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pazzy 08/16/24 2:06:16 PM #2: |
Depends on how they mean. It probably is transphobic, but it could be worth looking into that MTF is more common than FTM. I don't particularly care, but it could be interesting to look into for the sake of actual science. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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absolutebuffoon 08/16/24 2:08:26 PM #3: |
This is not the headline to but actually about. --- Gamefolks.proboards.com. The newest and greatest spinoff site ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lonestar2000 08/16/24 2:08:47 PM #4: |
pazzy posted... Depends on how they mean. It probably is transphobic, but it could be worth looking into that MTF is more common than FTM.Shut the fuck up --- Rumble Roses. Someone enters the room. Them: O_O Me: What?! I always play games without my pants on!- Inmate 922335 #ImpeachToadDickTrump ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pazzy 08/16/24 2:10:03 PM #5: |
Lonestar2000 posted... Shut the fuck upWTF is your problem? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gamespoht 08/16/24 2:11:59 PM #6: |
"Fox News" That's completely believable from them --- ''No copyright law in the universe is going to stop me''-Sonic The Hedgehog I am Gamespot's Unofficial Mascot....Love Me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 08/16/24 2:15:35 PM #7: |
pazzy posted... Depends on how they mean. It probably is transphobic, but it could be worth looking into that MTF is more common than FTM. It's misleading because things like breast implants can constitute gender affirming surgeries. How about shaving down your jawline so it's not as masculine looking? Gender affirming surgery. I need to look at their sampling of data and what they constitute gender affirming surgery before I can say conclusively one way or another. As the headline is presented, it is totally transphobic. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pazzy 08/16/24 2:17:30 PM #8: |
Alucard188 posted... It's misleading because things like breast implants can constitute gender affirming surgeries. How about shaving down your jawline so it's not as masculine looking? Gender affirming surgery. I need to look at their sampling of data and what they constitute gender affirming surgery before I can say conclusively one way or another. As the headline is presented, it is totally transphobic.Yeah, which is why I said it probably is transphobic. Which is a shame because there are things that could be kinda interesting to look into. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sandalorn 08/16/24 2:25:16 PM #9: |
They throw a word like "may" in there and they can say just about anything. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The23rdMagus 08/16/24 2:29:47 PM #10: |
I'm not all that alarmed. --- ~Drewnami~ A beacon of Light from a burning screen. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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derp420 08/16/24 3:33:04 PM #12: |
The23rdMagus posted... I'm not all that alarmed. --- It's the side effects that save us. ... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BrohammedAli 08/17/24 2:50:44 AM #14: |
pazzy posted... but it could be worth looking into that MTF is more common than FTM. Citation needed. Trans femmes are more visible than trans mascs, but this is mostly due to sexist patriarchal social structures. You see this a lot currently in the bathroom debates; no one is arguing that trans men in the women's room would be a problem because we simply erase trans men from public discourse. The common image we think some is some twinky short-king because god forbid we acknowledge that your average trans masc just looks like a middle aged dad. --- https://www.discogs.com/user/Nocoasts ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CobraGT 08/17/24 2:52:03 AM #15: |
pazzy posted... Depends on how they mean. It probably is transphobic, but it could be worth looking into that MTF is more common than FTM. Fox News is not a source for serious data. Besides more MtF than FtM might be correlated to men having more money. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hyena_Of_Ice 08/17/24 3:08:30 AM #16: |
Alucard188 posted... It's misleading because things like breast implants can constitute gender affirming surgeries. How about shaving down your jawline so it's not as masculine looking? Gender affirming surgery. I need to look at their sampling of data and what they constitute gender affirming surgery before I can say conclusively one way or another. As the headline is presented, it is totally transphobic. I've seen some transphobic "statistics" that included double mastectomies in teen and preteen girls. There are medically valid reasons to get this done the split second a girl begins puberty (namely, a family history of an uber high risk factor for breast cancer. We're talking even-multiple-guys-got-breast-cancer-level risk.) This is known as a "prophylactic mastectomy." They are incredibly rare in minors (FYI, in HS I knew a 16yo girl who was a breast cancer survivor.) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pazzy 08/17/24 3:17:14 AM #17: |
BrohammedAli posted... Citation needed.Go look it up yourself. It's literally like the easiest thing to find. Especially after you're going to say a house of nonsense afterwards. That literally has nothing to do with what was said. Like what you just said is beyond fucking shitty. Like holy shit. CobraGT posted... Fox News is not a source for serious data. Besides more MtF than FtM might be correlated to men having more money.Possibly, but. Yeah, I think people are missing the part where I said "it's probably transphobic." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pazzy 08/17/24 3:21:08 AM #18: |
Hyena_Of_Ice posted... I've seen some transphobic "statistics" that included double mastectomies in teen and preteen girls.Damn, that's pretty awesome she pulled through. But that's horrible to get that so young. And yeah, considering that this wasn't even an article, we can only guess what fox had to say about it. Probably not good, but there's not much substance to talk about overall because there's nothing there. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BrohammedAli 08/17/24 3:21:34 AM #19: |
