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UnfairRepresent 08/15/24 4:27:12 PM #1: |
The largest cybersecurity company in the US has apologised for using two women posing with company-branded lampshades on their heads at a trade event in Las Vegas. They were meant to draw attention to Palo Alto Networks' sponsorship of a "CyberRisk Collaborative Happy Hour" at the Black Hat conference. But the publicity stunt has sparked a backlash, with critics calling it "sexist", "creepy" and "tone deaf". In a LinkedIn post, external, the firms boss Nikesh Arora admitted it was a misjudgement, saying it was "unequivocally not the culture we support, or aspire to be". The company has faced fierce criticism online for the lampshade outfits, which obscured the womens faces. "So we women are nothing more than props to you? We are only at BlackHat to be lampshade holders?" asked executive advisor Olivia Rose in a LinkedIn post, external that eventually prompted Mr Aroras apology. "Shame on you - just shame", she wrote. The image of the women was taken by LinkedIn user Sean Juroviesky, external who described the scene as "sexist". "What the hell Palo Alto Networks is it 1960?", he commented. 'Booth babe' origins The idea for the outfits seems to have been inspired by the so-called "booth babes" of the early days of the Consumer Electronics Show, in the 1960s, where women were hired as hostesses at what were mostly male-attended events. By the 1990s the use of what were often scantily-clad women in this way started facing a backlash, and by the 2010s it had largely disappeared. But the male dominance of the tech industry has not gone away - nor have concerns that women are being shut out or treated in sexist ways. When it shut unexpectedly earlier this year, the tech network Women Who Code said its vision of a tech industry "where diverse women and historically excluded people thrive at every level is not fulfilled". One of the few female tech CEOs Bumbles Lidiane Jones told the BBC this year it was "still not an equitable journey for women today" in the industry. Full Article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y5r11xmkvo https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3cd389f7.jpg What would your rather do as a job? Wear a bikini and pretend to enjoy crappy video games you have no interest in? Or wear sensual dress with a lampshade on your head and pretend to be a slutty lamp? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 08/15/24 4:29:04 PM #2: |
When I die I want somebody to turn me into a lampshade --- See profile pic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Were_Wyrm 08/15/24 4:30:39 PM #3: |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gId6nrMDmUU --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/0EJvC4l.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 08/15/24 4:31:39 PM #4: |
I wonder how people would have reacted if it was a man and a woman --- Sack to crack, going to town ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/15/24 4:32:35 PM #5: |
DipDipDiver posted... I wonder how people would have reacted if it was a man and a womanBoom A little diversity goes a long way That said I doubt the guy would be oiled up and shirtless with perfect abs --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 08/15/24 4:47:44 PM #6: |
I mean, I assume a man would be dressed in formal wear like those women are --- Sack to crack, going to town ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Persona 08/15/24 4:47:54 PM #7: |
UnfairRepresent posted... Boom which woman had perfect tits, let alone oiled and exposed? butler lamp man would've been funny --- https://youtu.be/NzeT-IPvOC4?si=aBabtcY_aZf428E0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vyrulisse 08/15/24 4:48:57 PM #8: |
Is this shit really worth getting into a seething rage over? --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-4g7SeTAoQ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 08/15/24 4:49:57 PM #9: |
Vyrulisse posted... Is this shit really worth getting into a seething rage over?Considering the history of the tech industry, yes --- Sack to crack, going to town ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 08/15/24 4:50:22 PM #10: |
Vyrulisse posted... Is this shit really worth getting into a seething rage over?In tech, absolutely --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Compsognathus 08/15/24 4:52:24 PM #12: |
Turning women into lampshades? https://youtu.be/he4VWowbhIU?si=gt6UN9AVaFSrqrYl --- 1 line break(s), 160 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjnelson 08/15/24 4:58:30 PM #13: |
It's only an issue for anyone because they're female. People invent stuff to cry about. If someone would have went up to these women and told them they're fired because they're being replaced with male lamps, it would've been wrong that men are taking jobs from these women. Example of literally nothing being made into sexism: People have been offended at terms like "policeman" or "fireman" or "manpower." A while back we had a thread about linemen. There's people that pretend these are sexist terms, even though "man" is gender-neutral here. man --- I'm not here for friends. I'm here for the truth to the best of my knowledge of it, even if it's not what people want to hear. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 08/15/24 5:00:19 PM #14: |
pjnelson posted... It's only an issue for anyone because they're female. People invent stuff to cry about. If someone would have went up to these women and told them they're fired because they're being replaced with male lamps, it would've been wrong that men are taking jobs from these women.it's fun to ignore context isn't it --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 08/15/24 5:01:41 PM #15: |
Even if you're willing to hand wave the sexism, using women as furniture at a tech event is ridiculously tonedeaf --- Sack to crack, going to town ... Copied to Clipboard!
