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Guide 08/02/24 1:07:28 AM #51:	Monopoman posted... . I also will point out already the prison system usually comes down hard on people like this, And usually people don't get set on fire for being particularly audacious rapists. But here we are. The illusion of sticking to the law unfailingly is perhaps important for society, but it is an illusion. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:981550962] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Monopoman posted... </cite><quote>. I also will point out already the prison system usually comes down hard on people like this,</quote>And usually people don't get set on fire for being particularly audacious rapists. But here we are.The illusion of sticking to the law unfailingly is perhaps important for society, but it is an illusion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiritSephiroth 08/02/24 1:07:29 AM #52:	She killed him in revenge of raping her daughter then outright provoking her, using that rape to mentally and psychologically torture her. She should have been sent to a counsellor after that, not prison. --- https://imgur.com/a/LYNS7ow https://imgur.com/a/knf9AoW https://imgur.com/a/TIIdBJT https://imgur.com/a/RYkMp5I https://imgur.com/a/48AD2yM <cite>SpiritSephiroth posted [p:981550963] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>She killed him in revenge of raping her daughter then outright provoking her, using that rape to mentally and psychologically torture her.She should have been sent to a counsellor after that, not prison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Just_a_loser 08/02/24 1:10:16 AM #53:	I don't feel sympathy for the guy. But I do feel sympathy for everyone that had to witness it and and the restaurant who likely suffered from damages. Like thats just fucking horrific. She didn't just capture the guy and execute him. She literally found him in a restaurant and set him on fire in front of everyone. She traumatized everyone there and likely did property damage. This was not a crime in which the only victim was a rapist. --- Your face looks like I need a beer. <cite>Just_a_loser posted [p:981550982] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>I don't feel sympathy for the guy.But I do feel sympathy for everyone that had to witness it and and the restaurant who likely suffered from damages.Like thats just fucking horrific. She didn't just capture the guy and execute him. She literally found him in a restaurant and set him on fire in front of everyone. She traumatized everyone there and likely did property damage.This was not a crime in which the only victim was a rapist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjnelson 08/02/24 1:15:51 AM #54:	It's interesting seeing people discuss capital punishment as barbaric but then applaud citizens for executing criminals. Don't misunderstand. I'd have acted as the mom did. I'm also for capital punishment, though. --- I'm not here for friends. I'm here for the truth to the best of my knowledge of it, even if it's not what people want to hear. <cite>pjnelson posted [p:981551008] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>It's interesting seeing people discuss capital punishment as barbaric but then applaud citizens for executing criminals. Don't misunderstand. I'd have acted as the mom did. I'm also for capital punishment, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nirvanas_Nox 08/02/24 1:16:48 AM #55:	Garioshi posted... Last time I checked, murder is, in fact, illegal. So is fucking rape. She was 13. He deserved far worse then what happened. I feel absolutely no sympathy for a rapist pedophile. --- Kee Oth Rama Pancake <cite>Nirvanas_Nox posted [p:981551018] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Garioshi posted... </cite><quote>Last time I checked, murder is, in fact, illegal.</quote>So is fucking rape. She was 13. He deserved far worse then what happened. I feel absolutely no sympathy for a rapist pedophile. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Valigarmanda_ 08/02/24 1:48:18 AM #56:	I don't think the lady should've gotten so severe of a sentence, either way. A few years w/suspended --- aka TritochZERO <cite>_Valigarmanda_ posted [p:981551194] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>I don't think the lady should've gotten so severe of a sentence, either way. A few years w/suspended </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 08/02/24 1:49:19 AM #57:	pjnelson posted... It's interesting seeing people discuss capital punishment as barbaric but then applaud citizens for executing criminals. Don't misunderstand. I'd have acted as the mom did. I'm also for capital punishment, though. They have no principles, and the very second a revenge killing they don't agree with goes unpunished, they'll bitch about how fucked the system is. If someone gets shot robbing someone or breaking into a house, you'll see "death isn't the punishment for that", but nobody actually gives a fuck about that. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:981551203] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>pjnelson posted... </cite>It's interesting seeing people discuss capital punishment as barbaric but then applaud citizens for executing criminals. Don't misunderstand. I'd have acted as the mom did. I'm also for capital punishment, though.They have no principles, and the very second a revenge killing they don't agree with goes unpunished, they'll bitch about how fucked the system is. If someone gets shot robbing someone or breaking into a house, you'll see "death isn't the punishment for that", but nobody actually gives a fuck about that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 08/02/24 1:49:23 AM #58:	absolutebuffoon posted... No, that's how law is supposed to work. The phrase "justice is blind" refers to being impartial. Certainly you could make an argument this guy deserved it, but where is the line? Who decides who deserves what? A court of law with rules that aren't just about hurt feelings, that's what. It sounds to me like her reduced sentence was taking into account this guy was unrepentant and threatening