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I'm the closing manager tonight at work. Got a text saying a closer called off.
I check the rundown for the day and that takes us from 3 people for the last two hours of being open and the closing stuff, to just two of us.

First off - no. I don't want to work. I happily accept that. But given I don't have that luxury, what I'd consider a fair consolation would to not be staffed at the barest minimum. 3 closers is already extremely stressful, entirely needlessly, 2 is just ridiculous

/rant

Epidemic or empanada?

Oh, and I work for a company valued at around $90 Billion. I don't think paying an an extra ~$110 for another body would have hurt their bottom line too much.

Sounds like a managerial staffing issue not a "person who doesn't want to work" issue.

People get sick. People call out. If the business is all but screwed when even one person calls out, that's poor staffing and/or leadership

The problem with the whole not wanting to work thing is that companies dont want to pay for more workers as that eats into their profits and of course everyone knows profits are more important than a decent work place

Someone post the picture of people saying "nobody wants to work" with newspaper quotes going back to the like 1920s.

But on a serious note, does your company pay these people like shit or did the person call out for at least a legitimate emergency (even if they lied about it, at least presented it as legitimate)?

I haven't had a job in 24 years because I don't want to work.

Kradek posted...

Someone post the picture of people saying "nobody wants to work" with newspaper quotes going back to the like 1920s.

Sure.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/35a0a03e.jpg

ai123 posted...

Sure.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/35a0a03e.jpg

Oh it goes back even further than the 20s, thanks.

I don't wanna work, I just wanna bang on my drums all day. - disgusted businessman

Work is infuriating at times. My job actually pays well but getting anyone who is working with me to do a damn thing is like pulling teeth. We allot people the last hour of work to, in a way to make it easier to understand, 'Go behind the counter and finish up stuff in the back, but come out if things get too busy' .... Well, this is a remote job and those people never come out. They see the last hour of the day, move to the 'back', and it could be the busiest day in ever, and they will never come out to help.

I blew a gasket last night over this. And when I reminded them they need to come out when we are busy, one had the fucking nerve to give me a thumbs up and not help. Fuck him.

If this happened at Taco Bell, the store manager would come in. If the store manager was out, the franchise director of operations (fancy title for the most senior store manager who had multiple stores under their stewardship) would come.

dey just want to bang on de drums all day

pnut027 posted...

If this happened at Taco Bell, the store manager would come in. If the store manager was out, the franchise director of operations (fancy title for the most senior store manager who had multiple stores under their stewardship) would come.

Oh yea, the Store Mgr left out of state about a month ago, hasn't been replaced and there was no ASM

The day is not going well. I shouldnt be this stressed over making coffee.

I feel like when situations get to this, the money/payroll they would have to spend on person #3 gets split between person #1&2 to make it worth

Hearing a 'person #3 called out, you get half their days pay instead' would lift peoples moods I bet

https://youtu.be/qmRzbKNbTsY?si=hBVpFFzKgWvz5Me5

No rest for the wicked or something

#immygen

people don't call a coworker to cover or trade shifts? that happens a lot at my night time restaurant job, it's pretty annoying but I don't really care cus it just means more tips for me.

Mad_Cow46 posted...

The problem with the whole not wanting to work thing is that companies dont want to pay for more workers as that eats into their profits and of course everyone knows profits are more important than a decent work place

This is the most based thing I have ever seen you post.

Good job!

What kind of job is it? How much do the employees make? Were they forced to work a shift they didnt want to?

Feels like you should be blaming the corporation, over "nobody wants to work."

Yep, that's what happens when you consistently run at the bare minimum rather than a surplus.

But that's Capitalism baby.

ooger posted...

This is the most based thing I have ever seen you post.

Good job!

thanks sunshine

FolkenRawr posted...

3 closers is already extremely stressful, entirely needlessly, 2 is just ridiculous

So your boss should hire more correct?

Now understand how stupid saying no one wants to work is when your boss refuses to hire more.

FolkenRawr posted...

Oh yea, the Store Mgr left out of state about a month ago, hasn't been replaced and there was no ASM

The day is not going well. I shouldnt be this stressed over making coffee.

