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epik_fail1 05/21/24 12:33:26 PM #1:	I wonder what the anti censorship grifters have to say about that https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e98267b0.jpg --- Why an I still on this website? <cite>epik_fail1 posted [p:980491654] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>I wonder what the anti censorship grifters have to say about thathttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e98267b0.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 05/21/24 12:34:48 PM #2:	I said it once I'll say it again Vivian stays best girl --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:980491678] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>I said it once I'll say it again Vivian stays best girl </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HudGard 05/21/24 12:40:57 PM #3:	Nice --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet <cite>HudGard posted [p:980491764] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>Nice </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 05/21/24 12:49:01 PM #5:	And now the shit storm begins --- A worthless existence <cite>tremain07 posted [p:980491899] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>And now the shit storm begins </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
epik_fail1 05/21/24 1:28:13 PM #6:	So that means Mario canonically defeat terfs? --- Why an I still on this website? <cite>epik_fail1 posted [p:980492627] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>So that means Mario canonically defeat terfs? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 05/21/24 1:28:46 PM #7:	I'm sure gamers are going to be calm and reasonable with this --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:980492633] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>I'm sure gamers are going to be calm and reasonable with this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 05/21/24 1:29:29 PM #8:	Good. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:980492647] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>Good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Puelto295 05/21/24 1:29:53 PM #9:	Nice. --- Que yo no quiero mas complicaciones, por eso me libere. <cite>Puelto295 posted [p:980492653] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>Nice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hambo 05/21/24 1:33:21 PM #10:	epik_fail1 posted... So that means Mario canonically defeat terfs? Stompin' turts and terfs alike. --- Hambo's alt. <cite>Hambo posted [p:980492718] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>epik_fail1 posted... </cite><quote>So that means Mario canonically defeat terfs?</quote>Stompin' turts and terfs alike. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smiffwilm 05/21/24 1:46:53 PM #11:	That confirms it: JK Rowling is not a Mario fan. --- My Mario Maker 2 ID is 6RG-5XK-JCG <cite>Smiffwilm posted [p:980492966] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>That confirms it: JK Rowling is not a Mario fan. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 05/21/24 1:49:27 PM #12:	Cemith posted... I said it once I'll say it again Vivian stays best girl Relatedly; Astolfo is also best girl --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:980493003] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>Cemith posted... </cite><quote>I said it once I'll say it again Vivian stays best girl</quote>Relatedly; Astolfo is also best girl </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 05/21/24 1:53:21 PM #13:	I wasn't interested in this, but now I am. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:980493060] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>I wasn't interested in this, but now I am. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 05/21/24 1:53:56 PM #14:	MaxEffingBemis posted... Relatedly; Astolfo is also best girl Astolfo identifies as a dude, though (yes, I get it) --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:980493068] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>MaxEffingBemis posted... </cite><quote>Relatedly; Astolfo is also best girl</quote>Astolfo identifies as a dude, though(yes, I get it) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gna647 05/21/24 1:54:45 PM #15:	Lmaooo <cite>gna647 posted [p:980493075] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>Lmaooo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HairyQueen 05/21/24 1:56:41 PM #16:	Mario games soon to be banned in the UK now probably or something --- "Every last inch of me's covered in hair!" <cite>HairyQueen posted [p:980493098] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>Mario games soon to be banned in the UK now probably or something </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpawnShadow 05/21/24 1:57:45 PM #17:	Welp, guess I know what game isn't going to get released in Florida. <cite>SpawnShadow posted [p:980493114] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>Welp, guess I know what game isn't going to get released in Florida.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hejiru 05/21/24 2:12:09 PM #18:	HairyQueen posted... Mario games soon to be banned in the UK now probably or something Eh, Birdo has existed since the 80s --- The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense. <cite>Hejiru posted [p:980493318] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>HairyQueen posted... </cite><quote>Mario games soon to be banned in the UK now probably or something</quote>Eh, Birdo has existed since the 80s </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 05/21/24 2:14:21 PM #19:	epik_fail1 posted... I wonder what the anti censorship grifters have to say about that https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e98267b0.jpg They change into anti-woke grifters. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:980493347] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>epik_fail1 posted... </cite><quote>I wonder what the anti censorship grifters have to say about thathttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e98267b0.jpg</quote>They change into anti-woke grifters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 05/21/24 2:14:26 PM #20:	Conservatives are gonna lose their fucking minds over this lmao --- Hurry up, Goldenrod! You're gonna be a permanent resident! <cite>rexcrk posted [p:980493349] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>Conservatives are gonna lose their fucking minds over this lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 05/21/24 2:17:21 PM #21:	Xenogears15 posted... Astolfo identifies as a dude, though (yes, I get it) This reminds me that I need to finish Apocrypha soon --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:980493384] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>Astolfo identifies as a dude, though(yes, I get it)</quote>This reminds me that I need to finish Apocrypha soon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