future violence. It's perfectly fine to say "Fuck that guy, he was an asshole" but the law can't work that way. if 'justice was blind' we wouldnt have a jury system and the justice system wouldnt take into account aggravating and mitigating factors. the law shouldnt accomodate vigilante justice as a rule, juries and judges should just be able to take extraordinary cases into account when they occur. this happened in the case of the dad that killed his sons rapist in the 80's when the judge sentenced him to probation. prison sentences are ideally about rehabilitating people or locking up the people that are too dangerous for society. in this kind of instance the person doesnt need to be rehabilitated and there is no danger to society so there is no need for the person to be incarcerated 'just because'. Monopoman posted... Well as they say an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind, if you allow shit like this basically revenge killing would be more and more popular. The mother of this guy might want revenge and guess who she would go after etc. It also flies in the face of the legal system, it's basically like saying if someone kills your 10 year old kid and only gets 15 years in prison you take it upon yourself to murder them the second they step out. Sure this guy was brazen as fuck about it, but that is not relevant she should face punishment. I also will point out already the prison system usually comes down hard on people like this, if they find out you are a rapist or a pedo you typically have a FAR harder prison life. this kind of situation is exceedingly rare and the handful of times it has happened has not caused a rise in vigilante justice attempts. people shouldnt face punishment blindly because someone in a completely different scenario does for different reasons. if a person is not a danger to society and is not someone that will reoffend there is no point in locking them away. that accomplishes nothing and is counterintuitive to what we actually want to have happen --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:981551205] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>absolutebuffoon posted... </cite><quote>No, that's how law is supposed to work. The phrase "justice is blind" refers to being impartial. Certainly you could make an argument this guy deserved it, but where is the line? Who decides who deserves what?A court of law with rules that aren't just about hurt feelings, that's what.It sounds to me like her reduced sentence was taking into account this guy was unrepentant and threatening future violence. It's perfectly fine to say "Fuck that guy, he was an asshole" but the law can't work that way.</quote>if 'justice was blind' we wouldnt have a jury system and the justice system wouldnt take into account aggravating and mitigating factors.the law shouldnt accomodate vigilante justice as a rule, juries and judges should just be able to take extraordinary cases into account when they occur. this happened in the case of the dad that killed his sons rapist in the 80's when the judge sentenced him to probation.prison sentences are ideally about rehabilitating people or locking up the people that are too dangerous for society. in this kind of instance the person doesnt need to be rehabilitated and there is no danger to society so there is no need for the person to be incarcerated 'just because'.Monopoman posted... </cite><quote>Well as they say an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind, if you allow shit like this basically revenge killing would be more and more popular. The mother of this guy might want revenge and guess who she would go after etc.It also flies in the face of the legal system, it's basically like saying if someone kills your 10 year old kid and only gets 15 years in prison you take it upon yourself to murder them the second they step out. Sure this guy was brazen as fuck about it, but that is not relevant she should face punishment. I also will point out already the prison system usually comes down hard on people like this, if they find out you are a rapist or a pedo you typically have a FAR harder prison life.</quote>this kind of situation is exceedingly rare and the handful of times it has happened has not caused a rise in vigilante justice attempts. people shouldnt face punishment blindly because someone in a completely different scenario does for different reasons. if a person is not a danger to society and is not someone that will reoffend there is no point in locking them away. that accomplishes nothing and is counterintuitive to what we actually want to have happen </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Valigarmanda_ 08/02/24 1:50:35 AM #59:	Just_a_loser posted... snip This pretty much covers it IMO _Valigarmanda_ posted... I don't think the lady should've gotten so severe of a sentence, either way. A few years w/suspended --- aka TritochZERO <cite>_Valigarmanda_ posted [p:981551217] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Just_a_loser posted... </cite><quote>snip</quote>This pretty much covers it IMO _Valigarmanda_ posted... I don't think the lady should've gotten so severe of a sentence, either way. A few years w/suspended</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 08/02/24 1:54:48 AM #60:	pjnelson posted... It's interesting seeing people discuss capital punishment as barbaric but then applaud citizens for executing criminals. Don't misunderstand. I'd have acted as the mom did. I'm also for capital punishment, though. capital punishment is barbaric. saying you understand why something happened isnt the same thing as applauding it or advocating for it. ideally this kind of thing doesnt happen, but if it does it should be handled with nuance like criminal justice cases are supposed to be handled anyway. our justice system isnt some unyielding thing that prescribes absolute punishment for crimes in most cases. judges and juries have latitude in determining sentences to an extent and there are guidelines for different offenses. mitigating circumstances are supposed to be considered in sentencing for all crimes in which someone can receive prison time. --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:981551244] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>pjnelson posted... </cite><quote>It's interesting seeing people discuss capital punishment as barbaric but then applaud citizens for executing criminals. Don't misunderstand. I'd have acted as the mom did. I'm also for capital punishment, though.