Current Events > Why does JD Vance hate childless people so much?

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This is just weird.

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He's an idiot.

It's an extremely awkward and idiotic attempt to attack Harris because she doesn't have any children that are biologically her own and is pretty moronically doubling down on it.

Because Kamala Harris doesn't have kids and they've decided that that'll be one of their attack angles.

Because he's a weirdo psycho

Because Christian fundies think that a woman's sole purpose in life is to pop out babies and be a subservient housewife.

We was bullied by childless kids as a child

TomClark posted...

Because Kamala Harris doesn't have kids and they've decided that that'll be one of their attack angles.

Pretty much this.

Combined with the idea they have in their head that Republicans are a bunch of God fearing country bumpkins and all they do is reproduce, compared to how many singles and couples that decide not to have children tend to be Liberals.

Basically trying to create an "Us vs Them" narrative.

The statement being made is that if you dont have children you have no reason to care about the future of the country. Reality is its anyones sole business whether they want to have a traditional family or not and he and anyone else who has a problem with that can fuck pff.

Curious how the incels are twisting theirs elves in a knot to defend this

he strikes me as the kind of person who think that women have no value if they're not constantnly pregnant and in the kitchen

Probably because he hates and resents his own wife and children.

Republicans hate people who are happily married

luigi33 posted...

Curious how the incels are twisting theirs elves in a knot to defend this

It's not incels, incels can't have kids because they don't have sex, Vance policies are literally anti-incel.

And naturally, look who cant help but jump in to carry water for incels. Its like clockwork.

He thinks it will resonate with the parts of the base that consist of religious extremists and men who blame women for their failure.

Does he really believe it? Who knows and who cares? Vance is a spineless pick me type who will do and say whatever he thinks will please his masters.

Diceheist posted...

It's not incels, incels can't have kids cuz no sex, Vance policies are literally anti-incel.

In Vance's view, it is the women who choose not to breed who are denying men sex

So his views very much resonate with incels.

They all seem to have a breeder fetish in general, but probably fueled by white replacement bullshit at the moment.

I care about the future of this country because I have a good 30-50 years left in this country....

its also a dog whistle attack against LGBTQ+ people

Lack of self-esteem and/or confidence.

Not the boorish "confidence" of someone who freely says and does stupid shit, mind you, but the confidence of being comfortable with who you are and your place in the world.

Diceheist posted...

I don't recall him specifying anyone to blame. As far as I know he holds all childless people similarly accountable.

He specifically called out "childless cat ladies" and he's a Republican, you don't need him to specify to know he's blaming women.

What a fuckin' shocker that you're in here deflecting for him.

Can you just save us all the time and go full mask off? You're going to eventually, might as well rip the band aid off.

luigi33 posted...

Curious how the incels are twisting theirs elves in a knot to defend this

The irony is lost on them.

Because he's a stupid asshole.

The evangelical Right is obsessed with the traditional nuclear family being the only model of any value in society, and Vance and Trump are desperately appealing to them. It is a completely absurd notion. My wife and I are Christians with two kids, and the idea that any part of that is the life that does and should work for everyone is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous: The thought that if you don't have kids, you can't possibly care about the future of the country. How dumb is that? I think a few of my brain cells died while I typed.

I actually don't think Vance believes any of it. He doesn't come from a stable nuclear family, and he certainly was spewing his opinions about the country and voting well before his two year old daughter was born. The only principle Vance actually holds is the one most prevalent in the GOP is a whole: "What can I say that will get people to vote for me so I get power?". This is all to make sure those far right Christians go to the polls, and has nothing to do with actual beliefs about anything. He would turn on a dime if he thought saying something else would get him elected.

It is also absurd as a political strategy. The people who he and Trump are using this line to appeal to are already voting for him, and it turns every normal person off. Beyond their thoughts on family life being creepy and weird, it is also stupid politically.

-Crissaegrim- posted...

The irony is lost on them.

We also want them to stop twisting elves.

Diceheist posted...

I don't recall him specifying anyone to blame. As far as I know he holds all childless people similarly accountable.

You heard him mentioning incels when he was ranting about 'childless cat ladies', then?

At least you've dropped the gimmick now.

Murphiroth posted...

He specifically called out "childless cat ladies"

That was on a different tangent. The interview where he mocked childless older women and the interviews where he promoted anti-childless adult legal policies where seperate. In the latter set he used gender neutral langauge.

This is embarrassing

Diceheist posted...

That was on a different tangent. The interview where he mocked childless older women and the interviews where he promoted anti-childless adult legal policies where seperate. In the latter set he used gender neutral langauge.

Holy deflection Batman!

You're a joke lmao.

Didn't even try to acknowledge that as a Republican, Vance is whining about women by default.

