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It has, but at the end of the day, what would you say is better to deal with: Diagnosed and Treated mental health disorders, or undiagnosed and untreated ones?

Money has very little to do with happiness after your essential needs are satisfied. The happiness return on money greatly diminishes after $75,000 annually, though the number probably isn't adjusted for inflation since the pandemic.

R_Jackal posted...

It has, but at the end of the day, what would you say is better to deal with: Diagnosed and Treated mental health disorders, or undiagnosed and untreated ones?

bruh what are you even arguing at this point

No shit youd rather have your problems diagnosed and attempt to treat them, that doesnt make them disappear

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

bruh what are you even arguing at this point

No shit youd rather have your problems diagnosed and attempt to treat them, that doesnt make them disappear

"Money doesn't help mental illness, except in the case that it's way easier to find out what is actually wrong with you and help treat it if possible.". There might be some relation there.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

bruh what are you even arguing at this point

No shit youd rather have your problems diagnosed and attempt to treat them, that doesnt make them disappear

So it's useless unless it's a panacea? Rich people are better off. I have not one tear to spare for their problems.

R_Jackal posted...

"Money doesn't help mental illness, except in the case that it's way easier to find out what is actually wrong with you and help treat it if possible.". There might be some relation there.

Again, access to treatment does not mean you are cured. These struggles are still just as valid as someone who cant afford treatment. Thats the entire argument.

Daremo posted...

So it's useless unless it's a panacea? Rich people are better off. I have not one tear to spare for their problems.

It could be useless, yes. Mental illness is not just cured because you attempt to treat it. You need to educate yourself.

Again, having gone through horrible depression at what shouldve been a high time in my life, I will spare tears for anyone going through something similar. Not a single human being should ever have to go through mental illness and i have sympathy for all of them.

UnsteadyOwl posted...

I've seen a study before testing the old saying that money doesn't buy happiness which found that it sort of is and isn't true. There are unhappy rich people, but most people's level of happiness in life does go up as their income goes up. So it's probably better to say money doesn't guarantee happiness, but it does go a long way toward making you happier.

The research that Ive come across in the past suggested that yes, people with higher levels of income are happier, but only up to a certain threshold and its lower than people expect it to be.

Obviously these figures wont necessarily be correct today, but it as something like once you got over about 70k per year it stopped making any difference to happiness.

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All rich people have access to secret, more effective therapies OBVIOUSLY

R_Jackal posted...

"Money doesn't help mental illness, except in the case that it's way easier to find out what is actually wrong with you and help treat it if possible.". There might be some relation there.

Is this the world we live in? Where literally no one but the rich even know what is wrong with them? Literally no one gets healthcare AT ALL because it would instantly bankrupt them and ruin their lives?

No line for worrying your kids maybe fuck ups?

hockeybabe89 posted...

All rich people have access to secret, more effective therapies OBVIOUSLY

You mean the latest, more expensive, cutting edge therapies? And no, they're not all going to work, but it's a leg up most people don't have access to.

hockeybabe89 posted...

Is this the world we live in? Where literally no one but the rich even know what is wrong with them? Literally no one gets healthcare AT ALL because it would instantly bankrupt them and ruin their lives?

Pretty close to, yes. Money equates to higher quality care. Also that was intentionally two extremes, there's naturally a variety of outcomes.

My heart fucking bleeds for them

R_Jackal posted...

Pretty close to, yes. Money equates to higher quality care. Also that was intentionally two extremes, there's naturally a variety of outcomes.

And you should shut the fuck up and let people who know what they're talking about correct you.

Or at least stop thinking you're cool because you are a heartless nihilist

Daremo posted...

You mean the latest, more expensive, cutting edge therapies? And no, they're not all going to work, but it's a leg up most people don't have access to.

"noooo all therapy is dumb and pointless" - I, a temporarily embarrassed millionaire

Daremo posted...

You mean the latest, more expensive, cutting edge therapies? And no, they're not all going to work, but it's a leg up most people don't have access to.

Maybe taking pleasure in actors killing themselves isn't going to fix the American healthcare system

Kaiser-Mazoku posted...

"noooo all therapy is dumb and pointless" - I, a temporarily embarrassed millionaire

So have you read up on what therapy and treatment for mental illness actually entails?

Or do you still think money takes care of such things?

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

So have you read up on what therapy and treatment for mental illness actually entails?

Dude gets real pissy when you question his non-existent qualifications.

oh no

they have all the problems regular people have without all the financial problems that regular people have

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

So have you read up on what therapy and treatment for mental illness actually entails?

Or do you still think money takes care of such things?

Even better, I've gone through it myself!

hockeybabe89 posted...

Maybe taking pleasure in actors killing themselves isn't going to fix the American healthcare system

Well, that's a leap.

Perhaps the one in need of therapy here is you. The kind of mind that thinks that's a reasonable place to take this is definitely in need of help of some kind.

Kaiser-Mazoku posted...

Even better, I've gone through it myself!

If youve truly gone through mental health treatment then your total lack of empathy for others going through the same thing is sickening.

Also is therapy and treatment not only for the rich like several have stated in this topic? Considering youve apparently gone through it too

Daremo posted...

Well, that's a leap.