epik_fail1 05/21/24 2:26:37 PM #22:	Go woke, profit flow? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b4ee50c0.jpg --- Why an I still on this website? <cite>epik_fail1 posted [p:980493540] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>Go woke, profit flow?https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b4ee50c0.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 05/21/24 2:32:43 PM #23:	How bad is the anti-woke meltdown over this correction? --- Miss what the Current Events board used to be? Then come here to discuss it with us: https://discord.gg/ThGKk5UaK6 <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:980493644] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>How bad is the anti-woke meltdown over this correction? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 05/21/24 2:33:33 PM #24:	epik_fail1 posted... Go woke, profit flow? Honestly this is a win for the people who want things translated in their original tone and meaning. People who oppose "woke translators" should be very happy about this. --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:980493662] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>epik_fail1 posted... </cite><quote>Go woke, profit flow?</quote>Honestly this is a win for the people who want things translated in their original tone and meaning. People who oppose "woke translators" should be very happy about this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid_Seb 05/21/24 2:38:15 PM #25:	I thought this was old news <cite>Solid_Seb posted [p:980493725] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>I thought this was old news</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McMarbles 05/21/24 2:40:04 PM #26:	Foppe posted... They change into anti-woke grifters. Always were. --- Currently playing: Rune Factory 5 (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. <cite>McMarbles posted [p:980493749] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>They change into anti-woke grifters.</quote>Always were. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 05/21/24 2:41:11 PM #27:	Solid_Seb posted... I thought this was old news It wasn't confirmed but it has been a hot topic on if the remake would make her trans or hide it like the original game did. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:980493773] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>Solid_Seb posted... </cite><quote>I thought this was old news</quote>It wasn't confirmed but it has been a hot topic on if the remake would make her trans or hide it like the original game did. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 05/21/24 2:43:03 PM #29:	Vivian was originally just written/translated straight up as a girl without any hints toward being trans, right? Is that where the censorship was? It's been a while since I played TTYD. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:980493810] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote> Vivian was originally just written/translated straight up as a girl without any hints toward being trans, right? Is that where the censorship was? It's been a while since I played TTYD. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 05/21/24 2:44:00 PM #30:	pokedude900 posted... I just want the facts here. Sure you do. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:980493823] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>pokedude900 posted... </cite><quote>I just want the facts here.</quote>Sure you do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 05/21/24 2:44:01 PM #31:	I thought in the Japanese version Vivian was forced to dress and act like a girl due to his feminine appearance. Not really the same thing as being trans. --- THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK Do not write in this space. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:980493824] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>I thought in the Japanese version Vivian was forced to dress and act like a girl due to his feminine appearance.Not really the same thing as being trans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pokedude900 05/21/24 2:50:03 PM #33:	UnholyMudcrab posted... Sure you do. You know, it gets really fucking exhausting discussing localization changes and immediately being accused of being a bigot, a perv, a pedo, or whatever when I say I don't like it. I just want accurate localization. It's not my fault the subject matter is often sensitive in nature. Please. Just show me the original Japanese version of the line in the OP. If it says she's trans, then I happily accept the translation. --- https://i.imgur.com/lfI7zGE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tgLNUuX.jpg Come to the (un)official GameFAQs Touhou board. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1110- <cite>pokedude900 posted [p:980493919] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite><quote>Sure you do.