Also bosses do this because they can

If you are stressed out work still gets done right?
Yes?
So why should he hire another person?

WingsOfGood posted...

Also bosses do this because they can

If you are stressed out work still gets done right?
Yes?
So why should he hire another person?

People quit. That's why.

We used to have someone who carried sooooooooooo much weight at my job. He quit. And the burden of him leaving is very felt.

Cemith posted...

Sounds like a managerial staffing issue not a "person who doesn't want to work" issue.

People get sick. People call out. If the business is all but screwed when even one person calls out, that's poor staffing and/or leadership

This

Yeah this is a problem with management. At my former job we started out with 1 person per shift which made it a nightmare if someone called out. Then someone quit and management decided to stick with only 2 people for 3 shifts.

Upper management gets rewarded with bonuses if they're cheap enough.

Sayoria posted...

People quit. That's why.

We used to have someone who carried sooooooooooo much weight at my job. He quit. And the burden of him leaving is very felt.

Yes but a bosses is supposed to plan for this.
So it is not the reason why. The reason is they don't want to hire for contingency.

And if that stresses you out they don't care. They won't care till you quit too.

FolkenRawr posted...

3 closers is already extremely stressful, entirely needlessly, 2 is just ridiculous

So your boss should hire more people.

The fact that you can run it with the amount of personnel you have says that no, the boss doesn't need to hire more.

Perhaps it takes you twice as long to close, or perhaps without the proper amount of people things slip through the cracks.

Who the fuck wants to work

Gwynevere posted...

Who the fuck wants to work

Exactly we don't want to work we have to work

GateOfDoom posted...

Exactly we don't want to work we have to work

Remember, a job is a privilege and it works both ways. Too often employers feel like its their right to have employees. If you ever feel like a job is abusing you, quit, there's likely plenty of places that would treat you better.

ClayGuida posted...

Remember, a job is a privilege and it works both ways. Too often employers feel like its their right to have employees. If you ever feel like a job is abusing you, quit, there's likely plenty of places that would treat you better.

When you have a truck note and now im.about to have a morgage younl cant just quit your job

GateOfDoom posted...

When you have a truck note and now im.about to have a morgage younl cant just quit your job

You can use your job to find another one.

Ive been in retail, not as a manager, but when you are constantly running around because a quadrillion dollar megacorp chooses to staff you the bare minimum all day. It wasn't always like that, but at some point in my 7 years working for megacorp it became that way. Skeleton crews all around. That's a corporate decision. Do you think the store manager actually wants people to wait in line all day?

I am now the General Manager of a liquor store which I like a LOT better, but it's a gov't job(control state) and I am in a union. THAT'S what it takes, I guess, for retail to not suck completely. But I am happy.

I have no advice, but hopefully some day you do find a job that makes you happy.

If you can do everything with a skeleton crew, why hire anyone else.

At a certain point things have to stop actually get done.

mystic_belmont posted...

If you can do everything with a skeleton crew, why hire anyone else.

At a certain point things have to stop actually get done.

exactly

and that is why people need to realize what nobody wants to work actually means

nobody wants to work is said so you don't quit knowing what they are doing

they tell you nobody wants to work as they burn resumes and refuse to hire anyone else because you are doing the job well enough they don't have to hire anyone else

they want you to believe people just don't want the jobs so you while stressed and frustrated...don't blame them, and they are the only one truly to blame

WingsOfGood posted...

exactly

and that is why people need to realize what nobody wants to work actually means

nobody wants to work is said so you don't quit knowing what they are doing

they tell you nobody wants to work as they burn resumes and refuse to hire anyone else because you are doing the job well enough they don't have to hire anyone else

they want you to believe people just don't want the jobs so you while stressed and frustrated...don't blame them, and they are the only one truly to blame

It's crab bucket mentality.

It sucks because we all want to perform to the best of our ability.

Our union said it best: Things wont change if they see that you can still do the job with the bare minimum.