</quote>capital punishment is barbaric. saying you understand why something happened isnt the same thing as applauding it or advocating for it. ideally this kind of thing doesnt happen, but if it does it should be handled with nuance like criminal justice cases are supposed to be handled anyway. our justice system isnt some unyielding thing that prescribes absolute punishment for crimes in most cases. judges and juries have latitude in determining sentences to an extent and there are guidelines for different offenses. mitigating circumstances are supposed to be considered in sentencing for all crimes in which someone can receive prison time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 08/02/24 1:57:55 AM #61:	Just_a_loser posted... I don't feel sympathy for the guy. But I do feel sympathy for everyone that had to witness it and and the restaurant who likely suffered from damages. Like thats just fucking horrific. She didn't just capture the guy and execute him. She literally found him in a restaurant and set him on fire in front of everyone. She traumatized everyone there and likely did property damage. This was not a crime in which the only victim was a rapist. Okay, this is actually a decent point tbh --- And they say that a Trumble will save us... <cite>Trumble posted [p:981551264] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Just_a_loser posted... </cite><quote>I don't feel sympathy for the guy.But I do feel sympathy for everyone that had to witness it and and the restaurant who likely suffered from damages.Like thats just fucking horrific. She didn't just capture the guy and execute him. She literally found him in a restaurant and set him on fire in front of everyone. She traumatized everyone there and likely did property damage.This was not a crime in which the only victim was a rapist.</quote>Okay, this is actually a decent point tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kanaya413 08/02/24 2:03:23 AM #62:	Guide posted... Mother did nothing wrong. <cite>Kanaya413 posted [p:981551306] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite><quote>Mother did nothing wrong.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 08/02/24 2:06:28 AM #63:	Just_a_loser posted... I don't feel sympathy for the guy. But I do feel sympathy for everyone that had to witness it and and the restaurant who likely suffered from damages. Like thats just fucking horrific. She didn't just capture the guy and execute him. She literally found him in a restaurant and set him on fire in front of everyone. She traumatized everyone there and likely did property damage. This was not a crime in which the only victim was a rapist. this is a valid point and restitution for damages could have been part of her punishment instead of prison time --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:981551330] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Just_a_loser posted... </cite><quote>I don't feel sympathy for the guy.But I do feel sympathy for everyone that had to witness it and and the restaurant who likely suffered from damages.Like thats just fucking horrific. She didn't just capture the guy and execute him. She literally found him in a restaurant and set him on fire in front of everyone. She traumatized everyone there and likely did property damage.This was not a crime in which the only victim was a rapist.</quote>this is a valid point and restitution for damages could have been part of her punishment instead of prison time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivany2008 08/02/24 2:38:35 AM #64:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] God damn my minor dyslexia. I read that as Last House on the Prairie. Brings a whole new meaning to that awful show. <cite>Ivany2008 posted [p:981551472] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> God damn my minor dyslexia. I read that as Last House on the Prairie. Brings a whole new meaning to that awful show.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 08/02/24 2:52:56 AM #65:	Vigilante justice should not be allowed but I have no sympathy for a person that after all these years showed no remorse and no personal growth as to ask for forgivness but woudl rather just taunt one of the victims, what happened to them is the closest to deserved, Still killing people on your own terms not for self defense is out of the question and some sentences needed to be made but I'm gladf the mother will not spend much time in jail in respect to the crime. --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:981551544] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Vigilante justice should not be allowed but I have no sympathy for a person that after all these years showed no remorse and no personal growth as to ask for forgivness but woudl rather just taunt one of the victims, what happened to them is the closest to deserved, Still killing people on your own terms not for self defense is out of the question and some sentences needed to be made but I'm gladf the mother will not spend much time in jail in respect to the crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FolkenRawr 08/02/24 2:53:58 AM #66:	Ivany2008 posted... God damn my minor dyslexia. I read that as Last House on the Prairie. Brings a whole new meaning to that awful show. Little* House --- Cookin like a chef, I'm a 5 Star Michelin <cite>FolkenRawr posted [p:981551550] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Ivany2008 posted... </cite><quote>God damn my minor dyslexia. I read that as Last House on the Prairie. Brings a whole new meaning to that awful show.