</quote>You know, it gets really fucking exhausting discussing localization changes and immediately being accused of being a bigot, a perv, a pedo, or whatever when I say I don't like it.I just want accurate localization. It's not my fault the subject matter is often sensitive in nature. Please. Just show me the original Japanese version of the line in the OP. If it says she's trans, then I happily accept the translation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 05/21/24 2:51:09 PM #34:	pokedude900 posted... Okay, sincere question here. Was she ACTUALLY trans in the original Japanese Gamecube version's script? I've done as much research as I reasonably can, and I keep coming back to her being an otokonoko. Which can mean crossdresser or femboy. That is, someone who dresses or acts feminine, but identifies as male. Distinctly different from a trans woman. If she was trans, then great. I'm happy that part of the translation is accurate and Nintendo isn't afraid to have a trans character in a major release. But if she wasn't, then I don't approve of them changing the script. There are tons of cases of censorship and pointless line changes in this remake already (why do they hate the word airhead so much?), so pardon me if I sound skeptical. Sure trans representation is cool, but it should be there from the start, not shoehorned in during localization (if that is in fact the case). I just want the facts here. Whatever the original script was, I'm cool with it. And I do not like how the original English version scrubbed all references to it. This post was definitely made in good faith. Definitely. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:980493945] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>pokedude900 posted... </cite><quote>Okay, sincere question here. Was she ACTUALLY trans in the original Japanese Gamecube version's script? I've done as much research as I reasonably can, and I keep coming back to her being an otokonoko. Which can mean crossdresser or femboy. That is, someone who dresses or acts feminine, but identifies as male. Distinctly different from a trans woman.If she was trans, then great. I'm happy that part of the translation is accurate and Nintendo isn't afraid to have a trans character in a major release. But if she wasn't, then I don't approve of them changing the script. There are tons of cases of censorship and pointless line changes in this remake already (why do they hate the word airhead so much?), so pardon me if I sound skeptical. Sure trans representation is cool, but it should be there from the start, not shoehorned in during localization (if that is in fact the case).I just want the facts here. Whatever the original script was, I'm cool with it. And I do not like how the original English version scrubbed all references to it.</quote>This post was definitely made in good faith. Definitely.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimberly 05/21/24 2:51:43 PM #35:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] --- I'll be your guide when you wanna get lost I'll be the sword at your side at all cost <cite>Kimberly posted [p:980493955] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
el_cheato 05/21/24 2:52:10 PM #36:	pokedude900 posted... You know, it gets really fucking exhausting discussing localization changes and immediately being accused of being a bigot, a perv, a pedo, or whatever when I say I don't like it. I just want accurate localization. It's not my fault the subject matter is often sensitive in nature. Please. Just show me the original Japanese version of the line in the OP. If it says she's trans, then I happily accept the translation. She was absolutely 100% unambiguously transgender in the original japanese version and the remake contains a faithful translation that does not change that about her. --- Source: it is known among the wise <cite>el_cheato posted [p:980493963] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>pokedude900 posted... </cite><quote>You know, it gets really fucking exhausting discussing localization changes and immediately being accused of being a bigot, a perv, a pedo, or whatever when I say I don't like it.I just want accurate localization. It's not my fault the subject matter is often sensitive in nature. Please. Just show me the original Japanese version of the line in the OP. If it says she's trans, then I happily accept the translation.</quote>She was absolutely 100% unambiguously transgender in the original japanese version and the remake contains a faithful translation that does not change that about her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pokedude900 05/21/24 2:52:38 PM #37:	I...literally just want a screenshot of the original line. --- https://i.imgur.com/lfI7zGE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tgLNUuX.jpg Come to the (un)official GameFAQs Touhou board. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1110- <cite>pokedude900 posted [p:980493966] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>I...literally just want a screenshot of the original line. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 05/21/24 2:55:12 PM #38:	pokedude900 posted... You know, it gets really fucking exhausting discussing localization changes and immediately being accused of being a bigot, a perv, a pedo, or whatever when I say I don't like it. I just want accurate localization. It's not my fault the subject matter is often sensitive in nature. Please. Just show me the original Japanese version of the line in the OP. If it says she's trans, then I happily accept the translation. Maybe you should simply just not care about localization. Focus your attention to something actually worthwhile idk --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:980494008] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>pokedude900 posted... </cite><quote>You know, it gets really fucking exhausting discussing localization changes and immediately being accused of being a bigot, a perv, a pedo, or whatever when I say I don't like it.I just want accurate localization. It's not my fault the subject matter is often sensitive in nature. Please. Just show me the original Japanese version of the line in the OP. If it says she's trans, then I happily accept the translation.</quote>Maybe you should simply just not care about localization. Focus your attention to something actually worthwhile idk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
