Current Events > Here are some ways to avoid supporting Fandom, the company that owns GameFAQs

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But they did make random changes at the drop of a dime already so that already invalidates your entire post

I dont believe so.

The elimination of 261, the banning of suspended topics, and the quarantining of CE these things didnt happen the day Fandom took over.

I know I personally campaigned for all three of those things through constructive feedback overtime. Many others did as well, and Im not referring to the outcast users on Reddit. In general these were feedbacks that a great deal of GameFaqs users were sharing, and had been sharing for many years.

Whether or not that feedback had any significant barring on their decisions still doesnt change the fact that those decisions were not made spontaneously. They were analyzed, discussed internally, and strategized for a significant period of time before they were implemented.

I dont believe so.

The elimination of 261, the banning of suspended topics, and the quarantining of CE these things didnt happen the day Fandom took over.

I know I personally campaigned for all three of those things through constructive feedback overtime. Many others did as well, and Im not referring to the outcast users on Reddit. In general these were feedbacks that a great deal of GameFaqs users were sharing, and had been sharing for many years.

Whether or not that feedback had any significant barring on their decisions still doesnt change the fact that those decisions were not made spontaneously. They were analyzed, discussed internally, and strategized for a significant period of time before they were implemented.

Dude has a meltdown, shouts the worst users, and gets banned lol.

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The decision was obviously made long ago despite community protest. Next excuse

edit: clearly youve never worked for a big company with 100s of employees if you think they are as crippled and unable to act as they appear to be simply because of their size. They dont even communicate which has 0 excuse even if they had 20,000 employees

Maybe at head office but its clear as day the admins and mods didnt know about it until it hit.

Ive actually been a marketing executive for several. Yes, typically the community managers (mid level, operational employees) are not allowed to just change things without approval. Any large changes usually need to be discussed internally, then presented to the actual decision makers. Its a meticulous, bureaucratic process. Fandom is not a startup, where things are much more lax.

Oh yea. Totally. But I agree with that decision. The moderators arent employees. In the eyes of Fandom they are no different than you or me Id imagine

im not talking about community managers, stop changing the subject

As has been oft repeated the issue is with the implementation.

1. Revert to old system, with multiple second opinions, and mandatory mod notes this system placed emphasis on rehabilitation and getting users back to engaging with the platform and generating new content as quickly as possible
2. Id unban every single account. There are banned accounts from 2002. Give everyone a second chance. Send out an email blast informing all registered accounts of the changes, and welcoming them back.
3. Ad a play nice rule a vague rule that basically eliminates meanness from the platform. All conversation must be friendly. Anything antagonistic, or unfriendly in anyway is removed.
4. I would pay the current moderators a salary. I would allocate 250k a year for this, which is the equivalent of one Marketing Executive salary. This would be allocated to 20 different moderators at approximately 1k a month.
5. Id then begin zoom interviews with every single current moderator, to determine which 20 get the position. Obviously being willing to dox oneself, sign a 1099, and willingness to attend weekly synch meetings will play a part in who gets the position.
6. The new SOP or call to action for the moderation team would be to foster positive engagement, without eliminating content. The more people posting the better. So lots of deletion w/ no karma loss, and detailed mod notes to guide users on how to improve their posting habits.
7. Moderators are now community managers, and no longer referred to as moderators their roles change from something similar to that of an authority figure, to something more akin to a mediator. They still uphold the ToS, but its secondary to their main job of ensuring that discussions stay friendly, and everyone gets along.

I know of some users who left the Fandom wikis less because of actual issues, but because Fandom dared to implement a pro-LGBT policy that banned deadnaming.

Revert to old system, with multiple second opinions,

You mean the system where a lead mod and then an admin looked at your dispute? Instead of the current system where dozens of mods vote on what they feel the proper action is upon reading your dispute? Gee, I wonder which system is the one with the multiple second opinions.

It was a whole post of stupid fucking ideas.

"Unban everyone" says the guy from the gutter subreddit, with no hint of irony.

You're the only person on your side.

I am on Fandoms side. I support their decision to modernize the site, and try to appeal to a more casual, younger, mainstream audience.

I honestly do believe that in order to do that, the current vibe and culture of the GameFaqs message boards needs to be disrupted. If you enjoyed GameFaqs as it was, a relic website from a begotten era filled w/ internet culture spearheaded by the same nostalgic demographic that spearheaded the Geocities era of internet

then yea, youre not going to agree with me.

Considering Im posting on CE, which was basically the foundation of that aforementioned demographic of nostalgic internet people, I fully expect to be in the minority in my support of Fandom. But I still enjoy the conversation nonetheless.

You mean the system where a lead mod and then an admin looked at your dispute? Instead of the current system where dozens of mods vote on what they feel the proper action is upon reading your dispute? Gee, I wonder which system is the one with the multiple second opinions.

So.. whats the over/under on how much longer Stero will be with us here?

So.. whats the over/under on how much longer Stero will be with us here?

The one that communicates to the user. Its not the result that matters. Its the journey.

Making sure the moderated user fully understands their violation, and is give advice to course correct so that they can immediately reintegrate into the community and start contributing much needed content/engagement.

It's wild that STERO, the guy who actively enabled reddit trolls to ask fandom to shut down multiple boards and isolate CE, is asking users to not say mean things about gamefaqs.

2. Id unban every single account. There are banned accounts from 2002. Give everyone a second chance. Send out an email blast informing all registered accounts of the changes, and welcoming them back.

I am laughing at the optics of unbanning users who have literally posted about how they want to kill minorities and saying 'welcome back'.

I know you're a joke, but you don't need to keep repeating the punchline.

It's wild that STERO, the guy who actively enabled reddit trolls to ask fandom to shut down multiple boards and isolate CE, is asking users to not say mean things about gamefaqs.

Dude has to get his troll on somehow.

Ah yes, because that worked wonders in the past!

I am laughing at the optics of unbanning users who have literally posted about how they want to kill minorities and saying 'welcome back'.

I know you're a joke, but you don't need to keep repeating the punchline.

Under that system we had a plethora of engagement, content, and active users. The new system killed off alot of traffic, and now here we are.

If I were in charge Id actually compensate the moderators and make them contracted employees

Process for moderation reform:

1. Revert to old system, with multiple second opinions, and mandatory mod notes this system placed emphasis on rehabilitation and getting users back to engaging with the platform and generating new content as quickly as possible
2. Id unban every single account. There are banned accounts from 2002. Give everyone a second chance. Send out an email blast informing all registered accounts of the changes, and welcoming them back.
3. Ad a play nice rule a vague rule that basically eliminates meanness from the platform. All conversation must be friendly. Anything antagonistic, or unfriendly in anyway is removed.
4. I would pay the current moderators a salary. I would allocate 250k a year for this, which is the equivalent of one Marketing Executive salary. This would be allocated to 20 different moderators at approximately 1k a month.
5. Id then begin zoom interviews with every single current moderator, to determine which 20 get the position. Obviously being willing to dox oneself, sign a 1099, and willingness to attend weekly synch meetings will play a part in who gets the position.
6. The new SOP or call to action for the moderation team would be to foster positive engagement, without eliminating content. The more people posting the better. So lots of deletion w/ no karma loss, and detailed mod notes to guide users on how to improve their posting habits.
7. Moderators are now community managers, and no longer referred to as moderators their roles change from something similar to that of an authority figure, to something more akin to a mediator. They still uphold the ToS, but its secondary to their main job of ensuring that discussions stay friendly, and everyone gets along.