Current Events > Eight years later, Hillary is still blaming everyone but herself for losing

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action52 posted...

The one post with the meme wasn't doing that, it was a joke in which the world has become a Christo-fascist dystopia, and showing people who DIDN'T want that but helped make it happen by giving the GOP power due to their hatred of Hillary Clinton.

That's certainly what people think they're saying when they share it around, sure.

SauI_Goodman posted...

I think she lost the black vote too in addition to female voters.

She lost the black woman vote back in 2008 when both she and Gloria Steinem suggested that any black woman who voted for Obama was betraying women for her race.

Vigero posted...

I'll ask again - where is the proof I asked of you multiple times?

No more distractions. No more bait. No more excuses. Post it, or admit that you're a liar.

Vigrim, did Joe Biden win 2020 fairly or not? This is pretty damning proof that you are Vigrim @Vigero

vigero refusing to answer if Joe Biden won the 2020 election fairly is hilarious

Hilldawg literally lost an election to the guy from The Apprentice. gut gud, scrub

PraetorXyn posted...

Gerrymandering has no impact whatsoever on statewide elections.

That's not true at all.

The article below doesn't use it as an example, but I think one of the most notorious times star gerrymandering impacted state was when Wisconsin Democrats won 60% of the vote and ended up with 30% of the representation because Republicans engineered it that way.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-redistricting-affects-the-battle-for-state-legislatures/

she won the popular vote by 3 million.

she lost swing states because she probably didn't think so many women would vote for the party that wants to take their rights away.

BunkerBoy posted...

Vigrim, did Joe Biden win 2020 fairly or not? This is pretty damning proof that you are Vigrim @Vigero

So you're a liar then? Glad we reestablished that.

Why do you even bother lying when:

A. You have nothing to defend yourself with
B. You know you're gonna called out on it.

It's just such a stupid mindset. I guess BunkerBoy is one of those obsessive people who thinks if makes shit up on the fly and spams it over and over and over like a child that somebody will start believing him.

Now beat it, scamp.

Vigero posted...

So you're a liar then? Glad we reestablished that.

Why do you even bother lying when:

A. You have nothing to defend yourself with
B. You know you're gonna called out on it.

It's just such a stupid mindset. I guess BunkerBoy is one of those obsessive people who thinks if makes shit up on the fly and spams it over and over and over like a child that somebody will start believing him.

Now beat it, scamp.

@Vigero still refusing to answer whether Biden won. Further proving he's Vigrim

DnDer posted...

That's not true at all.

The article below doesn't use it as an example, but I think one of the most notorious times star gerrymandering impacted state was when Wisconsin Democrats won 60% of the vote and ended up with 30% of the representation because Republicans engineered it that way.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-redistricting-affects-the-battle-for-state-legislatures/

Those arent statewide, theyre districted like the House is. Gerrymandering literally cannot affect any election that doesnt take districts into account, namely statewide elections like Senate, presidential, governor.

BunkerBoy posted...

@Vigero still refusing to answer whether Biden won. Further proving he's Vigrim

Pathological liar seems more accurate to describe you.

Vigero posted...

Pathological liar seems more accurate to describe you.

That's cool and all, but can you say "Joe Biden fairly won the 2020 election" yet?

Vigero posted...

Pathological liar seems more accurate to describe you.

@Vigero Can you answer the question Vigrim?

Can you admit Joe Biden won 2020 fairly? It's very suspicious that you are unwilling to say something so objectively true

Yeah, the longer Vigero goes without answer the question of whether or not Biden fairly won the 2020 election is pretty sus, as they say.

Heineken14 posted...

Yeah, the longer Vigero goes without answer the question of whether or not Biden fairly won the 2020 election is pretty sus, as they say.

really does show the cult mindset they have

he cant even say it as a lie (its not a lie but in his mind it would be)

he flat out can not say that biden won fairly

PraetorXyn posted...

Those arent statewide, theyre districted like the House is. Gerrymandering literally cannot affect any election that doesnt take districts into account, namely statewide elections like Senate, presidential, governor.

