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MangaBroski
05/24/24 1:53:31 PM
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Hes mused the idea in a joking manner and we saw what happened January 6th, 2021.

I never read the document, but summaries made it seem that Project 2024 has the goal of eliminating and removing all opposition to Trump and the hard rights goals and views. If they were to occur, could the USA successfully recover from such an event peacefully?
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Mad_Cow46
05/24/24 1:54:00 PM
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Probably

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electricbugs2
05/24/24 1:54:38 PM
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Yup. Hes going to win.

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SauI_Goodman
05/24/24 1:55:24 PM
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Guys, we don't need to vote either one of these jackasses in. There are other parties available.

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WingsOfGood
05/24/24 2:00:06 PM
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If the supreme court takes his side he already has.
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HighSeraph
05/24/24 2:01:06 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Guys, we don't need to vote either one of these jackasses in. There are other parties available.
Might as well vote for Santa Claus it'll do just as good as voting third party

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McMarbles
05/24/24 2:01:43 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Guys, we don't need to vote either one of these jackasses in. There are other parties available.
Sure, well get right on that.

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bloodyarts
05/24/24 2:03:03 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Guys, we don't need to vote either one of these jackasses in. There are other parties available.
https://youtu.be/WS2Bsq5PDmU?feature=shared
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GrandConjuraton
05/24/24 2:03:25 PM
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Whether or not he wins (I don't think he will), the Supreme Court is doing a bangup job at eroding our rights and democracy incrementally alone.

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McMarbles
05/24/24 2:04:44 PM
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GrandConjuraton posted...
Whether or not he wins (I don't think he will), the Supreme Court is doing a bangup job at eroding our rights and democracy incrementally alone.
Its almost as if who gets to pick justices matters.

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CADE_FOSTER
05/24/24 2:05:12 PM
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If scotus backs him then yes he will
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archizzy
05/24/24 2:05:59 PM
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First time Ive seen someone use the term Project 2024. Ive seen a lot of people talk about Project 2025.

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SauI_Goodman
05/24/24 2:06:35 PM
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bloodyarts posted...
https://youtu.be/WS2Bsq5PDmU?feature=shared
It's not throwing it away if everyone does it. Whooooooooooosh!

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Drunk_Cobra
05/24/24 2:07:10 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
If scotus backs him then yes he will
Democracy gonna die in a 6-3 vote baby.

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ScazarMeltex
05/24/24 2:07:53 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Guys, we don't need to vote either one of these jackasses in. There are other parties available.
"No class or group or party in Germany could escape its share of responsibility for the abandonment of the democratic republic and the advent of Adolf Hitler. The cardinal error of the Germans who opposed Nazism was their failure to unite against it. At the crest of their popular strength, in the july 1932, the National Socialists had attained but 37 percent of the vote. But the 63 percent who expressed their opposition to Hitler were much too divided and shortsighted to combine against a common danger which they must have known would overwhelm them unless they united, however temporarily, to stamp it out."
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This is America right now.

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LightningThief
05/24/24 2:11:20 PM
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MangaBroski posted...
Hes mused the idea in a joking manner and we saw what happened January 6th, 2021.
He wasn't joking.

It's best people stop saying he's joking. We know he's dead ass serious when he says stuff.
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Relient_K
05/24/24 2:11:46 PM
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It's kind of a coin toss. Which is scary. While as a straight white dude I'd probably be physically safe, the fact that I actually care about others means that I probably wouldn't blend well. Honestly I kind of seeth just seeing trump flags so I don't know if I could bite my tongue forever if things truly got bad. And I live in FL so it's going to get worse especially if he wins.

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Campbell
05/24/24 2:12:02 PM
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Trump will never be elected President again. I'm sure there are contingency plans to prevent that from happening a second time.
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Xenogears15
05/24/24 2:14:41 PM
#20:


No.

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bloodyarts
05/24/24 2:17:52 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
It's not throwing it away if everyone does it. Whooooooooooosh!
I have dreams, too. And they're all more realistic than this.
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bloodyarts
05/24/24 2:18:22 PM
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LightningThief posted...
He wasn't joking.