</quote>Little* House</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivany2008 08/02/24 2:55:33 AM #67:	FolkenRawr posted... Little* House .....And the joke goes over your head. Obviously I know its Little house on the prairie. I'm saying I briefly read it as Last House on the Prairie. <cite>Ivany2008 posted [p:981551560] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>FolkenRawr posted... </cite><quote>Little* House</quote>.....And the joke goes over your head. Obviously I know its Little house on the prairie. I'm saying I briefly read it as Last House on the Prairie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 08/02/24 4:43:53 AM #68:	andel posted... capital punishment is barbaric. saying you understand why something happened isnt the same thing as applauding it or advocating for it. ideally this kind of thing doesnt happen, but if it does it should be handled with nuance like criminal justice cases are supposed to be handled anyway. our justice system isnt some unyielding thing that prescribes absolute punishment for crimes in most cases. judges and juries have latitude in determining sentences to an extent and there are guidelines for different offenses. mitigating circumstances are supposed to be considered in sentencing for all crimes in which someone can receive prison time. It does look like your logic is simply being more supportive of vigilante justice over the actual justice system but at this point I'm not sure I can disagree. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:981552021] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite><quote>capital punishment is barbaric. saying you understand why something happened isnt the same thing as applauding it or advocating for it. ideally this kind of thing doesnt happen, but if it does it should be handled with nuance like criminal justice cases are supposed to be handled anyway. our justice system isnt some unyielding thing that prescribes absolute punishment for crimes in most cases. judges and juries have latitude in determining sentences to an extent and there are guidelines for different offenses. mitigating circumstances are supposed to be considered in sentencing for all crimes in which someone can receive prison time.</quote>It does look like your logic is simply being more supportive of vigilante justice over the actual justice system but at this point I'm not sure I can disagree.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
splodeymissile 08/02/24 6:11:12 AM #69:	Woman did nothing wrong. I'm against the state having the power to kill people, but that doesn't change the fact that some evil bastards ought to be removed from the world. --- One can not help but imagine Microsoft as being ran by a thousand Homer Simpsons. -Obturator <cite>splodeymissile posted [p:981552412] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Woman did nothing wrong. I'm against the state having the power to kill people, but that doesn't change the fact that some evil bastards ought to be removed from the world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vegy 08/02/24 6:16:21 AM #70:	I don't care what happens to rapists --- https://i.imgur.com/EoGWPMu.gif https://i.imgur.com/xpoEaeu.gif <cite>Vegy posted [p:981552441] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>I don't care what happens to rapists</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsuprised_Pika 08/02/24 7:41:39 AM #71:	"Cosme showed no remorse for his sickening crime and even taunted Mara as he asked "how her daughter was". Cosme then went into a local bar Mara's family frequented." Yeah no one gives a shit this guy died. He absolutely never should've been out still a danger. That said using fire and gas in a public place put others in danger as well. so she needs at least a little punishment. If she has no other indicators of violence or endangering others outiside this provoked crime of passion it can be a mild sentence vastly below what murder normally gets. --- I post clips of my cool, stupid and glitchy MH Sunbreak and Tears of the Kingdom gameplay here just for fun. https://youtube.com/user/linkachu1000 <cite>Unsuprised_Pika posted [p:981552862] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>"Cosme showed no remorse for his sickening crime and even taunted Mara as he asked "how her daughter was". Cosme then went into a local bar Mara's family frequented."Yeah no one gives a shit this guy died. He absolutely never should've been out still a danger.That said using fire and gas in a public place put others in danger as well. so she needs at least a little punishment. If she has no other indicators of violence or endangering others outiside this provoked crime of passion it can be a mild sentence vastly below what murder normally gets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 08/02/24 8:05:53 AM #72:	Unsuprised_Pika posted... "Cosme showed no remorse for his sickening crime and even taunted Mara as he asked "how her daughter was". Cosme then went into a local bar Mara's family frequented." Yeah no one gives a shit this guy died. He absolutely never should've been out still a danger. That said using fire and gas in a public place put others in danger as well. so she needs at least a little punishment. If she has no other indicators of violence or endangering others outiside this provoked crime of passion it can be a mild sentence vastly below what murder normally gets. So, what's weird is it wouldn't be considered a crime of passion because she left the scene to go buy the gasoline and returned. She'd have actually been better off in her sentencing if she had a gun on her and shot him in the actual moment. She'd probably only gotten like 3 years from that and then possibly bumped down further of actual time. --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:981553025] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Unsuprised_Pika posted... </cite><quote>"Cosme showed no remorse for his sickening crime and even taunted Mara as he asked "how her daughter was". Cosme then went into a local bar Mara's family frequented."Yeah no one gives a shit this guy died. He absolutely never should've been out still a danger.That said using fire and gas in a public place put others in danger as well. so she needs at least a little punishment. If she has no other indicators of violence or endangering others outiside this provoked crime of passion it can be a mild sentence vastly below what murder normally gets.