Board 8 > Rate the Ace Attorney character: Franziska von Karma

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Bitto
06/08/24 8:26:53 PM
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Rules:

  1. Rate each character on a scale from 1 to 10 with 1 being the lowest and 10 being the highest. Anything above 10 gets rounded down to a 10, and anything below a 1 gets rounded up to a 1.
  2. Anything beyond one decimal point will be rounded accordingly: .04 and below will be rounded down, .05 and up will be rounded up.
  3. You may grade on any criteria you like.
  4. Consider the character's appearances throughout the entire Ace Attorney series.
  5. You can rate characters from previous topics if you miss a topic.
  6. On a day with multiple characters, clearly label which rating applies to which characters.
  7. On a day with multiple characters, you may skip a character to rate.
  8. Pretty much every character from Ace Attorney will be rated. The schedule will go in chronological game order in the West (with AAI2 being right after AAI just for consistency). When a character debuts and gets a major speaking role, they will show up (so Trucy appearing for a moment in 4-1 doesn't count as a 4-1 character). Major characters get their own day and minor characters are all ranked at once. All extremely minor characters (background, animals, mascots, and jury) will be rated on the final day.
  9. The "roles" listed are: Defense, Rival, Assistant, Detective, Judge, Victim, Defendant, Culprit, Witness, Background, Animal, Mascot, and Jury. Sorry, I'm not pointing out accomplices.


Spreadsheet w/ Full Previous Results and Schedule: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uNA5IlyThvd7dEY5dH4BQ3xLdghDnqKm0fsekmGnO7Y/edit?usp=sharing
Results and Discussion: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80783400

Previous Day's Results:

Pearl Fey - 8.0 (15 votes)

Pearl gets into the overall top 10 and even scores higher than one of her cousins, Mia. Several thought she was written well, especially for a child character.

Character(s):

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Name: Franziska von Karma
Game Appearances: JFA, T&T, AAI, AAI2
Roles: Rival, Assistant
Profile (Debut): [2-2] Became a prosecutor in Germany at age 13. A prodigy who has never known defeat.
Profile (Conclusion) [E2-5] Daughter of Manfred von Karma. Working with Interpol.

My Rating: 7.7

Franziska has a few strange gimmicks, especially since Edgeworth is fairly gimmick-less. I think the whip and foolishly foolish fools are fine, but she's really best when she throws those gimmicks away and is just herself. She's...alright with Phoenix and I think there's potential with her and Maya, considering they're the same age. But it's really her relationship with Edgeworth that are her best moments. I kinda wish they did more with her...sorta in the Investigation games, but those games are so bloated already.

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Underleveled
06/08/24 8:28:25 PM
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9.5

Another really great character introduced in the second game. I feel like this one will have mixed responses, with a lot of people finding her irritating, but she's in my top 10.

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Leonhart4
06/08/24 8:31:29 PM
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6/10

I feel like the games want me to take Franziska seriously as a prosecutor, but aside from the first day of 2-2, I just can't. This is really driven home in 3-5 where Edgeworth spends the entire day just wrecking her.

She can be funny, but she basically has one gimmick. I think she has some understated development, but it's a little too understated because it never really changes her behavior.

Not gonna lie she's kinda adorbs in E1-4 though

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Paratroopa1
06/08/24 8:32:24 PM
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10/10

I've been forgetting to vote in these and I need to remember (I should go back and give ratings for some days I missed). Anyway I love Franziska fuck you lol

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ZeroSignal
06/08/24 8:43:53 PM
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6.5

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skulltrumpets
06/08/24 8:49:48 PM
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Franziska: 9.5
Pearl: 8

I want to give Franziska a 10 but I'm trying to be as sparing as possible with them lmao and to be fair, she is underutilized, so I guess it is only fitting. If I had to nitpick, the whipping gimmick does hinder the pacing in a few moments, but besides that I have no issues with her quirks.

I adore how unapologetic she is and how brazen. Her relationship with Edgeworth is pretty great. My girlfriend has pointed out a multiple times the resemblance between their behaviour and her relationship with her own brothers, so that's neat! It really feels authentic to how siblings treat each other. I love her working with Phoenix in 3-5 too. Their banter is such a little treat lmao... Plus there's details like how hurt she seems by Pearly being mad at her, or her working tirelessly to break the locks and doing all that last minute research on for the case. Oh this explains why I like that aspect of Nahyuta's character.