It's best people stop saying he's joking. We know he's dead ass serious when he says stuff.
They know, too.
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Nemu
05/24/24 2:19:44 PM
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While shit will likely be really bad for a lot of people if he does win, I do think people overstate the impact he would have. I don't think they have the intelligence or power to do so without a literal civil war happening.
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GrandConjuraton
05/24/24 2:20:49 PM
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Nemu posted...
While shit will likely be really bad for a lot of people if he does win, I do think people overstate the impact he would have. I don't think they have the intelligence or power to do so without a literal civil war happening.
Project 2025.

I still don't think he'll win either, though.

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Error1355
05/24/24 2:25:09 PM
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I think there is zero chance he wins the election provided the election actually happens as elections are supposed to happen.

I do not trust that the systems that bent but didn't break in 2020/21 that prevented the bullshit legal arguments that Trump and Co wanted to push will save us in 2024.

They have had too much time to prep the failure of their 2021 insurrection.

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McMarbles
05/24/24 2:26:16 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
It's not throwing it away if everyone does it. Whooooooooooosh!
First past the post voting system. Whooooooooooooosh!

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Heineken14
05/24/24 2:29:15 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Guys, we don't need to vote either one of these jackasses in. There are other parties available.

Big Brain take over here.

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CrimsonGear80
05/24/24 2:33:22 PM
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I think he will successfully be a convicted felon by this time next week

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Proto_Spark
05/24/24 2:35:05 PM
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There's a very good chance. Even if Biden wins, this is going to be every single election midterm and presidential election in the US for like, a generation at least. The next time the republicans get to be the power in the US again, its over.

Even with that, the biggest hurdle to this is ironically Trump himself. Because Trump is too stupid to quietly do the whole "fascist takeover" and I don't think he even really cares, he just is out for his own interest, and currently the way for him to stay out of prison is to just takeover America.

I think the bigger threat is if Trump is "dealt with" in some way - if Trump dies, the GOP can just push the whole Trump appeal onto one of the monsters they're trying to push, who actually are competent enough to actually end American democracy. But Trump has to step aside for that to happen, and he's not willing to do that.
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electricbugs2
05/24/24 2:48:02 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
There's a very good chance. Even if Biden wins, this is going to be every single election midterm and presidential election in the US for like, a generation at least. The next time the republicans get to be the power in the US again, its over.

Even with that, the biggest hurdle to this is ironically Trump himself. Because Trump is too stupid to quietly do the whole "fascist takeover" and I don't think he even really cares, he just is out for his own interest, and currently the way for him to stay out of prison is to just takeover America.

I think the bigger threat is if Trump is "dealt with" in some way - if Trump dies, the GOP can just push the whole Trump appeal onto one of the monsters they're trying to push, who actually are competent enough to actually end American democracy. But Trump has to step aside for that to happen, and he's not willing to do that.
You dont have to worry about generations to come since hes going to win this time. Even if Biden drops a complete landslide on him the Supreme Court will give it to Trump on some made up technicality. People need to start paying attention to more than Reddit or CE.

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LoZguy709
05/24/24 2:48:34 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
It's not throwing it away if everyone does it. Whooooooooooosh!

This is basically the latest Republican alternative scheme to suppressing voter turnout. Congratulations on being such a darling model for the GOP.
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ScazarMeltex
05/24/24 2:49:50 PM
#33:


electricbugs2 posted...
You dont have to worry about generations to come since hes going to win this time. Even if Biden drops a complete landslide on him the Supreme Court will give it to Trump on some made up technicality. People need to start paying attention to more than Reddit or CE.
Then we fight them in the streets.

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Proto_Spark
05/24/24 2:54:29 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
You dont have to worry about generations to come since hes going to win this time. Even if Biden drops a complete landslide on him the Supreme Court will give it to Trump on some made up technicality. People need to start paying attention to more than Reddit or CE.

The Supreme Court still needs some kind of justification to do something as major as overturning the election. There's a reason the same crooked court as today didn't do the same thing after 2020. If Trump loses the election and takes power anyways, it won't be through the courts. It'll be another Jan 6th-esque event, except it'll work this time.