el_cheato 05/21/24 2:56:45 PM #39:	pokedude900 posted... I...literally just want a screenshot of the original line. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/96e9ede6.jpg --- Source: it is known among the wise <cite>el_cheato posted [p:980494029] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>pokedude900 posted... </cite><quote>I...literally just want a screenshot of the original line.</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/96e9ede6.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pokedude900 05/21/24 2:59:40 PM #40:	MaxEffingBemis posted... Maybe you should simply just not care about localization. Focus your attention to something actually worthwhile idk ...if you don't care about the localization, why are you even in this topic? el_cheato posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/96e9ede6.jpg That is not a screenshot of the line in the OP. It is a screenshot of a line where Beldam calls Vivian a man. Which does nothing to confirm whether she was transgender or a crossdresser/femboy. --- https://i.imgur.com/lfI7zGE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tgLNUuX.jpg Come to the (un)official GameFAQs Touhou board. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1110- <cite>pokedude900 posted [p:980494072] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>MaxEffingBemis posted...</cite><quote>Maybe you should simply just not care about localization. Focus your attention to something actually worthwhile idk </quote>...if you don't care about the localization, why are you even in this topic?el_cheato posted...</cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/96e9ede6.jpg</quote>That is not a screenshot of the line in the OP. It is a screenshot of a line where Beldam calls Vivian a man. Which does nothing to confirm whether she was transgender or a crossdresser/femboy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 05/21/24 3:06:14 PM #41:	pokedude900 posted... That is not a screenshot of the line in the OP. It is a screenshot of a line where Beldam calls Vivian a man. Which does nothing to confirm whether she was transgender or a crossdresser/femboy. If you consider the fact that Vivian is trans and identifies as/is a woman, then being referred to as a man would be a greivous insult. Otherwise being referred to as a man (with red emphasis apparently) doesn't really... Carry much of an insult if Vivian is male. --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. <cite>wackyteen posted [p:980494179] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>pokedude900 posted... </cite><quote>That is not a screenshot of the line in the OP. It is a screenshot of a line where Beldam calls Vivian a man. Which does nothing to confirm whether she was transgender or a crossdresser/femboy.</quote>If you consider the fact that Vivian is trans and identifies as/is a woman, then being referred to as a man would be a greivous insult.Otherwise being referred to as a man (with red emphasis apparently) doesn't really... Carry much of an insult if Vivian is male. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 05/21/24 3:08:45 PM #42:	pokedude900 posted... ...if you don't care about the localization, why are you even in this topic? That is not a screenshot of the line in the OP. It is a screenshot of a line where Beldam calls Vivian a man. Which does nothing to confirm whether she was transgender or a crossdresser/femboy. Im in this topic so I can tell you that caring about localizations is unhinged behavior --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:980494225] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>pokedude900 posted... </cite><quote>...if you don't care about the localization, why are you even in this topic?That is not a screenshot of the line in the OP. It is a screenshot of a line where Beldam calls Vivian a man. Which does nothing to confirm whether she was transgender or a crossdresser/femboy.</quote>Im in this topic so I can tell you that caring about localizations is unhinged behavior </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Storm101 05/21/24 3:09:05 PM #43:	Pretty sure Goombella says it more explicitly, but I don't know where to find that screenshot. <cite>Storm101 posted [p:980494231] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure Goombella says it more explicitly, but I don't know where to find that screenshot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimberly 05/21/24 3:10:34 PM #44:	pokedude900 posted... I...literally just want a screenshot of the original line. pokedude900 posted... That is not a screenshot of the line in the OP. It is a screenshot of a line where Beldam calls Vivian a man. Which does nothing to confirm whether she was transgender or a crossdresser/femboy. The Cutting Room Floor is cited often as proof positive that Vivian was presented solely as a feminine man in the game because Bedlam refers to her as such in the original text. They have a snippet of the original text you're eager to read. But there's more than just a single line to how a character is presented throughout the game, which is why I suspect no one's interested in furnishing every exhaustive example of the times where the game treats Vivian's gender identity as a running joke. (Something TCRF's blurb about Vivian acknowledges when talking about how trans people were depicted in Japanese media at the time.) Personally, I'm of the opinion that if you can research enough to see why many people (incorrectly) label her as just an otokonoko then you're more than capable of finding all the other commonly cited cases of Vivian referring to themselves with feminine pronouns, or using feminine words to describe herself and her sisters, or how Goombella's tattle text changes throughout the game for Vivian, and so on within the original Japanese version of the game. --- I'll be your guide when you wanna get lost I'll be the sword at your side at all cost <cite>Kimberly posted [p:980494253] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>pokedude900 posted... </cite><quote>I...literally just want a screenshot of the original line.</quote>pokedude900 posted... </cite><quote>That is not a screenshot of the line in the OP. It is a screenshot of a line where Beldam calls Vivian a man. Which does nothing to confirm whether she was transgender or a crossdresser/femboy.