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MisterPengy 05/25/24 10:49:37 AM #1:	https://www.gamespot.com/articles/uvalde-families-file-lawsuit-against-activision-and-meta/1100-6523731/ the lawsuits were filed by attorney Josh Koskoff, who contends that Activision and Meta share responsibility for *"grooming... socially vulnerable" young men with violent video game fantasies. The complaint also states that both companies "knowingly exposed the Shooter to the weapon, conditioned him to see it as the solution to his problems, and trained him to use it." As spelled out in the lawsuit, the families allege that Ramos downloaded a copy of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare that features the same DDM4V7 model rifle that he later purchased and used for the school shooting. Additionally, it accuses Meta of sending Ramos targeted ads for the same gun on Instagram* from the manufacturer, Daniel Defense. --- Bosses are immune to the eat command so it won't be possible to end the final boss fight of the game by eating it. -VeghEsther <cite>MisterPengy posted [p:980551010] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>https://www.gamespot.com/articles/uvalde-families-file-lawsuit-against-activision-and-meta/1100-6523731/the lawsuits were filed by attorney Josh Koskoff, who contends that Activision and Meta share responsibility for "grooming... socially vulnerable" young men with violent video game fantasies. The complaint also states that both companies "knowingly exposed the Shooter to the weapon, conditioned him to see it as the solution to his problems, and trained him to use it."As spelled out in the lawsuit, the families allege that Ramos downloaded a copy of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare that features the same DDM4V7 model rifle that he later purchased and used for the school shooting. Additionally, it accuses Meta of sending Ramos targeted ads for the same gun on Instagram from the manufacturer, Daniel Defense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/25/24 10:51:53 AM #2:	Should be thrown out by a judge. We already know that video games don't cause real life violence. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:980551027] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Should be thrown out by a judge. We already know that video games don't cause real life violence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__starsnostars 05/25/24 11:06:12 AM #3:	I've never seen an advertisement for firearms. Maybe that's a uniquely American thing? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDyXIXyAZq0 Please consider adopting a cat from your SPCA or local animal shelter. <cite>__starsnostars posted [p:980551196] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>I've never seen an advertisement for firearms. Maybe that's a uniquely American thing? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 05/25/24 11:09:16 AM #4:	I should think the Jack Thompson fiasco should be precedent enough that this case is BS. If anyone should be sued, it's the fucking police department. --- As the morning sun rises, my lingering memories fade. I no longer see your silhouette. It's too far gone into the haze. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:980551228] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>I should think the Jack Thompson fiasco should be precedent enough that this case is BS. If anyone should be sued, it's the fucking police department. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 05/25/24 11:13:17 AM #6:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] It would explain why many of them still voted for Abbott --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:980551274] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> It would explain why many of them still voted for Abbott </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 05/25/24 11:14:21 AM #7:	Thats sounds like greedy lawyers making a reach --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:980551283] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Thats sounds like greedy lawyers making a reach </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/25/24 11:14:36 AM #8:	__starsnostars posted... I've never seen an advertisement for firearms. Maybe that's a uniquely American thing? It's possible it was made up but I wouldn't know since I don't own guns or look them up so I wouldn't get ads for them. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:980551286] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>__starsnostars posted...</cite><quote>I've never seen an advertisement for firearms. Maybe that's a uniquely American thing?</quote>It's possible it was made up but I wouldn't know since I don't own guns or look them up so I wouldn't get ads for them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MisterPengy 05/25/24 11:17:09 AM #9:	__starsnostars posted... I've never seen an advertisement for firearms. Maybe that's a uniquely American thing? The article says Meta doesn't allow advertisements for guns, but the gun company's page posted promotional material. So it's not like you'll be scrolling along and stumble on "Buy our deadly weapon!" ads, but if you're looking at gun pages, you can see posts that are basically ads. --- Bosses are immune to the eat command so it won't be possible to end the final boss fight of the game by eating it. -VeghEsther <cite>MisterPengy posted [p:980551319] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>__starsnostars posted... </cite><quote>I've never seen an advertisement for firearms. Maybe that's a uniquely American thing?</quote>The article says Meta doesn't allow advertisements for guns, but the gun company's page posted promotional material. So it's not like you'll be scrolling along and stumble on "Buy our deadly weapon!" ads, but if you're looking at gun pages, you can see posts that are basically ads. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