</quote>So, what's weird is it wouldn't be considered a crime of passion because she left the scene to go buy the gasoline and returned. She'd have actually been better off in her sentencing if she had a gun on her and shot him in the actual moment. She'd probably only gotten like 3 years from that and then possibly bumped down further of actual time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Goldice 08/02/24 8:18:07 AM #73:	I feel zero sympathy for the guy and immense sympathy for the woman. But there's a reason extrajudicial killing and vigilante justice is frowned upon. I do not blame her for it, but at the same time from a societal standpoint you don't exactly want to make "burning a guy alive extrajudicially" legal. Plus starting a fire like that is pretty dangerous. It's a really tough situation. I also do think this case would have been a lot more muddied if she had a knife or a gun on her and stabbed/shot him to death. Having to go get the gasoline does kind of also establish mens rea --- New England Patriots: Super Bowl XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLIX, LI, LIII Champions <cite>Goldice posted [p:981553117] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>I feel zero sympathy for the guy and immense sympathy for the woman. But there's a reason extrajudicial killing and vigilante justice is frowned upon. I do not blame her for it, but at the same time from a societal standpoint you don't exactly want to make "burning a guy alive extrajudicially" legal. Plus starting a fire like that is pretty dangerous. It's a really tough situation. I also do think this case would have been a lot more muddied if she had a knife or a gun on her and stabbed/shot him to death. Having to go get the gasoline does kind of also establish mens rea</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neccis 08/02/24 8:23:34 AM #74:	Iyami posted... andel posted... revenge killings like this are wrong in theory and should be illegal from a legal standpoint, but this is as good an argument for jury nullification in individual instances as one can have imo. hopefully the mother of the victim ends up with only probation imo as she obviously isnt a threat to anyone that isnt a rapist her getting actual prison time is fucked up imo. prison should be to rehabilitate people or keep violent people away from society. the mother clearly doesnt belong in prison I don't think they're wrong at all --- PSN: SlCCEN Rest in Peace Mamba <cite>neccis posted [p:981553151] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Iyami posted... </cite><quote></quote>andel posted... </cite><quote>revenge killings like this are wrong in theory and should be illegal from a legal standpoint, but this is as good an argument for jury nullification in individual instances as one can have imo. hopefully the mother of the victim ends up with only probation imo as she obviously isnt a threat to anyone that isnt a rapist her getting actual prison time is fucked up imo. prison should be to rehabilitate people or keep violent people away from society. the mother clearly doesnt belong in prison</quote>I don't think they're wrong at all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 08/02/24 8:43:36 AM #75:	Unsuprised_Pika posted... crime of passion Google "premeditation" --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:981553303] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Unsuprised_Pika posted... </cite><quote>crime of passion</quote>Google "premeditation"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tripleh213 08/02/24 9:02:03 AM #76:	ironman2009 posted... got no love for rapists. fair next imo --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great <cite>tripleh213 posted [p:981553442] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>ironman2009 posted... </cite><quote>got no love for rapists.fair next imo</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Goldenguy 08/02/24 9:12:34 AM #77:	This woman should have only had probation/suspended sentence IMO. --- Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand. Ignorance, prejudice, and fear walk hand in hand. <cite>Goldenguy posted [p:981553527] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>This woman should have only had probation/suspended sentence IMO.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Orosuke 08/02/24 9:24:15 AM #78:	Im not for citizens killing each other, because there is a line. However, Im also not for rapists taunting their victims, and I dont feel an ounce of sympathy for the man who was killed. Nor would I have voted to convict. Being against capitol punishment is being against the government systematically killing its citizens using an imperfect justice system. Not punishing the woman, and being against capitol punishment is not hypocrisy, its stupid to equate them. --- Sig goes here <cite>Orosuke posted [p:981553630] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Im not for citizens killing each other, because there is a line. However, Im also not for rapists taunting their victims, and I dont feel an ounce of sympathy for the man who was killed. Nor would I have voted to convict. Being against capitol punishment is being against the government systematically killing its citizens using an imperfect justice system. Not punishing the woman, and being against capitol punishment is not hypocrisy, its stupid to equate them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThexFury 08/02/24 9:29:32 AM #79:	I could maybe see giving her weekend jail time for a year at the most. Dude raped her daughter at knife-point, then shows up the first day after his release to taunt her. Then went to hang out at a local spot they frequent. Pretty obvious he was gonna try something again, so she did something about it. --- Bah Gawd!!! That Batista is an Animal!!! - JR <cite>ThexFury posted [p:981553674] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>I could maybe see giving her weekend jail time for a year at the most. Dude raped her daughter at knife-point, then shows up the first day after his release to taunt her. Then went to hang out at a local spot they frequent. Pretty obvious he was gonna try something again, so she did something about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuneMan 08/02/24 9:58:51 AM #80:	The taunting he did put this over the top. At that moment she's in a Catch 22 situation. If she does nothing it puts her and her daughter at risk. If she tries to go to the authorities they'll do nothing about the rhetoric, because they're stupid when it comes to bullying behavior(even from unabashed criminal scum like this). So while her actions might be against the letter of the law, and posed danger to other people in the bar, it also afforded the most safety to her and her daughter. