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Cheater87
05/23/24 3:23:18 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-passes-bill-make-abortion-pills-controlled-dangerous-substan-rcna153052

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Kimberly
05/23/24 3:28:05 PM
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Every minute Congress fails to act in protecting the unfettered access to all aspects of pregnancy health care is a failure.

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Samurai_Man
05/23/24 3:28:57 PM
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*Adds LA to list of places to never live*

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Kai_Laguna
05/23/24 3:31:18 PM
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Kimberly posted...
Every minute Congress fails to act in protecting the unfettered access to all aspects of pregnancy health care is a failure.
At least half of congress supports this shit.
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CRON
05/23/24 3:31:23 PM
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This is beyond the pale and it's frustrating how Americans are literally not going to do shit about things getting worse

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Kimberly
05/23/24 3:45:19 PM
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Kai_Laguna posted...
At least half of congress supports this shit.

And a not insignificant portion of those who say they support it really only support it in "certain conditions".

It's a shared failure for a reason.

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Southernfatman
05/23/24 3:48:00 PM
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CRON posted...
This is beyond the pale and it's frustrating how Americans are literally not going to do shit about things getting worse


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Frosted_Midna
05/23/24 6:28:41 PM
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Waiting for a day of revolution to happen.

It won't happen.

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CE_gonna_CE
05/23/24 6:29:37 PM
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Garbage fucking state

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CE_gonna_CE
05/23/24 6:30:48 PM
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Louisiana looking to out-Alabama-and-Florida Alabama and Florida. And succeeding.

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InTheEyesOfFire
05/23/24 6:32:47 PM
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Well fuck you Louisiana.

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hockeybabe89
05/23/24 6:34:16 PM
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Useless POS state

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Alteres
05/23/24 6:34:56 PM
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I hate to be that guy, but the article says abortion pills without a valid prescription

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CADE_FOSTER
05/23/24 6:35:08 PM
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red states are shit holes and the people keep electing fascists
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ooger
05/23/24 6:37:13 PM
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Alteres posted...
I hate to be that guy, but the article says abortion pills without a valid prescription
Hate to be that guy, but that is still stupid.

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Pitbuller_26
05/23/24 6:47:20 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
red states are shit holes and the people keep electing fascists

Democratic leaning voters in Louisiana saw how Republicans govern red states and instead of trying to not go down path like Kentucky did with reelecting Beshear, they chose to stay home and now got a red trifecta doing everything possible to to kill any hope in that state.

What Republicans want to do when they have control is not a damn secret, no subliminal or hidden messages, they say it quite openly and brazenly nowadays.

Give it a year, Louisiana will be the worst state since that state legislature seems eager to take the spot from Mississippi or West Virginia.
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ClayGuida
05/23/24 6:54:19 PM
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Is this another attempt to destroy the FDA?

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fire_bolt
05/23/24 6:54:23 PM
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... I fail to see the problem? As far as I can tell the bill basically exists to make sure only people who are supposed to have abortion inducing medications will have them. Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% pro-choice give that shit out the way they do condoms as far as I'm concerned, but the origin of the bill was because a dude spiked his wife's drink with abortion inducing medication when she didn't want to terminate a pregnancy. Which is a fucking horrifying thought on many, many levels. If a pregnant person wants this kind of medication then give it to her, full stop, but for damn sure there's no reason for not-pregnant people to have it.

And yes, I realize the potential to abuse this is valid. That's true of everything. My point is more that its super easy to dogpile red states for doing dumb shit but this seems pretty valid actually.

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DrizztLink
05/23/24 6:57:31 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
... I fail to see the problem? As far as I can tell the bill basically exists to make sure only people who are supposed to have abortion inducing medications will have them. Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% pro-choice give that shit out the way they do condoms as far as I'm concerned, but the origin of the bill was because a dude spiked his wife's drink with abortion inducing medication when she didn't want to terminate a pregnancy. Which is a fucking horrifying thought on many, many levels. If a pregnant person wants this kind of medication then give it to her, full stop, but for damn sure there's no reason for not-pregnant people to have it.

And yes, I realize the potential to abuse this is valid. That's true of everything. My point is more that its super easy to dogpile red states for doing dumb shit but this seems pretty valid actually.

Medical professionals have spoken out against the measure, saying the medications have critical uses outside of abortion care, including aiding in labor and delivery, treating miscarriage and preventing gastrointestinal ulcers.

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fire_bolt
05/23/24 7:02:16 PM
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Ok but all of those are still valid reasons to have a prescription. As far as I can tell this isn't an attempt to reduce medically needed access to the medication. It literally just criminalizes possession without a prescription. I guess an argument can be made for government over reach, sure, but compared to some of the mask off villain shit red states be getting up to this seems pretty passably reasonable?

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ClayGuida
05/23/24 7:02:42 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
but the origin of the bill was because a dude spiked his wife's drink with abortion inducing medication when she didn't want to terminate a pregnancy.
The guy that got 100 days while women and doctors get 100 years?

