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Enchantress 05/14/24 12:45:37 PM #1: |
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1. Ben 2. Blade 3. Chang 4. Ctes 5. FD 6. IGCD 7. Kirby 8. MI 9. Ulti Expelled: [LD1] Knightz - Evil Abed, MAFIA Roleblocking Rolecop Dreamateer [LD2] Wallz - Evil Annie, MAFIA Framing Doppelganger [KN2] Isquen - Garret, TOWN Vanilla [LD3] Corrik - Quendra, TOWN Vanilla [KN3] Sbell - Annie Edison, TOWN Forensics Investigator [LD4] Peaf - Subway, TOWN Vanilla [KN4] Mzero (Taco) - Leonard, TOWN Taunter [LD5] Red - Vicki, TOWN Vanilla [KD6] Death - Todd, TOWN Vanilla Vanished: [VD1] Lopen - ??? With nine alive, it takes five to lynch. Day ends Wednesday, May 15th at 6 PM EST. --- Lea ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 4:01:41 AM #2: |
"Ctes is mafia that gave up his powers to scan innocent no matter how he has done so multiple times since so probably scum teams pays votes to gain powers all together a mechanic we have literally never seen anything close to before but no way could he just simply scan innocent because he is town"
This must also be what you believe now Ulti with that trash vote. But to thoae that believe I scan guilty altogeher it is still "uncountered cop probably has the janitored role and immediately claimed a scan on a teammate that doesn't scan innocent even though that could make the whole idea fall apart" on of no good explanation for why I don't have a vote today other than you know the one I gave. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 4:02:56 AM #3: |
It is deeply frustrating having four days of play ignored entirely because you are too fixated on this role in a game where you are told metaing is stupid. It almost makes me wish I did bet my life.
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 4:05:29 AM #4: |
Blade, if you are town and I have lynched, you are fully taking responsible for town throwing you like to accuse people for. No figuring out a way to throw that responsibility elsewhere, no more of this unjustified pride after defending the flipped scum and only calling flipped town too late in the day. You swallow all that entirely in this case.
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 4:07:28 AM #5: |
I am honestly unsure what MI did with everything on the table to remove himself for being considered by most people. Because he has to be considered with all we know.
I mean yeah regardless of his alignment scum would rather have me lynched, that's obvious, but it can't be only scum shifting focus. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 4:09:17 AM #6: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
Blade, if you are town and I have lynched, you are fully taking responsible for town throwing you like to accuse people for. No figuring out a way to throw that responsibility elsewhere, no more of this unjustified pride after defending the flipped scum and only calling flipped town too late in the day. You swallow all that entirely in this case. Also add to this that you still have given no explanation for tying me to Death whatsoever. Probably because there is none but it's a ridiculous question to ignore. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 4:12:18 AM #7: |
On top of what I wrote above, what is all you meta hungry people's explanation for the redirected heart? Red flipped town, you know he definitely received it. What is the idea there?
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 4:17:32 AM #8: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
I am honestly unsure what MI did with everything on the table to remove himself for being considered by most people. Because he has to be considered with all we know. Death apparently felt the same on is way out so there was town in thinking it, I am legitimately curious. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 4:18:49 AM #9: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
I mean yeah regardless of his alignment scum would rather have me lynched, that's obvious, but it can't be only scum shifting focus. And seriously, if a scum has managed to get deep into the town clears which is looking pretty likely, then they want to eliminate the ability that can catch them no matter how well hidden they are, which I have. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 4:23:43 AM #10: |
It's part of why I would go after Blade if only looking at days, he set up some explanation that straight up makes no sense to go after me on a Death town flip which he highly anticipated despite humoring the opposite a bunch of times. It looks so bad, and it's not the first time he has drawn lines that make no sense.