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao <cite>DuneMan posted [p:981553947] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>The taunting he did put this over the top. At that moment she's in a Catch 22 situation. If she does nothing it puts her and her daughter at risk. If she tries to go to the authorities they'll do nothing about the rhetoric, because they're stupid when it comes to bullying behavior(even from unabashed criminal scum like this). So while her actions might be against the letter of the law, and posed danger to other people in the bar, it also afforded the most safety to her and her daughter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 08/02/24 10:05:04 AM #81:	premeditation doesnt apply if she was temporarily insane due to the rapist taunting her in addition to the trauma of living through the rape and the effects it had on her/her daughter/her family. easy to imagine this causing a mental break. --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:981554008] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>premeditation doesnt apply if she was temporarily insane due to the rapist taunting her in addition to the trauma of living through the rape and the effects it had on her/her daughter/her family. easy to imagine this causing a mental break. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 08/02/24 10:11:19 AM #82:	Is it just me or does it seem that a lot of posters here think she went after him after he got out of jail instead of him going to her and taunting her? I mean it sounds like she wouldnt have done a thing if he stayed the fuck away. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:981554060] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Is it just me or does it seem that a lot of posters here think she went after him after he got out of jail instead of him going to her and taunting her? I mean it sounds like she wouldnt have done a thing if he stayed the fuck away. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 08/02/24 10:13:14 AM #83:	_Valigarmanda_ posted... This one is pretty complicated - Vigilante killings are wrong, there's no point in a legal system otherwise On the other hand, people reacting "in the heat of the moment" especially considering these circumstances is understandable ...but then on a third hand, dousing a person with gasoline and lighting them on fire is wild, and you're a bit of a nut This is about where I am. I'd have far more sympathy for the woman if she pushed him into traffic or beat him with the nearest object to hand, or hell, even if she had a gun and shot him. Lighting the dude on fire goes into a dark territory. --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:981554072] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>_Valigarmanda_ posted... </cite><quote>This one is pretty complicated -Vigilante killings are wrong, there's no point in a legal system otherwiseOn the other hand, people reacting "in the heat of the moment" especially considering these circumstances is understandable ...but then on a third hand, dousing a person with gasoline and lighting them on fire is wild, and you're a bit of a nut</quote>This is about where I am.I'd have far more sympathy for the woman if she pushed him into traffic or beat him with the nearest object to hand, or hell, even if she had a gun and shot him.Lighting the dude on fire goes into a dark territory.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Takuya_Lee 08/02/24 10:15:42 AM #84:	While setting people on fire is wrong, I do not blame the mother in this case. --- Narutaki was right. This is all Decade's fault. <cite>Takuya_Lee posted [p:981554083] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>While setting people on fire is wrong, I do not blame the mother in this case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philip027 08/02/24 10:22:23 AM #85:	I feel like she knew she would be punished for this, and was completely A-OK with that. Not much more you can say in that regard. I have no issue with what she did; many parents would do similarly. I don't have inherent qualms against vigilante justice that others seem to. Maybe if people tried not being unrepentant child rapists, it wouldn't happen as often. \_()_/ <cite>Philip027 posted [p:981554141] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>I feel like she knew she would be punished for this, and was completely A-OK with that. Not much more you can say in that regard.I have no issue with what she did; many parents would do similarly. I don't have inherent qualms against vigilante justice that others seem to. Maybe if people tried not being unrepentant child rapists, it wouldn't happen as often. \_()_/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 08/02/24 10:27:48 AM #87:	Fair next 5 years is pretty lenient for murder so justice was mostly served --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:981554203] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Fair next5 years is pretty lenient for murder so justice was mostly served</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philip027 08/02/24 10:31:02 AM #88:	Orosuke posted... You probably should. Vigilante justice is what killed George Floyd. Or Emmet Till. Well, I'm not going to. I simply don't agree that it's something that's inherently "wrong" solely because it's vigilante justice. That's not the same thing as saying that I think all instances of it are okay. Which, to be clear, isn't what I think. <cite>Philip027 posted [p:981554231] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Orosuke posted... </cite><quote>You probably should. Vigilante justice is what killed George Floyd. Or Emmet Till.