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Cemith
05/23/24 7:05:40 PM
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Looks like LA is the worst place to give birth in the country, or trying to be.

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DrizztLink
05/23/24 7:26:14 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
Ok but all of those are still valid reasons to have a prescription.
You're assuming they intend to enforce this like a legitimate law and not the cartoon villain horseshit they've been doing this entire time.

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fire_bolt
05/23/24 7:31:03 PM
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ClayGuida posted...

The guy that got 100 days while women and doctors get 100 years?


Corruption of the system does not mean the system is broken, it means the people applying it are.

DrizztLink posted...

You're assuming they intend to enforce this like a legitimate law and not the cartoon villain horseshit they've been doing this entire time.


You're not wrong, man. Trust me, I know that. Here's the thing: If a bad person does a good thing we need to be glad they did a good thing and run with it. If they then try to use that good thing to do more bad things THAT is when we need to raise hell and stop them. By all means, let them do good things.

I'm not convinced this is a good thing, for the record. I just fail to see how its a bad thing on the face of it so far. I am positive, given the chance, they'll use it to hurt women. That doesn't negate the fact that if applied properly it helps protect women.

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DrizztLink
05/23/24 7:33:10 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
That doesn't negate the fact that if applied properly it helps protect women.
That's a big "if."

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EPR-radar
05/23/24 7:35:42 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
Corruption of the system does not mean the system is broken, it means the people applying it are.

You're not wrong, man. Trust me, I know that. Here's the thing: If a bad person does a good thing we need to be glad they did a good thing and run with it. If they then try to use that good thing to do more bad things THAT is when we need to raise hell and stop them. By all means, let them do good things.

I'm not convinced this is a good thing, for the record. I just fail to see how its a bad thing on the face of it so far. I am positive, given the chance, they'll use it to hurt women. That doesn't negate the fact that if applied properly it helps protect women.
IMO the burden of proof should be the other way around. I.e., everything out of a GOP legislature is axiomatically evil until proven otherwise, and there is no such proof here, only wishful thinking.

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fire_bolt
05/23/24 7:38:07 PM
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EPR-radar posted...

IMO the burden of proof should be the other way around. I.e., everything out of a GOP legislature is axiomatically evil until proven otherwise, and there is no such proof here, only wishful thinking.


._. yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Can't argue against that at all

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OmegaM
05/23/24 8:40:12 PM
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At least it's not regular birth control pills and condoms being banned. That's what I thought this was going to be about.
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Cemith
05/23/24 8:40:40 PM
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OmegaM posted...
At least it's not regular birth control pills and condoms being banned. That's what I thought this was going to be about.

You're about a year too early.

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Sayoria
05/23/24 8:46:42 PM
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Does this go against Griswold vs Connecticut?

..... But of course, they want this challenged so the Supreme Court could steamroll all over this decision.

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CADE_FOSTER
05/24/24 5:48:33 AM
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They want all birth control banned and scotus will do it eventually
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DnDer
05/24/24 7:02:30 AM
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Alteres posted...
I hate to be that guy, but the article says abortion pills without a valid prescription

And what's a "valid prescription" when some states have birth control and morning after pills labeled OTC?

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ooger
05/24/24 8:01:06 AM
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They should be kept as OTC.

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Alteres
05/24/24 8:23:12 AM
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Do you guys seriously think I was arguing for it?

I was simply saying what was happening.

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ooger
05/24/24 8:24:22 AM
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Alteres posted...
Do you guys seriously think I was arguing for it?

I was simply saying what was happening.
I hate to be that guy, but downplaying what is happening is not a good thing to do.

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Tyranthraxus
05/28/24 7:44:56 PM
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Kimberly posted...
Every minute Congress fails to act in protecting the unfettered access to all aspects of pregnancy health care is a failure.

Congress is split. The only act they're doing is a circus act.

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Cheater87
05/29/24 8:51:50 PM
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Signed into law.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-law-abortion-pills-controlled-dangerous-substances-rcna153937

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DnDer
05/29/24 9:23:19 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
Signed into law.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-law-abortion-pills-controlled-dangerous-substances-rcna153937

How many of those republicans bought shares in wire coathanger stocks before they passed this bill?

They sure as hell are working hard to profit off the suffering and deah of women already, so I wouldn't be surprised if they've covered all their bases.

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Cemith
05/30/24 12:04:07 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
Signed into law.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-law-abortion-pills-controlled-dangerous-substances-rcna153937
Louisiana's women population will be drastically reduced over the next decade

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darkace77450
05/30/24 12:48:14 PM
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Louisiana has the 7th highest teen birthrate in the country, the 5th highest maternal mortality rate, the 6th highest infant mortality rate, and the 2nd highest poverty rate. Do you think this new law is going to solve or exacerbate these issues in Louisiana?
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CE_gonna_CE
05/30/24 4:30:26 PM
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Garbage fucking state

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tripleh213
05/31/24 10:32:10 PM
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CE_gonna_CE posted...
Garbage fucking state


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