sci-fi adventure. The twist didn't even bother me. I guess there's still Mass Effect.

Well at least for 3 you actually spend a huge chunk of time not on a backwater planet.

Kamil posted...

Radiant Historia for sure, I had that in my quote log. Pissed I never finished that. I got that for free off a board hunter here. He just sent it to me. I thought I was thorough. Oh well.

That game is more steampunk euro/castle stuff with a time travel element.

I may laugh at star ocean 4's main story a lot, but I legit do appreciate it for being that one star ocean game where you go from planet to planet a lot and having a ro-bro for a party member. I also liked how the main party hang out spot was your ship, and being able to room with whoever........or basically just reimi.

Oh man I got a good answer. SaGa. A lot of the games are sci-fi like you seem to want. Robots, spaceships, time travel, etc. Many of them are fantasy (mainly the Romancing SaGa games), but many are also sci-fi (especially SaGa 2 and 3 as well as SaGa Frontier).

I think it's sort of stretching the definition of "jrpg" past its breaking point but you should play 13 sentinels

kirbymuncher posted...

I think it's sort of stretching the definition of "jrpg" past its breaking point but you should play 13 sentinels

Yeah that's a great game. Though the actual gameplay part is a RTS/turn based strategy hybrid.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d18c0b06.jpg

_____Cait posted...

SMT is ok, but i should have specified, hi-scifi. Like Star Trek. Not so much like Cyberpunk.

How do you define "hard" sci-fi, exactly? I love Trek, in all its flavors, but if someone asked me to recommend them hard sci-fi, I'd say to go watch something like The Expanse.

You can't exactly call Trek soft or space opera, it's not like that space wizard franchise, after all. But I've just never filed it away in my mind as a "hard" sf series.

DnDer posted...

How do you define "hard" sci-fi, exactly? I love Trek, in all its flavors, but if someone asked me to recommend them hard sci-fi, I'd say to go watch something like The Expanse.

You can't exactly call Trek soft or space opera, it's not like that space wizard franchise, after all. But I've just never filed it away in my mind as a "hard" sf series.

Personally, hi-tech, interstellar locations or futuristic travel, no medieval stuff, aliens, advanced robots or ai, no classic swords and shields stuff.

Xenosaga, yes.
Star Ocean 2, no. It has scifi elements, but it meanders in classic tropes