It would have to mean they no killed to confirm him last night so I can't really argue it in good faith. Regardless, it's still manipulating town to bad ideas. Also that if x is alive at final whatever thing Blade loves to mention applies more to himself than anyone. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 4:30:19 AM #11: |
So MZero also didn't taunt Death.
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 4:32:47 AM #12: |
I mean him shooting directly wouldn't be the weirdest thing anymore.
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 4:33:02 AM #13: |
Being shot directly that should read
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TotallyNotMI 05/15/24 7:43:18 AM #15: |
PunishedBen posted...
He is directly responding to Ulti's vote when he claims. A claim that he was not ready for, and the scum team did not have ready to go for him And yet, despite that, Ulti ended the day begging people to lynch me instead! I wonder why. Maybe after you lynch me you guys will realize that Ulti bounced wildly back and forth between opinions on me again because he actually doesn't care. Maybe. --- We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotallyNotMI 05/15/24 8:49:15 AM #17: |
PunishedBen posted...
Both of you (MI And Blade) are saying Ulti is scum. Do you have anything to say about the posts I pulled up last night? Tons of people piled on Knightz, myself included, very early. I remember early on D1 saying to him 'don't feel bad, rolling scum is hard'. And, like I just said, Ulti might have been involved on the Knightz push, but Ulti isn't above bussing and Ulti tried hard to get me lynched instead of Knightz EOD. I don't believe Ulti's excuse of 'that was never really going to happen'. But basically if you're going to clear Ulti based on how he treated Knightz, I honestly feel I deserve the same treatment. So if you're going to lynch me today you can't clear him based on that! --- We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 8:58:42 AM #18: |
The switch away from Knightz was a big reason why I built a big case on Ulti a couple of days ago. I just really don't feel like the swap on red and I can happen if that wasn't to circumvent Ulti somehow while most likely aiming for protection.
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 9:05:16 AM #19: |
If MZero was not shot directly, we can infer he did not taunt red, death, ben, blade, ctes, FD, IGCD, Kirby or Ulti (Blade is possible if you don't trust his protection claim but yeah). Chang and MI are possible.
Use that as you will. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 05/15/24 9:07:59 AM #20: |
TotallyNotMI posted...
Tons of people piled on Knightz, myself included, very early. I remember early on D1 saying to him 'don't feel bad, rolling scum is hard'.Oh sorry, new topic. I agree that Ulti can't be cleared based on how he treated knightz. I'm clearing him based on how Knightz reacted to him. It scared him enough to claim. And I also think the Wallz post where he provides a fake read on Ulti and says Ulti is either power or scum can't be scum/scum --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotallyNotMI 05/15/24 9:10:13 AM #21: |
PunishedBen posted...
And I also think the Wallz post where he provides a fake read on Ulti and says Ulti is either power or scum can't be scum/scumUlti: Hey guys, I'm gonna fake power. Wallz: Cool I'll post a read to support that. --- We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 05/15/24 9:10:38 AM #22: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
And seriously, if a scum has managed to get deep into the town clears which is looking pretty likely, then they want to eliminate the ability that can catch them no matter how well hidden they are, which I have. Ctes, with all due respect, you're delusional if you think your role has any value whatsoever in this current game state. Best you can offer without risking your own life is a prosty scan that'd only be useful on Chang or IGCD (or MI if he's still alive by that point). You're practically a French Vanilla at this point. You're not even remotely threatening to scum until you get a vig shot or a prosty scan, and the game just might be over by the time that even happens. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 05/15/24 9:15:53 AM #23: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
If MZero was not shot directly, we can infer he did not taunt red, death, ben, blade, ctes, FD, IGCD, Kirby or Ulti (Blade is possible if you don't trust his protection claim but yeah). Chang and MI are possible. He could have taunted Ben. His neighborize is a day action, so MZero couldn't have redirected it until the next day. But MZero was dead before that could even happen. Same with IGCD, who didn't have his shot until way after MZero was dead. I like this point regardless. But realistically, we only know for sure that MZero didn't taunt me (I roleblocked Ulti) or FD (Red was confirmed to receive FD's love). If Ulti was taunted, he didn't deliver the kill. But that's it. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kirby321 05/15/24 9:19:23 AM #24: |
Obviously, if MZero taunted his killer, then the killer isn't gonna say that. And with SBell dead, there's not a huge risk in faking a night action on someone else.