And my GOD her ending in 2-4 is so good. Finally breaking down at the end before Edgeworth and we get to see that crying sprite ... All after she came in clutch during the trial. Fighting the pain she's going through just to deliver the evidence last minute. Yeah I'm gonna stop before I keep rambling.

O right. Forgot to rate Pearly yesterday. She's a good example of the right way to make a child character. I don't have strong feelings towards her, but I like the levity she provides and how she kind of just partially exists to further the worldbuilding of the Kurain stuff .... but also she's still fully realised as a character?
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Bane_Of_Despair
06/08/24 8:50:07 PM
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9/10

I also forget to vote in these but I think she's super fun, I imagine she'll rub some people the wrong way but I dig it

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06/08/24 10:08:35 PM
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6

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BlueCrystalTear
06/08/24 10:44:57 PM
#9:


7.5

Wildly variant based on each case. Sometimes she's fantastic, other times she's a foolishly foolish fool who dreams of foolish things...

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Johnbobb
06/08/24 11:08:13 PM
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10

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KamikazePotato
06/08/24 11:40:48 PM
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4.5

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Janus5k
06/09/24 1:24:40 AM
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7/10

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Lopen
06/09/24 1:31:15 AM
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7/10

She is completely ineffective as a prosecutor and a joke at it which I don't like. But she gets some props for being completely believable as Manfred's daughter.

What makes her much better than Manfred is she's not chiefly used as a prosecutor and she's actually an enjoyable character when used in other roles.

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WarThaNemesis2
06/09/24 1:40:28 AM
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10/10.

My favorite prosecutor. You spend all of Justice For All going 'This whip-wielding woman is completely nuts!' with her tactics in the courtroom and then at the end it turns out that...yeah, she actually is ill.

She's fantastic as support in 3-5, as this incredibly helpful but also aggressively hostile partner. Wish she handed the card over to Phoenix though.

Her main issue is that since then she's been stuck in the Edgeworth games which were aggressively bad for basically every returner aside from Edgeworth himself, but it's not enough to cost how fantastic she was in the OG trilogy.

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Paratroopa1
06/09/24 1:54:26 AM
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Random Franziska thing I like that I was just thinking about: I like that she gets shot in the same shoulder as her father, but unlike her father, she gets the bullet removed. Normally these games aren't super subtle about themes, but they never mention a word about this one in the script, it's an entirely unstated characterization.
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KamikazePotato
06/09/24 1:57:35 AM
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I envy you people who like Franziska. She was a big reason why 2-2 and 2-3 were such drags. Better in 2-4 and 3-5...which kinda just proves she's only decent when not a focus character.

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Leonhart4
06/09/24 5:31:59 AM
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Paratroopa1 posted...
Random Franziska thing I like that I was just thinking about: I like that she gets shot in the same shoulder as her father, but unlike her father, she gets the bullet removed. Normally these games aren't super subtle about themes, but they never mention a word about this one in the script, it's an entirely unstated characterization.

Well, the circumstances are totally different. She was shot in public and Edgeworth forced her to go to the hospital rather than attempt to go to court. I think the only parallel you're meant to draw there is that she got shot in the shoulder like her father did.

Well, that, and the bullet is one of the final pieces of evidence like with Manfred, but it's a red herring with Franziska.

...Huh, I wonder if they were trying to fool the player into picking the bullet because of 1-4. Never even occurred to me until now.

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malyg
06/09/24 5:44:56 AM
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7/10
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MrSmartGuy
06/09/24 5:57:01 AM
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6/10

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Strife2
06/09/24 10:06:05 AM
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Pearl: 9
Franziska: 7.5

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swirIdude
06/09/24 10:46:19 AM
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6

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Lopen
06/09/24 10:54:36 AM
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Leonhart4 posted...
I think the only parallel you're meant to draw there is that she got shot in the shoulder like her father did.

Yeah

I think that's a case of analysis vs overanalysis

It's still a neat parallel though even if that's all it is.

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colliding
06/09/24 12:49:22 PM
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7/10

definitely some squandered potential here

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MacArrowny
06/09/24 1:04:25 PM
#25:


8

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Bitto
06/09/24 3:23:03 PM
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Mr. Phoenix Wright

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greengravy294
06/09/24 5:16:09 PM
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6

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