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specialkid8 08/15/24 5:07:52 PM #16: |
This is no different than booth babes or ring girls. And this was in Vegas so sexy cocktail waitresses and hostesses and everything else are kind of the norm. If you have an issue with those things then sure, go for it, but I don't think it has anything to do specifically with any kind of of tech industry boys club mentality. --- https://i.imgur.com/AUXKMK4.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deegs 08/15/24 6:01:45 PM #18: |
Most benign booth babes I've ever seen. --- The only people that can say what matters to gaming are those that buy and play them.-Ollie Barder, Forbes Contributor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 08/15/24 6:20:29 PM #19: |
specialkid8 posted... This is no different than booth babes or ring girls.correct but you have the wrong takeaway --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EPR-radar 08/15/24 6:40:15 PM #20: |
Vyrulisse posted... Is this shit really worth getting into a seething rage over?It's much more like "oh, more deplorable shit from tech bros who really should get out of their man caves more often" than the seething rage one sees from the right. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/16/24 3:48:27 AM #22: |
Deegs posted... Most benign booth babes I've ever seen."But you have seen me" --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andel 08/16/24 4:53:09 AM #23: |
i thought this was gonna be about a murderer --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RasterGraphic 08/16/24 5:20:03 AM #24: |
I get why this is problematic, but it's hard to care enough to be offended. It comes off more as fucking stupid than anything. They should have had included a man. --- "Well, thanks to the Internet, I'm now bored with sex." - Philip J. Fry ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BDSMKane 08/16/24 5:35:29 AM #25: |
They were intentionally trying to evoke the booth babe look but with the faces not being visible. I think I understand what they were going for, a simpler times with modern security approach. That being said, it seems like a garbage idea even so. Anyone trying to intentionally call back to some fantasy golden age is misguided at best. Having people play as furniture is even up my alley on the BDSM end of things; but not like this. This is just creepy and unnerving. Someone should be getting fired at minimum. --- No matter our origin, we are all one family, we all share one planet, and we all need to feel loved and accepted. We are more alike than different. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rotterdammerung 08/16/24 5:36:32 AM #26: |
That is some 1990s booth girl bullshit, lol --- Evil begins when you begin to treat people as things. GNU STP They/them. Bad faith user ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/16/24 6:04:27 AM #27: |
BDSMKane posted... Having people play as furniture is even up my alley on the BDSM end of things~BDSMKane --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RasterGraphic 08/16/24 6:08:08 AM #28: |
UnfairRepresent posted... ~BDSMKane That needs to be someone's sig lmao. Not mine though, I like the Futurama quote too much. --- "Well, thanks to the Internet, I'm now bored with sex." - Philip J. Fry ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TomClark 08/16/24 6:10:00 AM #29: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/31f39674.jpg --- http://i.imgur.com/6eF0W.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 08/16/24 6:12:04 AM #30: |
UnfairRepresent posted... Or wear sensual dress with a lampshade on your head and pretend to be a slutty lamp?In what way are they being slutty? --- Oh, I love kissing those big ol' horse teeth. It's like likin' tile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RasterGraphic 08/16/24 6:15:52 AM #31: |
mustachedmystic posted... In what way are they being slutty? You'd have to be blind to not at least see it as mildly suggestive. The dress seems very tight and is revealing cleavage. We now live in a sexually conservative culture, so mildly suggestive comes off as slutty. --- "Well, thanks to the Internet, I'm now bored with sex." - Philip J. Fry ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 08/16/24 6:16:17 AM #32: |
The women had to agree to this. they must not have thought it was too sexist --- Science and Algorithms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 08/16/24 6:23:04 AM #33: |
RasterGraphic posted... We now live in a sexually conservative culture, so mildly suggestive comes off as slutty.Sure, it comes across as slutty to people that think The Handmaids Tale is a utopia, but to normal people, they are just 2 women in nice dresses. --- Oh, I love kissing those big ol' horse teeth. It's like likin' tile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/16/24 6:27:07 AM #34: |
mustachedmystic posted... Sure, it comes across as slutty to people that think The Handmaids Tale is a utopia, but to normal people, they are just 2 women in nice dresses.So would you be cool with your kids teacher wearing that to class? Or your lawyer wearing that in court? Or your repoman coming to collect your debt? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 08/16/24 6:56:54 AM #35: |
UnfairRepresent posted... So would you be cool with your kids teacher wearing that to class?Its a fucking trade show, not an elementary school, or court, and they arent conducting business at private residences. Get the fuck out of here with your straw men. I am cursing because your ridiculous argument is getting to me. --- Oh, I love kissing those big ol' horse teeth. It's like likin' tile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/16/24 7:10:08 AM #36: |
mustachedmystic posted... Its a fucking trade show, not an elementary school, or court, and they arent conducting business at private residences. So? Why does that matter if the outfit is not in any way inappropriate? The argument of "It's not sexualized cuz their tits aren't hanging out" feels like something the guy who spent 2,000 hours on his enirely attractive female followers Fallout New Vegas mod would say. Get the fuck out of here with your straw men. I am cursing because your ridiculous argument is getting to me.It's getting to you because you know it's right. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 08/16/24 7:14:41 AM #37: |