Are we talking past each other? Because I figured the makeup of a state legislature was "statewide?"

DnDer posted...

Are we talking past each other? Because I figured the makeup of a state legislature was "statewide?"

Its not. The article you linked mentions the districts for state house seats.

While I agree that she was not the best Candidate, she would not have lost if it were not for Russia and it's Election Interference.

She would have won if Republicans didn't do their usual voter suppression and of course the gerrymandering and what not.

Either way, she would have been leagues better than Trump.

And In a fair election she would have won.

Vigrim is one of the many conservatives that've been ducking answering that question for years now. Out of the tens of accounts I've asked that question to, 3 accounts have given a clear "yes/no" response, for a total of 2 points total (1 full answer, two half answers).

Though actually I have to update the score now that Angybeef said "No". So I guess it's 2.5, it only took an extra year of asking to get a clear answer to a simple Y/N question 5 year olds are capable of answering.

BunkerBoy posted...

@Vigero Can you answer the question Vigrim?

Can you admit Joe Biden won 2020 fairly? It's very suspicious that you are unwilling to say something so objectively true

BunkerBoy is an alt of longtime troll account Bunker_of_Storms who threw a giant rage fit on CE several years back about the election and did an account suicide that involved posting racial slurs.

See, I can make up stuff on the fly with no evidence whatsoever supporting it like you can do. See how little effort it takes?

Vigero posted...

BunkerBoy is an alt of longtime troll account Bunker_of_Storms who threw a giant rage fit on CE several years back about the election and did an account suicide that involved posting racial slurs.

See, I can make up stuff on the fly with no evidence whatsoever supporting it like you can do. See how little effort it takes?

That's cool and all, but can you say "Joe Biden fairly won the 2020 election" yet?

Vigero posted...

BunkerBoy is an alt of longtime troll account Bunker_of_Storms who threw a giant rage fit on CE several years back about the election and did an account suicide that involved posting racial slurs.

See, I can make up stuff on the fly with no evidence whatsoever supporting it like you can do. See how little effort it takes?

Vigrim, if you're going to blatantly make stuff up, at least use a real account

A. Bunker_of_Storms is not a gamefaqs account
B. Bunker_of_Storms is too many characters to be an account

I know you aren't the brightest bulb, but this is low effort, even for you @Vigero

Also, can you admit Biden won 2020?

PraetorXyn posted...

Gerrymandering has no impact whatsoever on statewide elections.

I'm sorry, but did you actually type this with a straight face?

Being part of a gerrymandered district/state who gets fucked over as a result absolutely depresses enthusiasm for voting as a whole from those who would vote for the disenfranchised party.

I live in TX and absolutely the gerrymandering that happens here to suppress Democratic turnout has over time caused people to fully disengage from voting from statewide elections because they are downtrodden and forlorn over the whole process.

I for one am very interested in knowing why Vigero has spent over a year ducking everyone on answering whether or not he thinks Joe Biden fairly won the 2020 election.

KajeI posted...

That's cool and all, but can you say "Joe Biden fairly won the 2020 election" yet?

It's certainly not a good look and not making it seem like he's not Vigrim when he keeps ducking the question others are asking. It's a pretty simple one too.

That's cool and extremely obvious bait and all, but I'm gonna keep asking Bunker to back up his claim with hard evidence of me being this guy.

I know full well I'm not going to ever actually receive it, but it's funny watching him continuoslyBunkerBoy posted...

Vigrim, if you're going to blatantly make stuff up, at least use a real account

A. Bunker_of_Storms is not a gamefaqs account
B. Bunker_of_Storms is too many characters to be an account

I know you aren't the brightest bulb, but this is low effort, even for you @Vigero

Also, can you admit Biden won 2020?

woosh

Why can't Vigrim admit that Joe Biden won 2020 fairly? @Vigero

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bb4c827d.jpg

Heineken14 posted...

It's certainly not a good look and not making it seem like he's not Vigrim when he keeps ducking the question others are asking. It's a pretty simple one too.