lol at trying to mansplain the makeup of transpeople to a fucking trans person. If it it was the "easiest" thing to find, you'd have cited anything. but you didn't. because you're just pulling shit out of your ass. --- https://www.discogs.com/user/Nocoasts ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pazzy 08/17/24 3:31:07 AM #20: |
BrohammedAli posted... lol at trying to mansplain the makeup of transpeople to a fucking trans person.What the hell are you even on about? I literally said I wasn't going to explain to you and told you to do it yourself. thats literally the opposite of mansplaining. Also, just being something doesn't make you an all knowing expert either. So if a person is American, does that make them an expert on all American statistics? No. It does not. I literally found one after a 2 second search. I just didn't for someone that decided to be a complete jackass within two seconds. That's why I said I'm not bothering to give you anything if you're going to say a house of stereotypes and what not. False. You can literally find that all over the place. The numbers are not even. Especially when you consider that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BrohammedAli 08/17/24 3:38:46 AM #21: |
ah yes. The stereotype that trans men look like men. Because of course they do. Because they're men. I'm glad you think that a 2 second Google search is somehow enough for you to have the slightest clue as to what you're talking about, but maybe when we're talking about a group of people that have been historically underrepresented at every level of society, we listen to the community? Unless of course you think humoring the possibility that Fox News has any chance of not publishing transphobic garbage is more worth your time. --- https://www.discogs.com/user/Nocoasts ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pazzy 08/17/24 3:44:11 AM #22: |
BrohammedAli posted... ah yes. The stereotype that trans men look like men. Because of course they do. Because they're men.What the devil are you even talking about? Like seriously this doesn't even sound like a coherent response to what I said. This ... Still doesn't make any sense with the topic at hand. MTF has been more common than FTM. The only real trend we've seen is an increase to children being gender dysphoric more , and the numbers are coming closer to being equalized. Which ... If you were actually going to discuss this rather than using this as an excuse to inanely say nonsense at me, I'd be more inclined to have a serious discussion about it. Which is what I said from the start. "It's probably transphobic" and I even said I'm a later post there's no real information that we can even discuss from them because there isn't even an article. You aren't even trying to be authentic here. This shit is not okay. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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008Zulu 08/17/24 3:49:33 AM #23: |
pazzy posted... Depends on how they mean.It's Fox News? It's transphobic. --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pazzy 08/17/24 3:56:14 AM #24: |
008Zulu posted... It's Fox News? It's transphobic.Do people just no longer have the ability to read on CE? Like damn. Read my whole post. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranAures 08/17/24 4:52:16 AM #25: |
We are reading your whole posts. Particularly the parts where you refuse to cite your own sources despite finding them "in 2 seconds" and try to downplay clear fearmongering of gender affirming care as "probably" transphobic. But hey, I'm sure you are intimately more familiar with what is or is not transphobia. You made the claim, you back it up, none of this "Google it" because you don't like being called out. Some folks also remember you as one of the ones that was angry people were including Vivian as trans representation because they actually put the new translation closer to the original text. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. He/They ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueKat 08/17/24 4:53:39 AM #26: |
the fuck is going on in this topic --- There is no good. There is no evil. There just is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranAures 08/17/24 4:59:49 AM #27: |
I've seen some transphobic "statistics" that included double mastectomies in teen and preteen girlsOr ones that treat people that stopped jumping through hoops as detrsnsitioners to paint the narrative that 50% or more of kids "grow out" of being trans. They love misleading little studies like those to try to paint being trans as more disastrous and more "alarming" or "just a phase." Much like they use one win in one event to present a "dominance" in sports while ignoring that the same sompetitor lost 5 other events or both the complainer and the complainee lost to a literal child. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. He/They ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BrohammedAli 08/17/24 5:07:14 AM #28: |
GranAures posted... Or ones that treat people that stopped jumping through hoops as detrsnsitioners to paint the narrative that 50% or more of kids "grow out" of being trans. They love misleading little studies like those to try to paint being trans as more disastrous and more "alarming." Much like they use one win in one event to present a "dominance" in sports while ignoring that the same sompetitor lost 5 other events or both the complainer and the complainee lost to a literal child. My favorite is when they argue that transgender kids are just more depressed and prone to killing themselves, while ignoring the reality that these kids are subjected to shitty parents, a shitty medical system, a shitty school system, shitty "friends", and so on and so on. Like, while I'll always be bummed about how much of my life I missed out on because I transitioned in my thirties, for me personally I'm incredibly grateful that I was able to do so later in life because there's no fucking way teenage me would have been strong enough to pull through. --- https://www.discogs.com/user/Nocoasts ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranAures 08/17/24 5:14:04 AM #29: |
