Current Events > Wow ...Uvalde familes settle for 2 million...

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17 different families harmed after your police waited 77 minutes to go inside and thats what they settled for?

Ughhh I guess there's more stipulations and maybe that just one of the lawsuits? But still seems like a slap in the face

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/05/22/uvalde-shooting-texas-dps-lawsuit/

Hmmm alright bump?

Considering it's Texas, that's 2 million more than I thought they'd ever get.

It's still not nearly worth what losing a child is, but I guess 50k is better than nothing.

FinalBraveNUT posted...

still seems like a slap in the face

most if not all of CE would be in agreement on this.

coyot posted...

their lawyer noted that law enforcement outnumbered the gunman 376 to 1.

Yea, but he had a legal gun, so there's nothing they could do.

ClayGuida posted...

Considering it's Texas, that's 2 million more than I thought they'd ever get.

It's still not nearly worth what losing a child is, but I guess 50k is better than nothing.

I think its 2 million total for all the 17 families ..not 2 million a family... ....may be wrong tho but as far as I can tell by that article

Yeah, there had better be some serious stipulations in this settlement, such as state-mandated MAJOR changes to law enforcement, admissions of guilt, firings, forcing the officers involved to contribute to the settlement money, and FOIA'ing damn near every bit of information about the fiasco, including the most embarrassing parts.

And a big one: In ADDITION to that 2 million, the state (with STATE tax dollars, not federal) will pay the psych costs for victims and their families for the rest of their lives, and the medical costs for injured survivors for the rest of their lives.

Should come out of the police budget/pensions, but of course that will never happen. Just tax payers footing the bill for cowardice.

Southernfatman posted...

Should come out of the police budget/pensions, but of course that will never happen. Just tax payers footing the bill for cowardice.

Exactly this

It's a big fucking slap in the face. "Here's the the cost of raising the kid, now go make another one."

"How much are our kids lives to you?"

"About...$2,000,000 divided between all of you."

"That's fair, settled."

I saw this in the evening news. They apparently agreed to the settlement because 2 mil was the max the city's insurance would cover and they didn't want to bankrupt their own city. *shrugs*

also note that whole place still voted for Abbott again

Something about this stinks, given it's Texas and how thuggish the police in this state are and how our justice system is completely in the government's pocket I think they were strong armed at most and outright threatened at best to take this "offer" that most of them won't even get. After all, this is the same state that let that woman who managed to sneak by the police and save her kid get harassed by that police department so much she was basically run out of the county and probably by now out of the state, a story that quickly disappeared as major news outlets didn't cover it and local news definitely isn't gonna say shit.

Texas is so close to being Florida with how captured our government is by Republicans and how brazenly corrupt they are in their control and voter suppression, last major election in my county had a trump supporter outside the library waving his gun around and the local cops did not remove him nor did he get any coverage.

Abolish Uvalde

Maybe acceptance/forgiveness lowered the number

It can be easy to forget that some things can be more important than money and everyone's healing process is diff

I would have said fuck your money give me the video i would want the truth

good use of taxpayer money

the cops will probably say they need more over the next few years

JasonSehorn posted...

I would have said fuck your money give me the video i would want the truth

This. I wonder if that video will ever leak

The most unbelievable part of the entire Die Hard series is that Al Powell actually gives a shit about shooting a kid.

Xatrion posted...

I saw this in the evening news. They apparently agreed to the settlement because 2 mil was the max the city's insurance would cover and they didn't want to bankrupt their own city. *shrugs*

Shouldn't it be like 2mil max per plaintiff?

Xatrion posted...

I saw this in the evening news. They apparently agreed to the settlement because 2 mil was the max the city's insurance would cover and they didn't want to bankrupt their own city. *shrugs*

Just take it out of the 376 officers pensions.

Should be more.

Texass can afford it.

Xatrion posted...

I saw this in the evening news. They apparently agreed to the settlement because 2 mil was the max the city's insurance would cover and they didn't want to bankrupt their own city. *shrugs*

This is like staying late off the clock to finish an assignment.

The city can afford it. They could afford to send their cowardly officers to non stop crisis response classes to prevent this from happening, yet can't pay restitution for those cowardly officers wasting tax payer dollars as children are massacred a couple feet away.

ClayGuida posted...

Considering it's Texas, that's 2 million more than I thought they'd ever get.

It's still not nearly worth what losing a child is, but I guess 50k is better than nothing.

Yeah I was under the assumption you couldn't sue a government agency. I know I was told we couldn't sue the school when I was growing up you had to sue a individual or individuals

coyot posted...

their lawyer noted that law enforcement outnumbered the gunman 376 to 1.

Do cops not have flash bang grenades? Gonna suck for the kids too but they woulda lived

thronedfire2 posted...

good use of taxpayer money

the cops will probably say they need more over the next few years

"See how insufficient our training was? There has to be more money and more militarization of our equipment. This just shows how not ready we were to go in there."

<proceeds to hunt down and terrorize unarmed suspects while another mass shooting happens>

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Now imagine had Beto been gov they would have seen the video and police would have been held accountable

Sufferedphoenix posted...

Do cops not have flash bang grenades? Gonna suck for the kids too but they woulda lived

They do. Cops're known for dropping flash-bangs on toddlers in their cribs.

They could have tried it.

Sufferedphoenix posted...

Yeah I was under the assumption you couldn't sue a government agency. I know I was told we couldn't sue the school when I was growing up you had to sue a individual or individuals

Do cops not have flash bang grenades? Gonna suck for the kids too but they woulda lived

flash grenades are still explosive, so they actually could have killed a child. Still been better than the whole class getting murdered while the command at scene sat on his ass and let it happen though.

I want all the higher ups involved in this who made the call not to go in face criminal charges. But sadly that isnt going to happen

The whistleblowers Ken Paxton fired for reporting him to the DOJ for accepting bribes got $3 million. This is an insultingly low number.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/24/us/uvalde-gun-instagram-activision-lawsuit.html

Do cops not have flash bang grenades? Gonna suck for the kids too but they woulda lived

Flashbangs can cause building fires. (Sadly this doesn't prevent SWAT from using them in no-knock raids, anyway)

CADE_FOSTER posted...

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/24/us/uvalde-gun-instagram-activision-lawsuit.html

(1) Paywall. Got a Wayback link, or a subscription-shared link?

(2) I got to read the first couple paragraphs before I hit the paywall. With only that context...

Video games don't cause violence and mass shooting. They just don't. Jack Thompson no longer has a career because they don't. BUT...

There's something to be said for the "accuracy" of shooters like CoD that are basically gun porn. They're, in some ways, like glorified firearms catalogues meant to hype the guns more than the game play. Even if they're not using real names anymore, tell me how hard it really is to figure it out?

DnDer posted...

(1) Paywall. Got a Wayback link, or a subscription-shared link?

(2) I got to read the first couple paragraphs before I hit the paywall. With only that context...

Video games don't cause violence and mass shooting. They just don't. Jack Thompson no longer has a career because they don't. BUT...

There's something to be said for the "accuracy" of shooters like CoD that are basically gun porn. They're, in some ways, like glorified firearms catalogues meant to hype the guns more than the game play. Even if they're not using real names anymore, tell me how hard it really is to figure it out?

It's irrelevant. A person who is a mass shooter and also played video games was already insane in the first place. The "realism" doesn't matter.

Revelation34 posted...

It's irrelevant. A person who is a mass shooter and also played video games was already insane in the first place. The "realism" doesn't matter.

Plus in terms of context most video games are more or less not reenacting school shootings as their plots but rather like war scenarios and stuff of that nature which are a vastly different thing.