But there's too much ambiguity there. We just know for 100% certain that neither I, FD, nor Ulti fired the shot that killed MZero. --- Kirby321 is 60% epicsauce, 40% epic failure Soo... how was your day? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forceful_Dragon 05/15/24 9:19:24 AM #25: |
Kirby321 posted...
we only know for sure that MZero didn't taunt me Honestly almost everyone ctes listed could have been taunted, even you. Your jailer role is faster than MZero's taunt, so you could have still jailed ulti and had only the NK taunted by MZero. Now imo you're hella town for a bunch of other reasons, but the point remains that nearly anyone could have been MZero's target. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotallyNotMI 05/15/24 9:21:24 AM #26: |
Gee, I wonder why ctes would post something with such poor logic that he tried to use to clear everyone but me? Hmm.
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 9:26:04 AM #27: |
Kirby321 posted...
Ctes, with all due respect, you're delusional if you think your role has any value whatsoever in this current game state. Best you can offer without risking your own life is a prosty scan that'd only be useful on Chang or IGCD (or MI if he's still alive by that point). It has potential to be. But sure, it did lose a bunch of it by full claiming, which is why I hesitated. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 9:28:31 AM #28: |
TotallyNotMI posted...
Gee, I wonder why ctes would post something with such poor logic that he tried to use to clear everyone but me? Hmm. Quit this attitude please, there was fine logic for all those. You have used trash logic yourself a bunch of times. If you actually disagreed you could explain why, instead you come with an arrogant post. Although I had forgotten Kirbys jailkeep could work before. That's a bit iffy, I read the priority list as it as it can still be taunted but that MZero can be blocked. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotallyNotMI 05/15/24 9:31:57 AM #30: |
Nah. If after I've said not to kill peaf, Red and death and no one listened and you all still want to lynch me you get what attitude you get because I'm done :)
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 9:33:29 AM #32: |
Red: MZero said he was town as one of the last things. This means he didn't taunt me due to redirect.
Ctes: Red was town vanilla so he didn't taunt me which would have hit red. Death: Wasn't taunted because confirmed vanilla. Ben: MZero was very sure he was town the day before as well. Blade: Confirmed protection by last night and MZero died. FD: Red received the heart. Kirby: Jailkept Ulti, although I see the priority argument, so you can remove him from here if you want. Ulti: Jailkept thus couldn't commit the kill. I currently forget why I included IGCD actually, was that just because of last night maybe? In any case, none of that is bad logic, all pretty simple cases. I did note that if you think he could have been shut directly it all falls apart. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 9:38:31 AM #36: |
TotallyNotMI posted...
Nah. If after I've said not to kill peaf, Red and death and no one listened and you all still want to lynch me you get what attitude you get because I'm done :) You're using insane logic for your scum case on me while calling these pretty simple reasons to think who MZero didn't taunt poor logic, without elaborating. I can humble brag about having been right about a bunch of dead players, who cares. Also you spent most day scumbuilding Red which was a big part of the momentum that got him lynched, while ignoring me among others, that you started showing a bit of doubt near the end and voted for the other train way too late doesn't mean you can come in today and act like you defended that lynch whatsoever. You have share in that one. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 05/15/24 9:39:28 AM #37: |
IfGodCouldDie posted...