Im sorry, youre right. How dare these women leave the house with exposed shoulders? They should be at home cooking their man dinner and sucking him off! --- Oh, I love kissing those big ol' horse teeth. It's like likin' tile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/16/24 7:15:23 AM #38: |
mustachedmystic posted... Im sorry, youre right. How dare these women leave the house with exposed shoulders? They should be at home cooking their man dinner and sucking him off! mustachedmystic posted... Get the fuck out of here with your straw men. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 08/16/24 7:17:25 AM #39: |
Straw man? You are literally arguing that cocktail dresses are inappropriate attire for a trade show. --- Oh, I love kissing those big ol' horse teeth. It's like likin' tile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/16/24 7:20:16 AM #40: |
I made no such argument. I said they were sensual dresses and looked like slutty lamps. You're the one who went on a weird rant about calling the lamp slutty means the handmaidens tale is a uptopia and women shouldn't leave the home. Personally I think you're angry because you're too uncomfortable with admitting that you were wrong. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 08/16/24 7:25:13 AM #41: |
UnfairRepresent posted... I made no such argument.No, I said someone that thinks they are slutty probably thinks a womans place is in the kitchen. Personally I think you're angry because you're too uncomfortable with admitting that you were wrong.Im angry because the direction the western world seems to going. Its not just America. --- Oh, I love kissing those big ol' horse teeth. It's like likin' tile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/16/24 7:29:57 AM #42: |
Do you not see the difference between a woman going to an event dressed as a slutty lamp by choice And a woman being paid money to dress as a slutty lamp and promote a company because said company think she's hot? No one is even talking about what the other girls were wearing. No one cares. So I think you need to be less angry with the direction the Western World is going. Especially since things like Donald Trump and the Supreme Court are way more scary than a slutty lamp. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 08/16/24 7:35:06 AM #43: |
A slut is a person(traditionally a woman) that sleeps around. They arent pulling a train here, explain to me how they are being slutty. --- Oh, I love kissing those big ol' horse teeth. It's like likin' tile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/16/24 7:38:23 AM #44: |
mustachedmystic posted... A slut is a person(traditionally a woman) that sleeps around. They arent pulling a train here, explain to me how they are being slutty.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/352afc19.jpg Can you spot the difference? If you could have one of these 3 lamps in your young son's bedroom, which would you pick? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 08/16/24 7:41:49 AM #45: |
UnfairRepresent posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/352afc19.jpgOnce again, it is a trade show, not a childs bedroom. --- Oh, I love kissing those big ol' horse teeth. It's like likin' tile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/16/24 7:45:42 AM #46: |
Ok but can you not see why those are slutty lamps? Lamps don't tend to be attractive women in sensual dresses, pearls and long gloves They are lamps. I really don't get why you're pretending you don't see this. Can you post us a picture of the lamps you have? That might help us understand why you can't see what everyone sees. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 08/16/24 7:48:13 AM #47: |
Were in the post honey posting era. If there was anything slutty about those woman, this topic would have been nuked, and TC banned hours ago. --- Oh, I love kissing those big ol' horse teeth. It's like likin' tile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Newave 08/16/24 7:51:12 AM #48: |
I can't imagine how overly perfect your life has to be for you to reach the level of forcing yourself to pretend you're upset over this just to break the monotony of literal perfection in your life the tech company shouldn't have apologized as there was nothing to apologize for, they set the bar lower for how weak companies are they should be ashamed of their behavior and apologize for bending so easily to the will of the fake complainers --- Kill the legs first, that's an ironclad battle tactic! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 08/16/24 7:54:21 AM #49: |
Im not that upset. I am just arguing with you as a form of pre work entertainment. How prudish are you to assume 2 women in cocktail dresses are slutty? Their job is to draw attention to the companies booth. Should they be dressed like a Southern Baptist on Sunday morning? --- Oh, I love kissing those big ol' horse teeth. It's like likin' tile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Newave 08/16/24 7:58:52 AM #50: |
mustachedmystic posted... Im not that upset. I am just arguing with you as a form of pre work entertainment. How prudish are you to assume 2 women in cocktail dresses are slutty? Their job is to draw attention to the companies booth. Should they be dressed like a Southern Baptist on Sunday morning?just to clarify, my reply wasn't aimed at you, it was aimed at the story in general and the people who faked being upset so they could complain over this literal nothing to the point where the company apologized for doing nothing wrong --- Kill the legs first, that's an ironclad battle tactic! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 08/16/24 8:06:04 AM #51: |
DipDipDiver posted... I wonder how people would have reacted if it was a man and a woman I remember going to some Capcom exhibition and they had both a Ryu and Chun-Li cosplayer. I thought that was great. The Ryu cosplayer was in good shape. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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