modena 05/25/24 11:17:32 AM #10:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] My first thought...sad. --- I'm surrounded <cite>modena posted [p:980551327] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> My first thought...sad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kami_no_Kami 05/25/24 11:20:35 AM #11:	Texans: Guns dont kill people. Advertisements for guns kill people. <cite>Kami_no_Kami posted [p:980551360] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Texans: Guns dont kill people. Advertisements for guns kill people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth_C_Ryu 05/25/24 11:21:16 AM #12:	By all means, lets just let those states have no video games anymore as well as no doctors. Only half /s The "American Thing To Do" is to rise up against oppressors. Supposedly. --- I am the Hunter of Topics. My post never fails to kill its prey. pounces Nyaa! <cite>Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted [p:980551363] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>By all means, lets just let those states have no video games anymore as well as no doctors. Only half /sThe "American Thing To Do" is to rise up against oppressors. Supposedly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE_FOSTER 05/25/24 11:34:29 AM #13:	Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... I should think the Jack Thompson fiasco should be precedent enough that this case is BS. If anyone should be sued, it's the fucking police department. They did that the city is paying 2 million <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:980551500] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... </cite><quote>I should think the Jack Thompson fiasco should be precedent enough that this case is BS. If anyone should be sued, it's the fucking police department.</quote>They did that the city is paying 2 million</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeeathLivesOn 05/25/24 11:47:52 AM #14:	Revelation34 posted... Should be thrown out by a judge. We already know that video games don't cause real life violence. --- 'Just sitting around the house tonight w my dog. Felt like I should be doing something important, but couldn't put my finger on it.' - Phil Kessel on USA snub <cite>HeeathLivesOn posted [p:980551629] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>Should be thrown out by a judge. We already know that video games don't cause real life violence.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 05/25/24 12:13:56 PM #15:	CADE_FOSTER posted... They did that the city is paying 2 million Oh, good. --- As the morning sun rises, my lingering memories fade. I no longer see your silhouette. It's too far gone into the haze. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:980551921] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>CADE_FOSTER posted... </cite><quote>They did that the city is paying 2 million</quote>Oh, good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/26/24 5:27:11 AM #16:	MisterPengy posted... The article says Meta doesn't allow advertisements for guns, but the gun company's page posted promotional material. So it's not like you'll be scrolling along and stumble on "Buy our deadly weapon!" ads, but if you're looking at gun pages, you can see posts that are basically ads. Then that would also be irrelevant. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:980562943] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>MisterPengy posted...</cite><quote>The article says Meta doesn't allow advertisements for guns, but the gun company's page posted promotional material. So it's not like you'll be scrolling along and stumble on "Buy our deadly weapon!" ads, but if you're looking at gun pages, you can see posts that are basically ads.</quote>Then that would also be irrelevant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 05/26/24 5:32:23 AM #17:	Revelation34 posted... Should be thrown out by a judge. We already know that video games don't cause real life violence. the meta part is probably actually fair they do infact do targeted ads <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:980562968] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>Should be thrown out by a judge. We already know that video games don't cause real life violence.</quote>the meta part is probably actually fairthey do infact do targeted ads</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/26/24 5:33:20 AM #18:	WingsOfGood posted... the meta part is probably actually fair they do infact do targeted ads Read the previous post I just quoted. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:980562971] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted...</cite><quote>the meta part is probably actually fairthey do infact do targeted ads</quote>Read the previous post I just quoted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 05/26/24 5:54:49 AM #20:	If this was true the cop would have done something. --- Biden is the greatest President ever. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:980563067] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>If this was true the cop would have done something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hyena_Of_Ice 05/26/24 6:14:39 AM #21:	MisterPengy posted... The article says Meta doesn't allow advertisements for guns, but the gun company's page posted promotional material. So it's not like you'll be scrolling along and stumble on "Buy our deadly weapon!" ads, but if you're looking at gun pages, you can see posts that are basically ads. Yeah, these idiots have it backwards. Videogames didn't attract these shooters to violence. These shooters were already obsessed with violence, which is why they were attracted to firearms/weapons and violent media. An all-consuming obsession with human-on-human violence is the one thing that mass rampage shooters have in common. (They often idolize other mass killers as well, but not always) <cite>Hyena_Of_Ice posted [p:980563148] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>MisterPengy posted... </cite><quote>The article says Meta doesn't allow advertisements for guns, but the gun company's page posted promotional material. So it's not like you'll be scrolling along and stumble on "Buy our deadly weapon!" ads, but if you're looking at gun pages, you can see posts that are basically ads.</quote>Yeah, these idiots have it backwards. Videogames didn't attract these shooters to violence. These shooters were already obsessed with violence, which is why they were attracted to firearms/weapons and violent media. An all-consuming obsession with human-on-human violence is the one thing that mass rampage shooters have in common. (They often idolize other mass killers as well, but not always)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 05/26/24 6:28:20 AM #22:	What is the age recommendation for the Call of Modern Duty: Warfare Black Ops games in America? --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:980563205] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>What is the age recommendation for the Call of Modern Duty: Warfare Black Ops games in America? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 05/26/24 6:32:14 AM #23:	This reeks of greedy lawyers taking advantage of grieving families to try and get a payday. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-4g7SeTAoQ <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:980563222] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>This reeks of greedy lawyers taking advantage of grieving families to try and get a payday. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE_FOSTER 05/26/24 7:27:11 AM #24:	Vyrulisse posted... This reeks of greedy lawyers taking advantage of grieving families to try and get a payday. well they were never gonna get satisfaction in Texas with gop laws all those cops should have been fired and charged and the video should have been released <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:980563515] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Vyrulisse posted... </cite><quote>This reeks of greedy lawyers taking advantage of grieving families to try and get a payday.</quote>well they were never gonna get satisfaction in Texas with gop laws all those cops should have been fired and charged and the video should have been released </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McMarbles 05/26/24 7:55:22 AM #25:	Some lawyer smells blood. --- Currently playing: Rune Factory 5 (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. <cite>McMarbles posted [p:980563687] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Some lawyer smells blood. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/26/24 10:06:47 AM #26:	008Zulu posted... What is the age recommendation for the Call of Modern Duty: Warfare Black Ops games in America? Age recommendations are irrelevant since it's rare anybody refuses to sale to minors and if they do it's easy to find somebody to buy the game for you since it isn't a crime. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:980564578] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>008Zulu posted...</cite><quote>What is the age recommendation for the Call of Modern Duty: Warfare Black Ops games in America?</quote>Age recommendations are irrelevant since it's rare anybody refuses to sale to minors and if they do it's easy to find somebody to buy the game for you since it isn't a crime. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 05/26/24 10:07:39 AM #27:	008Zulu posted... What is the age recommendation for the Call of Modern Duty: Warfare Black Ops games in America? Recommended to ages 17 and older. Those under 17 require a parent or guardian. --- Just call me Discount Dan. <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:980564587] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>008Zulu posted... </cite><quote>What is the age recommendation for the Call of Modern Duty: Warfare Black Ops games in America?</quote>Recommended to ages 17 and older. Those under 17 require a parent or guardian. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE_FOSTER 05/26/24 10:08:24 AM #28:	Problem is that is never enforced tons of little children play cod <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:980564592] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Problem is that is never enforced tons of little children play cod</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 05/26/24 10:25:16 AM #29:	It's a point of fact that the gun lobby has sold a culture of guns that almost amount to a psy-op through subtle signaling and overt dog whistling. And it's 100% worked to increase the sales and circulation of firearms and firearms accessories, as well as increasing mass shooting and other types of gun violence incidents. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/firearms-industry-scrutinized-for-how-it-markets-to-consumers Video games don't cause violence. But a video game that was the equivalent of a Sears Christmas catalog wish list to the point where they were sued into no longer using real names for the very real weapons in the game because of that connection... is very telling. And the manufacturers always knew this. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/video-game-maker-drops-gun-makers-not-their-guns-flna1c9840069 You can see how games like MW share more responsibility in this debate than the debunked "games cause violence" canard. They've been a willing and complicit advertising partner in a culture that sells guns as sexy and cool in ways similar to Joe Camel selling cigarettes. The lawsuit has merits, if it's levied in the right way. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:980564733] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>It's a point of fact that the gun lobby has sold a culture of guns that almost amount to a psy-op through subtle signaling and overt dog whistling. And it's 100% worked to increase the sales and circulation of firearms and firearms accessories, as well as increasing mass shooting and other types of gun violence incidents.https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/firearms-industry-scrutinized-for-how-it-markets-to-consumersVideo games don't cause violence. But a video game that was the equivalent of a Sears Christmas catalog wish list to the point where they were sued into no longer using real names for the very real weapons in the game because of that connection... is very telling.And the manufacturers always knew this.https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/video-game-maker-drops-gun-makers-not-their-guns-flna1c9840069You can see how games like MW share more responsibility in this debate than the debunked "games cause violence" canard. They've been a willing and complicit advertising partner in a culture that sells guns as sexy and cool in ways similar to Joe Camel selling cigarettes. The lawsuit has merits, if it's levied in the right way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/26/24 11:19:38 AM #30:	Cheater87 posted... Recommended to ages 17 and older. Those under 17 require a parent or guardian. They're not laws. They don't require anything. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:980565190] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Cheater87 posted...</cite><quote>Recommended to ages 17 and older. Those under 17 require a parent or guardian. </quote>They're not laws. They don't require anything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MisterPengy 05/26/24 11:49:30 AM #31:	Revelation34 posted... Then that would also be irrelevant. I could see an argument that showing promoted posts from a company counts as "advertising" In that case the difference would be did the shooter see these gun company's posts because they intentionally went to that company's page, or did the algorithm put it in their feed? --- Bosses are immune to the eat command so it won't be possible to end the final boss fight of the game by eating it. -VeghEsther <cite>MisterPengy posted [p:980565524] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>Then that would also be irrelevant.</quote>I could see an argument that showing promoted posts from a company counts as "advertising"In that case the difference would be did the shooter see these gun company's posts because they intentionally went to that company's page, or did the algorithm put it in their feed? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Binkster 05/26/24 11:51:04 AM #32:	bruh --- So far, 2021 has been 2020.1. <cite>Binkster posted [p:980565541] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>bruh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 05/26/24 11:51:52 AM #33:	Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted... By all means, lets just let those states have no video games anymore as well as no doctors. Only half /s The "American Thing To Do" is to rise up against oppressors. Supposedly. Problem is if it happens in Texas it just means that it will happen in other states. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:980565552] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted... </cite><quote>By all means, lets just let those states have no video games anymore as well as no doctors. Only half /sThe "American Thing To Do" is to rise up against oppressors. Supposedly.</quote>Problem is if it happens in Texas it just means that it will happen in other states. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 05/27/24 2:32:37 AM #34:	Cheater87 posted... Recommended to ages 17 and older. Those under 17 require a parent or guardian. Since those kids were all under 17, I expect the relevant companies to make that their primary defense. Revelation34 posted... They're not laws. They don't require anything. For comparison, here in Australia it is against the law to sell games like that to underage persons. A parent has to buy it for them. --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:980575776] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Cheater87 posted... </cite><quote>Recommended to ages 17 and older. Those under 17 require a parent or guardian.</quote>Since those kids were all under 17, I expect the relevant companies to make that their primary defense.Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>They're not laws. They don't require anything.</quote>For comparison, here in Australia it is against the law to sell games like that to underage persons. A parent has to buy it for them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hyena_Of_Ice 05/27/24 2:39:01 AM #35:	Cheater87 posted... Recommended to ages 17 and older. Those under 17 require a parent or guardian. In addition, you have to be 18 in order to make online purchases, so according to the law, you need to be a legal adult in order to purchase it on Steam. <cite>Hyena_Of_Ice posted [p:980575807] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Cheater87 posted... </cite><quote>Recommended to ages 17 and older. Those under 17 require a parent or guardian.</quote>In addition, you have to be 18 in order to make online purchases, so according to the law, you need to be a legal adult in order to purchase it on Steam.