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TotallyNotMI 05/15/24 9:40:08 AM #38: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
A response to post 14 would be nice. Who are the 3 scum in the 3 power after I narrow it down to 4 people? FD and Ben both would be a massive stretch.Nah. No one's mind is going to be changed so there's no reason for is to talk in circles for the next 8 hours. Let's just lynch and move on. --- We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotallyNotMI 05/15/24 9:42:25 AM #39: |
Especially because when scum vote stops someone other than ctes if they have three left the game is over after you lynch me so please let's end this abomination
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 9:42:44 AM #40: |
Kirby321 posted...
Ctes, with all due respect, you're delusional if you think your role has any value whatsoever in this current game state. Best you can offer without risking your own life is a prosty scan that'd only be useful on Chang or IGCD (or MI if he's still alive by that point). This post is actually super frustrating after I spent a day saying exactly this but people kept saying "what are you talking about you can still do all the same things" lol. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 9:44:55 AM #41: |
Say I am lynched today, MI. I flip town bookie. Where do you go from there?
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changmas 05/15/24 9:49:01 AM #42: |
PunishedBen posted...
Yo wait a minute. Yes, I did tell Ben my entire day 2 plan in our night chat. But Ben, you should know this post isn't a good defense of yourself. For multiple reasons
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TotallyNotMI 05/15/24 9:49:13 AM #43: |
I will not be entertaining these hypotheticals today, thanks. Let's end the day.
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Forceful_Dragon 05/15/24 9:49:47 AM #44: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
This post is actually super frustrating after I spent a day saying exactly this but people kept saying "what are you talking about you can still do all the same things" lol. It does not have anything to do with the fact that you claimed. If you are telling the truth and and the role is real, then the role just sucks and it takes luck almost to get anything out of it. It would basically never be worthwhile to bet your own life and the rewards otherwise are meager. It's just a bad role. Your insistence that scum would somehow be hurt by your claim that you can benefit from predicting the night kill after 4 failed attempts to predict the night kill is the part that doesn't make sense. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TotallyNotMI 05/15/24 9:50:42 AM #45: |
Forceful_Dragon posted...
It does not have anything to do with the fact that you claimed. If you are telling the truth and and the role is real, then the role just sucks and it takes luck almost to get anything out of it. It would basically never be worthwhile to bet your own life and the rewards otherwise are meager. It's just a bad role.Remember he also claimed that at Mylo he still wouldn't full claim because it would weaken him too much! --- We do not have much connection, you and I. Still, this encounter feels special. I hope you won't mind if I think of you as a friend. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 9:54:40 AM #46: |
TotallyNotMI posted...
I will not be entertaining these hypotheticals today, thanks. Let's end the day. It's a shame that you lost your interest in playing I suppose, if that is truly because you were right about some people that were town being lynched, then honestly I don't care a lot. But just basically saying "your logic is bad, I refuse to elaborate" while also not engaging with counterpoints to your own logic is just sad. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Enchantress 05/15/24 9:55:11 AM #47: |
Last night I learned Stage Falls and Rolls and Now I Can't Move Votals
[3] MI - Kirby, Ben, Ulti [2] Ctes - Blade, MI, (Ulti) [1] Ben - (Ulti), FD [0] Ulti - (Blade) [0] Chang - (Ulti) [0] FD - (Ulti) With nine alive it takes five to lynch. Day ends Wednesday, May 15th at 6 PM EST --- Lea ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 9:56:48 AM #48: |
Forceful_Dragon posted...
Your insistence that scum would somehow be hurt by your claim that you can benefit from predicting the night kill after 4 failed attempts to predict the night kill is the part that doesn't make sense. I have explained it lots of times. You don't agree. But can you really not at least see how less players left and more claims open gives the role better chances of guessing correctly? --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 05/15/24 10:00:22 AM #49: |
I expressed doubt about it ahen I said that about mylo, but it's the same point. At that point you have the best chances og guessing right, but they worsen if scum knows to play around it.
I also stand by that me giving full information about my role isn't really helping town a lot either. It's too convoluted that you can really use it to figure any big picture, so the upsides of claiming isn't really that great either. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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