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coolcono
06/01/24 11:01:22 PM
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I feel like stories are no longer be told. Everything is so open world and do whatever you want, that narratives have taken back seat.

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bnui_ransder
06/01/24 11:02:31 PM
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Devs are worried about making things take long for "player retention and engagement" and how to slip in DLC or micro transactions and forget that we do that when you make a good game

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HighSeraph
06/01/24 11:02:51 PM
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Overinflated budgets and sales expectations

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PowerMan5000000
06/01/24 11:03:10 PM
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Too much desperation for profit instead of passion.

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metralo
06/01/24 11:04:14 PM
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I don't think it is declining

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PMarth2002
06/01/24 11:19:31 PM
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metralo posted...
I don't think it is declining


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SpawnShadow
06/01/24 11:31:17 PM
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Consumers, by and large, have increasingly less time and money to spend on luxuries under late-stage capitalism, while publishers are demanding that their customers increasingly spend more of both on their games. The modern gaming industry is mostly built around a fundamentally unsustainable business model of squeezing their customers out of cash through $70+ games, DLC, and microtransactions, and I'll bet dollars to donuts that "AAA" gaming will outright collapse as a result within about a decade.
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Scorsese2002
06/01/24 11:32:49 PM
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Stupid live service games

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BuzzKilljoy
06/01/24 11:33:15 PM
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Games are too expensive, older people are aging out and don't have time and it seems to me like younger kids would just as soon pay to watch somebody else play than do it themselves.

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Philip027
06/01/24 11:36:14 PM
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PowerMan5000000 posted...
Too much desperation for profit instead of passion.

This.

This pretty much just applies to the "AAA" gaming scene though. Indies are still doing fine.
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R_Jackal
06/01/24 11:43:13 PM
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Games are too expensive, they don't know how to market to the younger gen/overcome the mobile market.

Devs and Pubs in the AAA market are basically trying to Michael Bay their way through game dev with pure graphics and flash.

To be honest though, gaming isn't declining, it's just live service and AAA games declining. Live service games for some reason can't figure out how to get a game business model that has worked since damn near the infancy of PC gaming to work because they want to fuck with it constantly because Fortnite had success. AAA games can't figure out how reigning in budget can be done or why games lack focus and are a fucking mess when they throw a rotating door of thousands of people at them.

Indie scene is literally exactly the same as it has always been though, with some ridiculous hits and more games than you can possibly imagine, but it's way easier to find them now which is a great step forward.
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FL81
06/02/24 12:04:40 AM
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entirely microtransactions and gacha

in short, gamers aren't entitled enough, they will sit back and eat whatever shit is put on their plate

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LonelyStoner
06/02/24 12:06:14 AM
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It isnt declining. Corporate greed is just more noticeable now.

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BDSMKane
06/02/24 12:17:36 AM
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FL81 posted...
in short, gamers aren't entitled enough, they will sit back and eat whatever is put on their plate
Entitled is honestly the wrong word for it. Were consumers, and the success or decline of particular products and developers rests solely on our decisions. Most gamers are, as you describe, too complacent and willing to eat whatever is served. The moment to stop this status quo was years ago, as the entire industry, culture, and media has adapted to this standard now and its incredibly unlikely well ever return to a point where the principled minority have any sway in the direction of gaming.

To put it another way 90% of players can be absolute leeches in a F2P live service game, because the whales spend enough to keep it profitable. Its hard to have any ground to stand on when youre complaining about a game youre playing for free, and the entire history and decay of inspired development needs to be explained for that position to even make sense. Most consumers, as in any industry, dont have enough time or care to give; they just want to relax and forget the world for a little bit.

So gaming may be at a pretty low point overall, but the barrier for minimum entry has been removed. The only people who really notice, or care, are the hardcore veterans who remember truly unique and astonishing games. Everyone else is happy or content with the current state of affairs, and so we will continue with this trend.

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Hospy
06/02/24 12:18:10 AM
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I don't think it's "declining" but I think I am no longer the target audience for most of the stuff coming out nowadays.
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FL81
06/02/24 12:23:06 AM
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BDSMKane posted...
The moment to stop this status quo was years ago, as the entire industry, culture, and media has adapted to this standard now and its incredibly unlikely well ever return to a point where the principled minority have any sway in the direction of gaming.

To put it another way 90% of players can be absolute leeches in a F2P live service game, because the whales spend enough to keep it profitable. Its hard to have any ground to stand on when youre complaining about a game youre playing for free, and the entire history and decay of inspired development needs to be explained for that position to even make sense. Most consumers, as in any industry, dont have enough time or care to give; they just want to relax and forget the world for a little bit.
That is true

but perhaps the solution isn't in trying to "stop" the status quo, or bring down "big gaming", but rather put the effort into supporting smaller projects and indie games

The "hardcore veterans" can still exist in a niche; in fact the indie scene is stronger than ever right now

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Srk700
06/02/24 12:24:44 AM
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I wouldn't say it's declining, as there are still a good share of great games out there. It's just the companies that were just about always shitty (EA, Activision, Ubisoft, etc.) have been even more brazen with their greedy tactics than they were before.
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BDSMKane
06/02/24 12:27:59 AM
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FL81 posted...
That is true

but perhaps the solution isn't in trying to "stop" the status quo, or bring down "big gaming", but rather put the effort into supporting smaller projects and indie games

The "hardcore veterans" can still exist in a niche; in fact the indie scene is stronger than ever right now
Fair point, and I would agree.

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FL81
06/02/24 12:28:14 AM
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Okay. I have confirmed that it is declining.

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creativerealms
06/02/24 12:28:20 AM
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It's not. The problem with mainly with with greedy big name publishers.

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sabin017
06/02/24 12:32:03 AM
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Nothing looks exciting anymore.

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LonelyStoner
06/02/24 12:33:06 AM
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sabin017 posted...
Nothing looks exciting anymore.
The upcoming Wolverine game looks really cool

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YellowSUV
06/02/24 12:34:45 AM
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I totally disagree. There is a lot more crap but there is also a lot more good. Gaming is simply so much much larger than it was decades ago. Its now probably the biggest art form and type of entertainment for the world. Compare that to 20-30ish years ago when it was a fairly niche thing.

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RchHomieQuanChi
06/02/24 12:35:54 AM
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Capitalism, essentially

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MrAntisocial
06/02/24 12:39:03 AM
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sabin017 posted...
Nothing looks exciting anymore.

Kind of this. Mainstream games have kind of lost imagination. They go with safe ideas. There are plenty of fun indie genres, but those can be difficult to find.

Other than that it's hard to find time to even play games with work and other responsibilities

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Nukazie
06/02/24 12:40:54 AM
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fromsoft is like one of the few that's keeping it alive

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electricbugs2
06/02/24 12:41:34 AM
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It isn't.

Some of the shitty AAA companies have fucked themselves raw (EA, Activison, Ubisoft etc), but the indie game scene is banging and slapping and you get shit like Elden Ring from the bigger studios.

Gaming "declining" is nonsense.

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KajeI
06/02/24 1:03:54 AM
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electricbugs2 posted...
It isn't.

Some of the shitty AAA companies have fucked themselves raw (EA, Activison, Ubisoft etc), but the indie game scene is banging and slapping and you get shit like Elden Ring from the bigger studios.

Gaming "declining" is nonsense.


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008Zulu
06/02/24 1:08:55 AM
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Triple A games being released half-finished.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/02/24 1:10:00 AM
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Capitalism

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