BrohammedAli posted... My favorite is when they argue that transgender kids are just more depressed and prone to killing themselves, while ignoring the reality that these kids are subjected to shitty parents, a shitty medical system, a shitty school system, shitty "friends", and so on and so on.Yep, and that shit continues despite transitioning and even dltemporsrily detransitioning means dealing with the dysphoria that comes with it so there is literally no way to go in unaffriming locations. Glad you can live your life now at least. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. He/They ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DipDipDiver 08/17/24 9:53:54 AM #31: |
Normally I'd encourage people to read more than just the headline, but it's literally Fox News --- Sack to crack, going to town ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pazzy 08/17/24 9:57:22 AM #32: |
DipDipDiver posted... Normally I'd encourage people to read more than just the headline, but it's literally Fox NewsYeah, which is why I said it probably is bad, and moved on, but clearly this is me being transphobic somehow. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranAures 08/17/24 9:58:05 AM #33: |
DipDipDiver posted... Normally I'd encourage people to read more than just the headline, but it's literally Fox NewsAnd reading more than just the headline would prove they meant so much worse. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. He/They ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranAures 08/17/24 10:01:13 AM #34: |
Yes, pazzy, downplaying clear transphobia is typically transphobic. Everyone else in this thread knows the typical whistles to attack trans people and their healthcare and the only one who has a hard time calling it what it is is also the person that wants to lean on "you people" to dismiss others. Oh. And still can't cite your sources. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. He/They ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Robot2600 08/17/24 10:06:29 AM #36: |
fuck fox --- April 15, 2024: The Day the Internet Died ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deej 08/17/24 10:07:12 AM #37: |
BlueKat posted... the fuck is going on in this topicThe first reply was a dumb post, and then a bunch of people responded to it --- Hey, everyone, what's going on in this topic? Oh. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranAures 08/17/24 10:08:56 AM #38: |
You are directly calling clear, blatant, anti-trans rhetoric against gender affirming care "probably" transphobic. No, homeslice. It IS transphobic, the entire narrative attack gender affirming care is rooted in transphobia you just can't admit it. That headline is dedicated to driving fear against gender affirming care. And man. Maybe if you had posted your sources the first time instead of jumping like a guilty frog. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. He/They ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pazzy 08/17/24 10:13:53 AM #39: |
GranAures posted... You are directly calling clear, blatant, anti-trans rhetoric against gender affirming care "probably" transphobic.Ok? And what does probably mean? Do you think I'm not thinking it somehow more than likely isn't? Which is stupid. Like it's just dumb. This is not worth attacking. And again, you lied about me being "angry" about something else, so once again, I'm going to go with you're more trying to be angry than... Anything else. Deej posted... The first reply was a dumb post, and then a bunch of people responded to itI guess the only way for the post to bit be dumb is just "fuck Fox" around here. People just want a boogie man way too much. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pazzy 08/17/24 10:16:03 AM #40: |
GranAures posted... And man. Maybe if you had posted your sources the first time instead of jumping like a guilty frog.You aren't going to listen. It doesn't matter what I posted. And I would for actual serious people. Ie, in another topic, someone asked for advice for people that were arguing against puberty blockers. I give the advice about how to help them, but people like you are here to be mad and try to say I'm transphobic rather than actually discuss. I could have a time machine and post literally any source and you'd still rage no matter the timeline. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 08/17/24 10:39:04 AM #41: |
Ok, I found an actual source for the article in the OP. Funny how it focuses on empirical data and a lack of consensus in the medical community, yet the headline for the article in the OP looked at just how many supposedly had these procedures. https://www.city-journal.org/article/a-consensus-no-longer https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/661f4f87.jpg --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 08/17/24 10:44:33 AM #42: |
pazzy posted... Because I know if I post them you'll just lie again and say it's transphobic. So why bother?https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7acaf577.jpg --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranAures 08/17/24 11:24:46 AM #43: |
pazzy posted... You aren't going to listen. It doesn't matter what I posted. And I would for actual serious people.Here is some sincere advice, which you can either take or you can try to claim I'm baiting you to continue to scream "do your own research." You posting your source does nothing but help you. Does nothing but show you are talking in good faith. Legitimately. Moreover if you give it in response to someone being rude or that you think won't listen. Because it will be YOU putting the source out there and not anybody you think might be malicious which allows everybody else to see and judge the source themself. It won't matter if I or any other singular person doesn't believe you or tries to lie about your source because it will be right there. Running and giving yourself excuses to not cite your claims merely makes you look more and more like the same types that scream "do yourbown research" about vaccines, gender affirming care, and the election. Alucard188 posted... Funny how it focuses on empirical data and a lack of consensus in the medical community, yet the headline for the article in the OP looked at just how many supposedly had these procedures.It's really not. It's clearly fox trying to make a pandemic of something they want their audience to fear so they need raw numbers to rike their base. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. He/They ... Copied to Clipboard!
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