They'll only give it to Trump in 2024 if the election is narrow enough, like Bush/Gore in 2000. If Biden has a decisive win the court won't have a real leg to stand on, and they'll just continue taking rights away until Trump/another republican wins again.
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trappedunderice
05/24/24 2:57:54 PM
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You mean oligarchy
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LoZguy709
05/24/24 3:02:15 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
The Supreme Court still needs some kind of justification to do something as major as overturning the election. There's a reason the same crooked court as today didn't do the same thing after 2020. If Trump loses the election and takes power anyways, it won't be through the courts. It'll be another Jan 6th-esque event, except it'll work this time.

They'll only give it to Trump in 2024 if the election is narrow enough, like Bush/Gore in 2000. If Biden has a decisive win the court won't have a real leg to stand on, and they'll just continue taking rights away until Trump/another republican wins again.

I remember making the same kind of point the other week. Glad to see the idea is getting through, even though it's sad people are using the Supreme Court in the first place as an argument for voting being futile. The only way the Supreme Court decides the election and gets away with it is if we leave enough room in the margin of victory for them to reasonably intervene. So if you're afraid of the Supreme Court getting involved, it's just more reason to get out the vote for Democrats, especially in swing states that will be more likely to be contested.
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LeoRavus
05/24/24 3:04:38 PM
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If it meant keeping him in office like a King I can't see any of his devotees opposing it. Whether he could actually make it happen is another story.

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Heineken14
05/24/24 3:20:42 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
You dont have to worry about generations to come since hes going to win this time

You're not doing anything coming in every single topic and say this shit.

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BlackOmnimon
05/24/24 3:23:18 PM
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...what democracy?

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bigblu89
05/24/24 3:38:06 PM
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I feel like Trump not being smart enough to know any better is the reason why there's a pretty good chance it WILL happen.

The wrong people gets their hooks in him, and he'll just be their puppet.

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LonelyStoner
05/24/24 3:40:02 PM
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bloodyarts posted...
https://youtu.be/WS2Bsq5PDmU?feature=shared
Its genuinely fucked up that this is the reality,

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electricbugs2
05/24/24 3:40:54 PM
#42:


Heineken14 posted...
You're not doing anything coming in every single topic and say this shit.
Too damn bad. My family lives in Texas and will be absolutely fucked come November. Had enough of the optimism from the shut ins here.

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C-zom
05/24/24 3:42:34 PM
#43:


What's going on with the supreme court?

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CountCorvinus
05/24/24 3:56:46 PM
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What democracy?

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SaikyoStyle
05/24/24 4:03:06 PM
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If he wins he will. Nobody will even think to try and stop him.

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Kradek
05/24/24 4:17:41 PM
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If he wins the election, yes.


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05/24/24 4:37:49 PM
#47:


CountCorvinus posted...
What democracy?


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MangaBroski
05/24/24 4:47:00 PM
#48:


CrimsonGear80 posted...
I think he will successfully be a convicted felon by this time next week
Thats what should happen. He demanded states fudge votes for him. He incited insurrection as response to the failure to win. Those actions stand against the very idea of American politics.
SaikyoStyle posted...
If he wins he will. Nobody will even think to try and stop him.
Maybe the USA in their cultural adoration of France will come together for a revolution. Are there enough groups to coalesce like happened then?

ScazarMeltex posted...
Then we fight them in the streets.
I like the idea, but doesnt Project 2025 involve putting some shill at the top of the military (I unfortunately do not remember the title)? The average people of this country cannot handle the USAs military. The disparity between equipment and training is too vast. Thats assuming Trump doesnt have some goons like brown shirts or gestappo to do work before hes need to call on the military. Although, Trumps ego would probably have him use military power first.
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LoZguy709
05/24/24 4:56:57 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
Too damn bad. My family lives in Texas and will be absolutely fucked come November. Had enough of the optimism from the shut ins here.

So you want to make sure everyone shares in your misery? Because your messaging lends perfectly to such an outcome.

Hope you and your family can find a way out of that shithole state. I live in Missouri, so while I still have a lot of idiots in my state, at least the fucked up climate as still at a point we can just mostly kind of ride out the tornadoes we have here.
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Toonstrack
05/24/24 5:03:57 PM
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Stronger men than him have tried.

So no.

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