Perhaps the one in need of therapy here is you. The kind of mind that thinks that's a reasonable place to take this is definitely in need of help of some kind.

well you're not wrong, consistently the angriest poster I have ever seen on this board

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

If youve truly gone through mental health treatment then your total lack of empathy for others going through the same thing is sickening.

I have empathy for others going through the same thing who have to choose between therapy and rent.

Kaiser-Mazoku posted...

I have empathy for others going through the same thing who have to choose between therapy and rent.

So not at all about the actual mental illness part. You do not care about that part. Fucking noted.

You've already quite literally said you dont see a reason why you should view rich people as human, this just further shows your horrible lack of empathy for those with mental illness.

damn it must suck to have money

Kaiser-Mazoku posted...

The richies will surely grant you those showers of gold any day now.

what the actual fuck dude

How can you type this out and act like youre somehow the moral one

How can you fully dehumanize someone and somehow think youre better than them

Being rich is inherently immoral.

Kaiser-Mazoku posted...

Being rich is inherently immoral.

Okay whats rich to you if this is where you want to take this.

Give me an amount.

Dungeater posted...

damn it must suck to have money

it's so hard

you might have inherited a fuckload of money and thats terrible

Kaiser-Mazoku posted...

Being rich is inherently immoral.

Oh really? At what point does it become immoral? Whats the threshold?

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Okay whats rich to you if this is where you want to take this.

Give me an amount.

name a billionaire who got there without exploiting people

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Okay whats rich to you if this is where you want to take this.

Give me an amount.

$9.5 million

thronedfire2 posted...

name a billionaire who got there without exploiting people

is billionaire the only definition of rich????

Ive literally already stated in this topic that billionaires cannot be created morally

Kaiser-Mazoku posted...

$9.5 million

so anyone with more than $9.5 million dollars to their name is immediately immoral until they drop below that, no matter how they got that money

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Yet hes still rich. His problems and struggles deserve to be heard.

This isnt even saying billionaires which basically cannot exist in a moral way, just rich people in general. What do you consider the minimum of being rich?

@thronedfire2

As you can see, ive already stated billionaires arent moral. Rich encompasses much more than billionaires

hockeybabe89 posted...

And you should shut the fuck up and let people who know what they're talking about correct you.

Or at least stop thinking you're cool because you are a heartless nihilist

I'm not a nihilist, and although I'm not a therapist I've likely far more experience with mental illness than most here, outside of those suffering first hand. This one aspect of my beliefs isn't all of me.

I have empathy for people with mental illness, I've no special empathy for people I don't know, celebrities, or people that have every possible advantage and don't try. I'm not going to pretend I care about people I will never know.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

is billionaire the only definition of rich????

Ive literally already stated in this topic that billionaires cannot be created morally

this article is talking about the top 1%

they own 45% of the entire world's wealth

thronedfire2 posted...

this article is talking about the top 1%

they own 45% of the entire world's wealth

This topic isnt really about the article tho

Nobody is arguing about billionaires. They can still struggle with mental illness, but they are only billionaires because they stepped on millions of backs.

This is more in general can rich people have struggles, to which i say yes. Hell, this dude above you said he considers anything above $9 million immorally rich.

welp Kaiser-mazoku is gone

Glob posted...

The research that Ive come across in the past suggested that yes, people with higher levels of income are happier, but only up to a certain threshold and its lower than people expect it to be.

Obviously these figures wont necessarily be correct today, but it as something like once you got over about 70k per year it stopped making any difference to happiness.

That was an older study. A newer one (that the team behind the older study was involved in) shows that for most people happiness does continue to increase with income level. What that older study was finding was more that if a person is unhappy then the degree to which money can mitigate that unhappiness levels off at a certain point.

https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/does-money-buy-happiness-heres-what-the-research-says/

They do also say in the study that money is just one of many determinants of a person's happiness. So it's still not trying to say that if you're richer you'll definitely be happier because it doesn't work like that.

UnsteadyOwl posted...

That was an older study. A newer one (that the team behind the older study was involved in) shows that for most people happiness does continue to increase with income level. What that older study was finding was more that if a person is unhappy then the degree to which money can mitigate that unhappiness levels off at a certain point.

https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/does-money-buy-happiness-heres-what-the-research-says/

They do also say in the study that money is just one of many determinants of a person's happiness. So it's still not trying to say that if you're richer you'll definitely be happier because it doesn't work like that.

That makes sense.

Thanks for the info.

Kaiser-Mazoku posted...

I have empathy for others going through the same thing who have to choose between therapy and rent.

What if I can afford both? Am I too rich for your empathy? Or do I have a scaled amount since I'm not rich, but not poor?

Daremo posted...

Well, that's a leap.

Perhaps the one in need of therapy here is you. The kind of mind that thinks that's a reasonable place to take this is definitely in need of help of some kind.

Maybe I do get help. And maybe that's why I understand how serious things are and how it doesn't matter how rich you are.

You guys are just acting like the billionaires, but without the money. Cruel and apathetic. No wonder the world is a fucking shithole when so many people think it's acceptable to not care about others.

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I saw at least one of his posts got removed in this topic so idk, it couldve been

I didnt think anything was really mod worthy but goddamn did he have some absurdly tone deaf posts