There's a seen in Fight Club where Edward Norton is super dupes angry amd frustrated. He narrates the line "I felt like putting a bullet between the eyes of every Panda that wouldn't screw to save its species"

That's how JD Vance feels irl about his inflamed sense of rejection

Can you report people for trolling when they have to tie themselves so hard in knots that they risk suffocating to try and make their arguments have any semblance of logic?

Murphiroth posted...

Didn't even try to acknowledge that as a Republican, Vance is whining about women by default.

I'm sure he is but what I'm saying is that some of his statements can also be taken as critical of men as well.

I'm a dude and I certainly don't like Vance proposing higher taxes and less voting influence for me over matters I can't control.

Because they don't think step children exist

Diceheist posted...

I'm sure he is but what I'm saying is that some of his statements can also be taken as critical of men as well.

I'm a dude and I certainly don't like Vance proposing higher taxes and less voting influence for me over matters I can't control.

It may well be he wants you to take control and build yourself a proper family by force if you have to.

The real reason is that it's because Kamala doesn't have any children. If she had kids you wouldn't hear shit.

But because they have absolutely NOTHING on her, they're going with this dumb shit.

Because unlike normal folks, those of his ilk need brainwashed youngsters to fall in line with their oppressive doctrines.

Less families means less followers.

JD vance was selected as a gesture to the weird sillicon valley internet conservative movement, and most everything he says are signals to that base. Currently they are on a pronatalism thing where they believe they can outbreed demographic shifts. I am sure he doesn't actually give a shit about childless people or whatever (in fact I am sure he doesn't actually give a shit about anything except making money), he was just attempting to signal to that base for perfunctory brownie points

Unfortunately, that brand of conservatism is way less popular than Republicans seem to think it is, and he also did it in a really lame embarrassing way

In a bizarre way people like JD Vance and Elon Musk are collectivists. They view people who have children as contributing to the hive's numbers while single people don't have enough value as individuals.

I've been politically active since high school.

I know multiple people who have openly and proudly admitted that having children made them think about the future and society for the first time ever.

The "you care with kids" shit is infuriating. I wish Vance and everyone like him suffering and oblivion.

ultimate_reaver posted...

JD vance was selected as a gesture to the weird sillicon valley internet conservative movement, and most everything he says are signals to that base. Currently they are on a pronatalism thing where they believe they can outbreed demographic shifts. I am sure he doesn't actually give a shit about childless people or whatever (in fact I am sure he doesn't actually give a shit about anything except making money), he was just attempting to signal to that base for perfunctory brownie points

It's not so much a base as a top layer of people like Thiel and Musk. There's very few people who actually give a shit about these weirdo beliefs, but they have deep pockets.

ultimate_reaver posted...

JD vance was selected as a gesture to the weird sillicon valley internet conservative movement, and most everything he says are signals to that base. Currently they are on a pronatalism thing where they believe they can outbreed demographic shifts. I am sure he doesn't actually give a shit about childless people or whatever (in fact I am sure he doesn't actually give a shit about anything except making money), he was just attempting to signal to that base for perfunctory brownie points

Unfortunately, that brand of conservatism is way less popular than Republicans seem to think it is, and he also did it in a really lame embarrassing way

Yeah, Some More News had a whole bit on this too. I'll timestamp link it below but the gist of it is that when the ultra rich's tendency to devolve into selfish anti-social weirdos is combined with right wing conspiracy ideology like "great replacement" and declining birthrates, you get this unholy union of wealthy assholes who think it's their mission to outbreed the rest of the planet.

https://youtu.be/IP2EKTCngiM?t=2466

Jiek_Fafn posted...

There's a seen in Fight Club where Edward Norton is super dupes angry amd frustrated. He narrates the line "I felt like putting a bullet between the eyes of every Panda that wouldn't screw to save its species"

That's how JD Vance feels irl about his inflamed sense of rejection

i mean....Pandas are kinda in the verge of extinct, yet humans aren't.

Some good answers, but I'm going with the Great Replacement Theory. "More babies" is a dogwhistle to that crowd.

It's why Boebert bragged about being a grandmother at 36.

Some are even more explicit about it:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/372a83ac.jpg

brestugo posted...

Some good answers, but I'm going with the Great Replacement Theory. "More babies" is a dogwhistle to that crowd.

It's why Boebert bragged about being a grandmother at 36.

Some are even more explicit about it:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/372a83ac.jpg

Which is goofy considering white people arent the only ones having abortions. You would think the Neo Nazis would be fine with PoC getting abortions but their idiot brains not thinking that.

Antifar posted...

It's not so much a base as a top layer of people like Thiel and Musk. There's very few people who actually give a shit about these weirdo beliefs, but they have deep pockets.

That is the main problem yes, but people like Mush and Thiel have been banking on a base of people that care about weird niche stuff like this since the midterms, which is part of the reason republicans did so poorly. It's a continual failing on their part to translate twitter likes to votes, but they have not stopped because they are freaks in a freak bubble

this is really going to cost the Republicans the incel vote