So hurt their wallets. Food and drinks take twice as long to go out. The public areas dont get cleaned properly. Open late because you have to do all the prep night shift didnt have time to do,

BucketCat posted...

people don't call a coworker to cover or trade shifts? that happens a lot at my night time restaurant job, it's pretty annoying but I don't really care cus it just means more tips for me.

If I have to call off last minute, like it sounds like OP had pulled on him, I wouldn't have the ability to call someone to cover, because it's likely an emergency of some kind.

If I have more than 24 hours ahead that I know I won't be on shift, I do my best to make arrangements to cover.

(But, in the end, if I notify my manager with enough time beforehand, it's really his job to staff his department. For example, if I explain in July that I'm taking two weeks in September, that's a manager problem, not mine. That's not what happened here, so I guess it's kind of immaterial.)

DnDer posted...

If I have to call off last minute, like it sounds like OP had pulled on him, I wouldn't have the ability to call someone to cover, because it's likely an emergency of some kind.

If I have more than 24 hours ahead that I know I won't be on shift, I do my best to make arrangements to cover.

(But, in the end, if I notify my manager with enough time beforehand, it's really his job to staff his department. For example, if I explain in July that I'm taking two weeks in September, that's a manager problem, not mine. That's not what happened here, so I guess it's kind of immaterial.)

When I did my two weeks with the Reserves last year, my lab manager told me Id have to find someone to keep the testers cold overnight. I looked at her and said, Youre the damn lab manager and left. See yall in 15 days.

pnut027 posted...

When I did my two weeks with the Reserves last year, my lab manager told me Id have to find someone to keep the testers cold overnight. I looked at her and said, Youre the damn lab manager and left. See yall in 15 days.

this needs to happen more and more

like what does a manager even do if they cannot manage who does what shift lmao?

ClayGuida posted...

Remember, a job is a privilege and it works both ways.

No. Just... no.

ClayGuida posted...

If you ever feel like a job is abusing you, quit, there's likely plenty of places that would treat you better.

Quitting is a privilege. Especially in the economy we live in.

Until the necessities for life are decoupled from the value our labor produces, quitting is the ultimate privilege. It means you have the capital to not work, even for a short time, and not be left exposed to the elements to struggle and die. That's the definition of privilege these days.

WingsOfGood posted...

this needs to happen more and more

like what does a manager even do if they cannot manage who does what shift lmao?

Thats how it always is. They want the title, money and power, but none of the responsibility.

argonautweakend posted...

Ive been in retail, not as a manager, but when you are constantly running around because a quadrillion dollar megacorp chooses to staff you the bare minimum all day.

"We didn't become a quadrillion dollar megacorp by paying a fair wage to our employees. Now excuse me, while I smoke a cigar that's the equivalent of an entire shift's wages and opex from my yacht on this zoom call from a SOTA Microsoft surface I forced IT to deploy and integrate against policy because I'd fire them otherwise. Gwa-ha-ha-ha!"

argonautweakend posted...

THAT'S what it takes, I guess, for retail to not suck completely.

Goddamn right it does. People fought and bled and died in order to make work not suck. And everyone benefits from their sacrifice.

The weren't just heroes. They were union men.

Not just union, but a government job. So there is no real corporate. No credit cards to push. No rewards system. A lot of the bullshit in corporate retail doesn't exist where I work and it's great. I don't even have sales metrics I have to hit, individually or as a store either.

pnut027 posted...

It sucks because we all want to perform to the best of our ability.

Our union said it best: Things wont change if they see that you can still do the job with the bare minimum.

So hurt their wallets. Food and drinks take twice as long to go out. The public areas dont get cleaned properly. Open late because you have to do all the prep night shift didnt have time to do,

And, the best part of that scenario is that it's not even a work slowdown. It's literally getting as much done as staffing levels allow for what they're paying you.

"Above and beyond" is for people who give their work and sweat away for free.

argonautweakend posted...

Not just union, but a government job. So there is no real corporate. No credit cards to push. No rewards system. A lot of the bullshit in corporate retail doesn't exist where I work and it's great. I don't even have sales metrics I have to hit, individually or as a store either.

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...you hiring?