</quote>Well, I'm not going to. I simply don't agree that it's something that's inherently "wrong" solely because it's vigilante justice.That's not the same thing as saying that I think all instances of it are okay. Which, to be clear, isn't what I think.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Orosuke 08/02/24 10:35:42 AM #89:	Philip027 posted... Well, I'm not going to. I simply don't agree that it's something that's inherently "wrong" solely because it's vigilante justice. That's not the same thing as saying that I think all instances of it are okay. Which, to be clear, isn't what I think. Hey, fair enough. I dont believe the mother was wrong in this instance either. But I do believe vigilante justice should be generally frowned upon, as it creates a slippery slope of avoiding due process. Our criminal justice system is very flawed, but people are even more so. --- Sig goes here <cite>Orosuke posted [p:981554289] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Philip027 posted... </cite><quote>Well, I'm not going to. I simply don't agree that it's something that's inherently "wrong" solely because it's vigilante justice.That's not the same thing as saying that I think all instances of it are okay. Which, to be clear, isn't what I think.</quote>Hey, fair enough. I dont believe the mother was wrong in this instance either. But I do believe vigilante justice should be generally frowned upon, as it creates a slippery slope of avoiding due process. Our criminal justice system is very flawed, but people are even more so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnrivaledKoopa 08/02/24 10:42:12 AM #90:	Orosuke posted... Hey, fair enough. I dont believe the mother was wrong in this instance either. But I do believe vigilante justice should be generally frowned upon, as it creates a slippery slope of avoiding due process. Our criminal justice system is very flawed, but people are even more so. Vigilante justice is the natural outcome when institutional justice fails. If you want vigilante justice to stop, make the courts and police just. The problem isn't that she took justice into her own hands, the problem is that she had to. --- I never wanted to be a serial killer, anyway. I wanted to be... a LUMBERJACK! - Dexter Morgan <cite>UnrivaledKoopa posted [p:981554362] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Orosuke posted... </cite><quote>Hey, fair enough. I dont believe the mother was wrong in this instance either. But I do believe vigilante justice should be generally frowned upon, as it creates a slippery slope of avoiding due process. Our criminal justice system is very flawed, but people are even more so.</quote>Vigilante justice is the natural outcome when institutional justice fails. If you want vigilante justice to stop, make the courts and police just.The problem isn't that she took justice into her own hands, the problem is that she had to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Philip027 08/02/24 10:44:36 AM #91:	The thing is, sometimes the "system" fails us. The fact that this guy was right back immediately after a (honestly very light) prison sentence taunting the mother about what he did to her child (more or less indirectly threatening that he'd do it again) is textbook demonstration of this. I'd really like to hear more about what the people decrying the mother for her actions would have done in her stead, and how much good they think their alternate choices of action would have done. <cite>Philip027 posted [p:981554394] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>The thing is, sometimes the "system" fails us. The fact that this guy was right back immediately after a (honestly very light) prison sentence taunting the mother about what he did to her child (more or less indirectly threatening that he'd do it again) is textbook demonstration of this.I'd really like to hear more about what the people decrying the mother for her actions would have done in her stead, and how much good they think their alternate choices of action would have done.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 08/02/24 10:52:34 AM #92:	Nobody here knows what they would have done because nobody has been in that exact situation. --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:981554475] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Nobody here knows what they would have done because nobody has been in that exact situation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nocturnal_traveler 08/02/24 11:15:41 AM #93:	CyricZ posted... Nobody here knows what they would have done because nobody has been in that exact situation. Most posters here are saying they wouldn't know what they'd do, or that they'd probably do the same thing. --- --I understand your opinion. I just don't care about it. ~Jedah-- <cite>nocturnal_traveler posted [p:981554790] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite><quote>Nobody here knows what they would have done because nobody has been in that exact situation.</quote>Most posters here are saying they wouldn't know what they'd do, or that they'd probably do the same thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neccis 08/02/24 11:27:24 AM #94:	nocturnal_traveler posted... Most posters here are saying they wouldn't know what they'd do, or that they'd probably do the same thing. Most normal people would get some type of revenge in one form or another --- PSN: SlCCEN Rest in Peace Mamba <cite>neccis posted [p:981554938] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>nocturnal_traveler posted... </cite><quote>Most posters here are saying they wouldn't know what they'd do, or that they'd probably do the same thing.