Current Events > Scientists expect major disruptions and global warming if governments don't act

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/08/world-scientists-climate-failure-survey-global-temperature

Hundreds of the worlds leading climate scientists expect global temperatures to rise to at least 2.5C (4.5F) this century, blasting past internationally agreed targets and causing catastrophic consequences for humanity and the planet, an exclusive Guardian survey has revealed.
Almost 80% of the respondents, all from the authoritative Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), foresee at least 2.5C of global heating above preindustrial levels, while almost half anticipate at least 3C (5.4F). Only 6% thought the internationally agreed 1.5C (2.7F) limit will be met.

Many of the scientists envisage a semi-dystopian future, with famines, conflicts and mass migration, driven by heatwaves, wildfires, floods and storms of an intensity and frequency far beyond those that have already struck.

Numerous experts said they had been left feeling hopeless, infuriated and scared by the failure of governments to act despite the clear scientific evidence provided.

I think we are headed for major societal disruption within the next five years, said Gretta Pecl, at the University of Tasmania. [Authorities] will be overwhelmed by extreme event after extreme event, food production will be disrupted. I could not feel greater despair over the future.

Yeah, this topic was already made before but I feel it's serious enough it could use another topic with a title that says what's happening.

Governments won't act

This implies there's even a chance for a change in the first place, which there isn't.

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Because mega corporations are the primary problem, and they feed money into the leaders' hands.
Fuck the planet, gotta get paid... More than any person could ever reasonably spend.

I'm pretty sure the whole right wing in America has it baked into their politics that science is stupid. And with all the brazen denial of objective reality going on these days, I expect absolutely nothing to ever change.

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Profits

The problem is things arent bad enough to force a change, and when they get that bad it will be too late.

There are very specific conditions in which something will be done that spark change.

1) the bad event is so negative even the rich and powerful are negatively impacted.

2) the most effective way for the rich to save themselves is to save everyone.

I've had a firm belief for about a decade that by 2050, there will be absolute chaos in most regions of the planet and mass deaths caused by a great migration. Hundreds of millions will be displaced by rising shores and desertification of once fertile lands and lakes.

Governments are controlled by rich people who make money off shit that causes climate change. All they're worried about is living like royalty until they're dead. Democracy is basically patronizing. We have no real say in anything that matters. They take our money and do whatever they want with it.

Yeah this pic got to me the other day. Contrasting the climate between May 2020 and May 2024 showing the latter with much warmer waters that should happen around August which is the time we start to get hurricanes.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/35373960.jpg

The elites think they will be dead before anything happens.

Zikten posted...

The elites think they will be dead before anything happens.

They legit have bunkers in island countries

have you looked at the price of chocolate/cocoa recently? big part of that is climate change related

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7fa6f7ca.png

maybe it's a bit cynical/transactional to think this way but personally I suspect if this happens to coffee that will really get people acting

JuanCarlos1 posted...

They legit have bunkers in island countries

I guess they don't mind living underwater.

kirbymuncher posted...

have you looked at the price of chocolate/cocoa recently? big part of that is climate change related

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7fa6f7ca.png

maybe it's a bit cynical/transactional to think this way but personally I suspect if this happens to coffee that will really get people acting

"Woke College kids have caused coffee prices to skyrocket by constantly buying them instead of houses" - Fox News probably.

The DoD has been warning for years now that climate change is a national security threat. They've been saying dwindling resources and extreme weather events are going to lead to more instability and conflict in the world and hinder our military's ability to respond to it.

ClayGuida posted...

"Woke College kids have caused coffee prices to skyrocket by constantly buying them instead of houses" - Fox News probably.

Who is to blame for that phenomenon? Starbucks or Dunkin' Donuts?

Most of us here will live to see the oceans become too warm and acidic to support life

Cynrascal posted...

Who is to blame for that phenomenon? Starbucks or Dunkin' Donuts?

College students suffering from woke mind virus.

Rexdragon125 posted...

Most of us here will live to see the oceans become too warm and acidic to support life

Republicans: "Just dump a bunch of ice to fix it."

Cynrascal posted...

Republicans: "Just dump a bunch of ice to fix it."

The solution was staring right at us the entire time! I guess we should follow through on nuking hurricanes, too?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5f7781b6.jpg

Rexdragon125 posted...

Most of us here will live to see the oceans become too warm and acidic to support life

If that happens, then Earth might be permanently fucked. I sometimes take comfort that other species could take over we are gone. But if the oceans die, I am not sure if they can ever heal. And it could lead to extinction of all life. Or most of it, on the planet

Zikten posted...

If that happens, then Earth might be permanently fucked. I sometimes take comfort that other species could take over we are gone. But if the oceans die, I am not sure if they can ever heal. And it could lead to extinction of all life. Or most of it, on the planet

It wouldn't be the first time. The Earth goes in cycles.