</quote>The Cutting Room Floor is cited often as proof positive that Vivian was presented solely as a feminine man in the game because Bedlam refers to her as such in the original text. They have a snippet of the original text you're eager to read. But there's more than just a single line to how a character is presented throughout the game, which is why I suspect no one's interested in furnishing every exhaustive example of the times where the game treats Vivian's gender identity as a running joke. (Something TCRF's blurb about Vivian acknowledges when talking about how trans people were depicted in Japanese media at the time.)Personally, I'm of the opinion that if you can research enough to see why many people (incorrectly) label her as just an otokonoko then you're more than capable of finding all the other commonly cited cases of Vivian referring to themselves with feminine pronouns, or using feminine words to describe herself and her sisters, or how Goombella's tattle text changes throughout the game for Vivian, and so on within the original Japanese version of the game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/21/24 3:10:42 PM #45:	Huh. I recently played that game (original version) with a patch that was meant to undo the censorship around that, among other things. I don't remember that scene tho; I do recall it referencing her being trans in her character bio tho. --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:980494256] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>Huh. I recently played that game (original version) with a patch that was meant to undo the censorship around that, among other things. I don't remember that scene tho; I do recall it referencing her being trans in her character bio tho. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BDSMKane 05/21/24 3:12:26 PM #46:	epik_fail1 posted... I wonder what the anti censorship grifters have to say about that https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e98267b0.jpg Anti censorship here! Why would I have a problem with this? --- No matter our origin, we are all one family, we all share one planet, and we all need to feel loved and accepted. We are more alike than different. <cite>BDSMKane posted [p:980494284] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>epik_fail1 posted... </cite><quote>I wonder what the anti censorship grifters have to say about thathttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e98267b0.jpg</quote>Anti censorship here!Why would I have a problem with this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 05/21/24 3:15:02 PM #48:	BDSMKane posted... Anti censorship here! Why would I have a problem with this? I am also anti-censorship. Problem is dishonest actors have taken over the movement. Now it's less about censorship and more about "woke bad." With them ignoring censorship of things they don't like. --- "Intelligence has no place in Politics" Londo, (Babylon Five) Best new show of 2023, One Piece live action. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:980494325] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>BDSMKane posted... </cite><quote>Anti censorship here!Why would I have a problem with this?</quote>I am also anti-censorship. Problem is dishonest actors have taken over the movement. Now it's less about censorship and more about "woke bad." With them ignoring censorship of things they don't like. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Storm101 05/21/24 3:24:18 PM #50:	This is good enough: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/920182-paper-mario-the-thousand-year-door/80576421 <cite>Storm101 posted [p:980494456] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>This is good enough: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/920182-paper-mario-the-thousand-year-door/80576421</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pokedude900 05/21/24 3:35:28 PM #51:	That is still not a screenshot. But what I do see a direct translation of the Goombella tattle. It's Vivian, a member of the Shadow Trio and the youngest sister ...no, wait, brother. Also the wiki backing up what I said earlier. routinely uses the feminine first person pronoun atai, though this pronoun is also used by some effeminate male characters in Japanese media. In Super Paper Mario, Vivian's Catch Card describes her using the term otoko no ko, a Japanese-language term that can interchangeably refer to a feminine-presenting man or a crossdressing man, rather than "transgender" (which is identical in Japanese to the English-language word) Nearly 20 posts since I asked for the original Japanese version of the line from the OP, btw. --- https://i.imgur.com/lfI7zGE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tgLNUuX.jpg Come to the (un)official GameFAQs Touhou board. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1110- <cite>pokedude900 posted [p:980494607] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>That is still not a screenshot. But what I do see a direct translation of the Goombella tattle.<quote>It's Vivian,a member of the Shadow Trio and the youngest sister...no, wait, brother.</quote>Also the wiki backing up what I said earlier.<quote>routinely uses the feminine first person pronoun atai, though this pronoun is also used by some effeminate male characters in Japanese media. In Super Paper Mario, Vivian's Catch Card describes her using the term otoko no ko, a Japanese-language term that can interchangeably refer to a feminine-presenting man or a crossdressing man, rather than "transgender" (which is identical in Japanese to the English-language word)</quote>Nearly 20 posts since I asked for the original Japanese version of the line from the OP, btw. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid_Seb 05/21/24 3:36:53 PM #52:	Find it yourself dude <cite>Solid_Seb posted [p:980494625] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>Find it yourself dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Storm101 05/21/24 3:38:06 PM #53:	That's not a screenshot either though, so why are you using it to back up your point? You're just ignoring half of what we're saying anyway, so this conversation is pointless. <cite>Storm101 posted [p:980494638] in Vivian con... [t:80773540]...</cite> <quote>That's not a screenshot either though, so why are you using it to back up your point? You're just ignoring half of what we're saying anyway, so this conversation is pointless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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