</quote>Most normal people would get some type of revenge in one form or another</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 08/02/24 11:29:49 AM #95:	Orosuke posted... Vigilante justice is what killed George Floyd The man who died in police custody? He was killed by vigilantes? --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:981554969] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Orosuke posted... </cite><quote>Vigilante justice is what killed George Floyd</quote>The man who died in police custody?He was killed by vigilantes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Orosuke 08/02/24 11:34:34 AM #96:	DrizztLink posted... The man who died in police custody? He was killed by vigilantes? Whoopsie. Mixed up my hate crime victims names. Trayvon Martin. --- Sig goes here <cite>Orosuke posted [p:981555028] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>The man who died in police custody?He was killed by vigilantes?</quote>Whoopsie. Mixed up my hate crime victims names. Trayvon Martin. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Diceheist 08/02/24 12:09:37 PM #97:	What the children don't understand is that the law is about your actions, not who the other person is. "Well he was a bad guy" is completely irrelevant. Orosuke posted... I don't have inherent qualms against vigilante justice that others seem to. Maybe if people tried not being unrepentant child rapists, it wouldn't happen as often. \_()_/ You probably should. Vigilante justice is what killed George Floyd. Or Emmet Till. Picking a name out of a hat and saying they did something is not the same as the justice sytem arresting and convicting. --- sigh <cite>Diceheist posted [p:981555421] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>What the children don't understand is that the law is about your actions, not who the other person is."Well he was a bad guy" is completely irrelevant.Orosuke posted...</cite><quote>I don't have inherent qualms against vigilante justice that others seem to. Maybe if people tried not being unrepentant child rapists, it wouldn't happen as often. \_()_/You probably should. Vigilante justice is what killed George Floyd. Or Emmet Till. </quote>Picking a name out of a hat and saying they did something is not the same as the justice sytem arresting and convicting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheShadowViper 08/02/24 12:38:00 PM #98:	Mr_Karate_II posted... She shouldn't have gotten any prison time. She was defending her daughter, the rapist made contact with the mom, taunted her and more or less let her know what his intentions were. She protected her daughter from getting victimized again or worse. She was not defending her daughter by going to get gasoline, going to a bar, and then throwing gasoline onto this guy and lighting him on fire. Her daughter was 13 in 1998. There is no mention of the daughter's whereabouts at the time, and the mother does not use her as a defense beyond the rape being motive for revenge. This man deserves no sympathy, but murder is murder and that is what this was. She was convicted of such. "Mara was reportedly found wandering around the port on the evening of the killing and confessed. She claimed she'd intended to scare or badly injure him to give him an idea of what he put her daughter through." That is what she admitted her motive was. That is not self defense, that is revenge. <cite>TheShadowViper posted [p:981555801] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Mr_Karate_II posted... </cite><quote>She shouldn't have gotten any prison time. She was defending her daughter, the rapist made contact with the mom, taunted her and more or less let her know what his intentions were. She protected her daughter from getting victimized again or worse.</quote>She was not defending her daughter by going to get gasoline, going to a bar, and then throwing gasoline onto this guy and lighting him on fire. Her daughter was 13 in 1998. There is no mention of the daughter's whereabouts at the time, and the mother does not use her as a defense beyond the rape being motive for revenge.This man deserves no sympathy, but murder is murder and that is what this was. She was convicted of such.<quote>"Mara was reportedly found wandering around the port on the evening of the killing and confessed. She claimed she'd intended to scare or badly injure him to give him an idea of what he put her daughter through."</quote>That is what she admitted her motive was. That is not self defense, that is revenge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mybbqrules 08/02/24 1:40:29 PM #99:	CyricZ posted... Nobody here knows what they would have done because nobody has been in that exact situation. Bullshit. I'm a parent. If someone had raped my daughter then stopped by immediately after he got out to cryptically taunt me and low-key threaten my daughter again, I know exactly what would happen, and it wouldn't be anything good for Mr. rapist pedo. --- Currently playing: Jurassic Word Evo 2, Fortnite STW, WoW, Punch-Out, Super Punch-Out, Project Zomboid Convicted felon Donald Trump: Inmate No. P01135809 <cite>mybbqrules posted [p:981556567] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite><quote>Nobody here knows what they would have done because nobody has been in that exact situation.</quote>Bullshit. I'm a parent. If someone had raped my daughter then stopped by immediately after he got out to cryptically taunt me and low-key threaten my daughter again, I know exactly what would happen, and it wouldn't be anything good for Mr. rapist pedo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Enclave 08/02/24 1:41:54 PM #100:	I never condone killing but holy shit what did that guy expect? He'd likely be alive right now if he didn't antagonize her after getting out of prison. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. <cite>Enclave posted [p:981556585] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>I never condone killing but holy shit what did that guy expect? He'd likely be alive right now if he didn't antagonize her after getting out of prison. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 08/02/24 1:41:58 PM #101:	Imagine going to jail and leaving your daughter alone when she needed you the most --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:981556587] in Woman burn... [t:80821109]...</cite> <quote>Imagine going to jail and leaving your daughter alone when she needed you the most</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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