Because it's very obvious and very dumb bait?

Vigero posted...

Because it's very obvious and very dumb bait?

So.... is that a yes or no?

Kradek posted...

I'm sorry, but did you actually type this with a straight face?

Being part of a gerrymandered district/state who gets fucked over as a result absolutely depresses enthusiasm for voting as a whole from those who would vote for the disenfranchised party.

I live in TX and absolutely the gerrymandering that happens here to suppress Democratic turnout has over time caused people to fully disengage from voting from statewide elections because they are downtrodden and forlorn over the whole process.

Thats fair, but that is not the gerrymandering in the election causing that in and of itself, its more human psychology. My point is in the actual election, gerrymandering didnt take one vote from Hillary because thats simply not how presidential elections work.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7b8bf9bc.jpg

Vigero posted...

Because it's very obvious and very dumb bait?

its only bait if you dont think biden won which he factually did

HOON posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bb4c827d.jpg

The Bee tries so hard to be the Onion and fails constantly. Conservative humor is usually an oxymoron

Vigero posted...

That's cool and extremely obvious bait and all

Why would the question "do you think Joe Biden fairly won the 2020 election" be bait? It's a simple Yes/No anyone can answer clearly instead of spending more than a year talking around it, as proven by the many people on this site that have answered. Here, watch.

I think Joe Biden fairly won the 2020 election.

Do you think Joe Biden fairly won the 2020 election Vigero? Yes or No?

Cool now back up the Vigrim claim.

Vigero posted...

Cool now back up the Vigrim claim.

Bunker is the one who said you're Vigrim. You're not really doing yourself any favors making people think you aren't when you just won't say you think Biden won the 2020 fairly.

Vigero posted...

Cool now back up the Vigrim claim.

I've never claimed you were Vigrim. Not here, nor in that other topic you linked where you tried to use that to duck the question. If you disagree you're welcome to link where I have.

I am asking you a simple question. Do you Joe Biden fairly won the 2020 election?

261 is dead btw. Nobody cares about all the 261 brand gimmick posting that you're trying to do. So let it go.

Vigero posted...

261 is dead btw. Nobody cares about all the 261 brand gimmick posting that you're trying to do. So let it go.

That's cool and all, but do you think Joe Biden fairly won the 2020 election?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/706be7fd.jpg

This reaction was enough for any mildly educated person to determine shes an out of touch dumbass.

Vigero posted...

261 is dead btw. Nobody cares about all the 261 brand gimmick posting that you're trying to do. So let it go.

Vigrim running away again?

Why can't you admit that Joe Biden won 2020?

BunkerBoy posted...

Vigrim running away again?

Why can't you admit that Joe Biden won 2020?

Is this Vigrim person in the room with us now, sir?

Vigero posted...

Is this Vigrim person in the room with us now, sir?

Maybe you can tell us after you tell us whether or not you think Joe Biden fairly won the 2020 election.

Vigero posted...

261 is dead btw. Nobody cares about all the 261 brand gimmick posting that you're trying to do. So let it go.

Yeah, the fact you keep ignoring answering whether Biden fairly won the 2020 election and trying to bring up irrelevant shit like 261 is pretty good indicator that you actually ARE Vigrim.

Come on buddy, just say it. You know it's true deep down.

ironman2009 posted...

Cone on buddy, just say it. You know it's true deep down.

Here let me ask you.

Do you think Joe Biden fairly won the 2020 election ironman2009? Yes or No.

ironman2009 posted...

Cone on buddy, just say it. You know it's true deep down.

Yeah. How is it a "bait" question? That's like saying "Is the Earth flat or not?" is a "bait" question. It's pretty suspect that someone can't very easily go "Of course it's not flat, what a silly question."

KajeI posted...

Do you think Joe Biden fairly won the 2020 election ironman2009? Yes or No.

I know you didn't ask me, but I'm going to stick my head out here and put down the controversial opinion that yes, Biden DID in fact fairly win the 2020 election.