Accolon posted...

Governments won't act

This.

Nothing is going to change until Florida is literally underwater and even then you're going to have some politicians focusing on the blame game instead of actually trying to do something about climate change.

Monolith1676 posted...

It wouldn't be the first time. The Earth goes in cycles.

Yeah. The planet will survive. The species will be replaced.

Its not just governments faults. Turn off your AC

Humanity goes extinct to please Billionares and own the Liberals
Checkmate atheist

josifrees posted...

Its not just governments faults. Turn off your AC

Is this a serious post

Monolith1676 posted...

It wouldn't be the first time. The Earth goes in cycles.

It's really interesting to watch the alt right apologists shift multiple viewpoints over time starting from "there isn't climate change" to "climate change happens naturally and it's totally not our fault, let's all just die as a species gracefully."

bump

RIP humans you had a good run.

shironinja posted...

RIP humans you had a good run.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6a9015ab.jpg

Maybe our descendants will evolve to be able to survive on the hellish habitat we create, so humanity may survive.

Maybe

Monolith1676 posted...

It wouldn't be the first time. The Earth goes in cycles.

This. The earth has been way hotter and way colder numerous times throughout its history. People act like this is something new but it's just what the earth does.

runewalshPSiv posted...

This. The earth has been way hotter and way colder numerous times throughout its history. People act like this is something new but it's just what the earth does.

It's weird how this point is so rarely addressed by actual scientists.

Probably because it's bullshit.

The destruction of life on earth will be glorious capitalisms crowning achievement.

Welp, expect major disruptions and global warming then.

DrizztLink posted...

It's weird how this point is so rarely addressed by actual scientists.

Probably because it's bullshit.

Well it's not bullshit but people conveniently leave out the time table on those big swings of temperature because it's pretty bad for their argument when you say things like "The Earth will be average 80 degrees Celsius in 100,000 years"

Strider102 posted...

Maybe our descendants will evolve to be able to survive on the hellish habitat we create, so humanity may survive.

Maybe

Is it weird to say I hope not

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The world's biggest polluter, by far, is China. In the same 2030 timeline where major nations are trying to halve their emissions, China has only promised to reduce the rate at which their emissions are increasing to 0. Plenty of governments are on board, and their contributions are effectively a drop in the ocean. So realistically the options are either everyone cuts ties completely with China until they fix their shit, or the world goes to war and forces them to. That's the harsh reality of climate change if things are actually as dire as people say.

Now some Wumao is going to eventually come in and say that "actually it's the US's fault because they buy the most stuff from China", because apparently China isn't actually a sovereign nation that can set their own policy. In reality, China will literally let the rest of the world burn if it means they continue to grow, so they have no incentive to actually improve their standards and become more expensive (and thus less attractive as a manufacturing hub).

DrizztLink posted...

It's weird how this point is so rarely addressed by actual scientists.

Probably because it's bullshit.

The problem is the temperature is rising magnitudes faster than it ever has naturally, and evolution can't keep up.

It's weird how denialists can never address this point, probably because they know they're full of shit

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Human prosperity and environmentalism are completely incompatible. And if you try and affect the former in any meaningful capacity enough to actually reverse climate change would make most of humanitys lives miserable.

Miserable enough to wise up and kill any and all overseeing and enforcing it.

Prismsblade posted...

Human prosperity and environmentalism are completely incompatible. And if you try and affect the former in any meaningful capacity enough to actually reverse climate change would make most of humanitys lives miserable.

Miserable enough to wise up and kill any and all overseeing and enforcing it.

No. The incompatibility is between the excesses of endgame capitalism and doing something real about climate change.

Since the capitalists rule the world, and are too stupid/evil to see the need for change, this oncoming disaster is inevitable.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Well it's not bullshit but people conveniently leave out the time table on those big swings of temperature because it's pretty bad for their argument when you say things like "The Earth will be average 80 degrees Celsius in 100,000 years"

At best that makes it bullshit-adjacent.

At this point we pretty much need a miracle.

By the time the world agrees to really make significant changes, it'll be far too late.

Nothing will happen until us younger generations quit treating it as just another political issue. It is THE issue that WILL affect our lifestyles MAJORLY if we don't prioritize it above all other issues. This and the threat of nuclear war are why we are flirting with midnight on the doomsday clock.

Young people need to quit being pushovers or we really are fucking ourselves over by trusting that the rest of society will take care of us. We've found out the hard way that there are not nearly enough benevolent older people out there to put society's welfare before their own short-term comfort.

LoZguy709 posted...

This and the threat of nuclear war are why we are flirting with midnight on the doomsday clock.

We've been flirting with midnight on the doomsday clock for its entire existence. It's just a fearmongering tool.