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/27/24 5:42:32 AM #36:	Hyena_Of_Ice posted... In addition, you have to be 18 in order to make online purchases, so according to the law, you need to be a legal adult in order to purchase it on Steam. Since when? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:980576712] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Hyena_Of_Ice posted...</cite><quote>In addition, you have to be 18 in order to make online purchases, so according to the law, you need to be a legal adult in order to purchase it on Steam.</quote>Since when? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BDSMKane 05/27/24 6:09:11 AM #37:	__starsnostars posted... I've never seen an advertisement for firearms. Maybe that's a uniquely American thing? As a multiple firearm owner who is subscribed to about a dozen different websites for firearm and/or parts purchases, Ive never seen one either outside of my email or actual mail. A couple bigger companies sent me a catalogue (mostly of parts) and I get those spam emails I unsubscribe from about deals going on. But Ive never seen an ad banner on any website for firearms. --- No matter our origin, we are all one family, we all share one planet, and we all need to feel loved and accepted. We are more alike than different. <cite>BDSMKane posted [p:980576826] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>__starsnostars posted... </cite><quote>I've never seen an advertisement for firearms. Maybe that's a uniquely American thing?</quote>As a multiple firearm owner who is subscribed to about a dozen different websites for firearm and/or parts purchases, Ive never seen one either outside of my email or actual mail. A couple bigger companies sent me a catalogue (mostly of parts) and I get those spam emails I unsubscribe from about deals going on. But Ive never seen an ad banner on any website for firearms. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BDSMKane 05/27/24 6:15:20 AM #38:	Hyena_Of_Ice posted... Yeah, these idiots have it backwards. Videogames didn't attract these shooters to violence. These shooters were already obsessed with violence, which is why they were attracted to firearms/weapons and violent media. Sounds like a chicken or the egg argument though. If theres no way to definitively say whether they were attracted to the violent video games or they just happen to play violet video games, then what good does the information do? You can ask any psychiatric professional and they will tell you there are millions of Americans who think violent thoughts and never act on any of them for their entire life. --- No matter our origin, we are all one family, we all share one planet, and we all need to feel loved and accepted. We are more alike than different. <cite>BDSMKane posted [p:980576860] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Hyena_Of_Ice posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, these idiots have it backwards. Videogames didn't attract these shooters to violence. These shooters were already obsessed with violence, which is why they were attracted to firearms/weapons and violent media.</quote>Sounds like a chicken or the egg argument though. If theres no way to definitively say whether they were attracted to the violent video games or they just happen to play violet video games, then what good does the information do? You can ask any psychiatric professional and they will tell you there are millions of Americans who think violent thoughts and never act on any of them for their entire life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 05/27/24 6:24:39 AM #39:	CADE_FOSTER posted... Problem is that is never enforced tons of little children play cod it's usually proven ever 3 years(since i was like 6) that games have no correlation at all to real world violence and the only effect videogames have on people is improving cognition and hand-eye coordination as well as memory. BDSMKane posted... Sounds like a chicken or the egg argument though. If theres no way to definitively say whether they were attracted to the violent video games or they just happen to play violet video games, then what good does the information do? You can ask any psychiatric professional and they will tell you there are millions of Americans who think violent thoughts and never act on any of them for their entire life. Blah blah blah blah this shit is old and that is why the US government stopped going after videogame companies. They've tried several times and I guess were embarrassed enough times. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:980576918] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>CADE_FOSTER posted... </cite><quote>Problem is that is never enforced tons of little children play cod</quote>it's usually proven ever 3 years(since i was like 6) that games have no correlation at all to real world violence and the only effect videogames have on people is improving cognition and hand-eye coordination as well as memory.BDSMKane posted... </cite><quote>Sounds like a chicken or the egg argument though. If theres no way to definitively say whether they were attracted to the violent video games or they just happen to play violet video games, then what good does the information do? You can ask any psychiatric professional and they will tell you there are millions of Americans who think violent thoughts and never act on any of them for their entire life.</quote>Blah blah blah blah this shit is old and that is why the US government stopped going after videogame companies. They've tried several times and I guess were embarrassed enough times. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/28/24 5:35:55 AM #40:	BDSMKane posted... Sounds like a chicken or the egg argument though. If theres no way to definitively say whether they were attracted to the violent video games or they just happen to play violet video games, then what good does the information do? You can ask any psychiatric professional and they will tell you there are millions of Americans who think violent thoughts and never act on any of them for their entire life. They would also tell you video games have nothing to do with it. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:980590400] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>BDSMKane posted...</cite><quote>Sounds like a chicken or the egg argument though. If theres no way to definitively say whether they were attracted to the violent video games or they just happen to play violet video games, then what good does the information do? You can ask any psychiatric professional and they will tell you there are millions of Americans who think violent thoughts and never act on any of them for their entire life.</quote>They would also tell you video games have nothing to do with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 05/28/24 7:48:22 AM #41:	37-40... gone. Is Kane posting and getting quoted? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:980591080] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>37-40... gone.Is Kane posting and getting quoted? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/28/24 9:28:14 AM #42:	DnDer posted... 37-40... gone. Is Kane posting and getting quoted? 37-40? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:980591879] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted...</cite><quote>37-40... gone.Is Kane posting and getting quoted?</quote>37-40? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 05/28/24 11:35:10 AM #43:	DnDer posted... 37-40... gone. Is Kane posting and getting quoted? Yes. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:980593526] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>37-40... gone.Is Kane posting and getting quoted?</quote>Yes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 05/28/24 11:44:12 AM #45:	They realized that $2 million split amongst all of them is nothing, so now it's time to blame everything and everyone else instead of the cops who stood around and did nothing. --- "I dreamt I was a moron." <cite>Strider102 posted [p:980593616] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>They realized that $2 million split amongst all of them is nothing, so now it's time to blame everything and everyone else instead of the cops who stood around and did nothing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 05/28/24 11:49:32 AM #46:	Im sorry for them and all they went through. But this one is just sad, petty and greedy. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:980593665] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote> Im sorry for them and all they went through. But this one is just sad, petty and greedy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 05/28/24 6:11:52 PM #47:	Strider102 posted... They realized that $2 million split amongst all of them is nothing, so now it's time to blame everything and everyone else instead of the cops who stood around and did nothing. They do blame the cops, but qualified immunity makes them untouchable. --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:980598559] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Strider102 posted... </cite><quote>They realized that $2 million split amongst all of them is nothing, so now it's time to blame everything and everyone else instead of the cops who stood around and did nothing.</quote>They do blame the cops, but qualified immunity makes them untouchable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE_FOSTER 05/29/24 4:14:45 PM #48:	Strider102 posted... They realized that $2 million split amongst all of them is nothing, so now it's time to blame everything and everyone else instead of the cops who stood around and did nothing. The city paid for the cops thats the settlement <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:980612095] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>Strider102 posted... </cite><quote>They realized that $2 million split amongst all of them is nothing, so now it's time to blame everything and everyone else instead of the cops who stood around and did nothing.</quote>The city paid for the cops thats the settlement </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Karate_II 05/29/24 4:16:38 PM #49:	The judge better throw this shit out, it's been proven time and time again video game violence doesn't make people violent. --- Michigan Wolverines 30 to Ohio state 24: 11/25/23 Michigan Wolverines Football:15-0 ,Rose Bowl Champions&National Champions <cite>Mr_Karate_II posted [p:980612119] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>The judge better throw this shit out, it's been proven time and time again video game violence doesn't make people violent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnterTheTekken 05/29/24 10:57:54 PM #50:	And most likely the slime attorney who filed this suit probably took it on contingency. Which means they get a gross percentage of the settlement or judgement while the rest gets divvyed up amongst the multiple participants after taxes. Typical contingency percentages can yield up to 40% of whatever the award is. --- https://media.giphy.com/media/a3IWyhkEC0p32/giphy.gif <cite>EnterTheTekken posted [p:980617302] in Families o... [t:80776247]...</cite> <quote>And most likely the slime attorney who filed this suit probably took it on contingency. Which means they get a gross percentage of the settlement or judgement while the rest gets divvyed up amongst the multiple participants after taxes.Typical contingency percentages can yield up to 40% of whatever the award is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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