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voldothegr8
09/10/24 3:09:14 PM
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Trelve
09/10/24 3:10:22 PM
#103:


Agent_Stroud posted...
Gotta love how its Microsofts fault for Sonys arrogance. Didnt the usual suspects say it would be far better for the industry once Microsoft exited the console market and became an entirely third-party publisher?
If the Series X was a threat to Sony like the 360 was to the PS3, do you think Sony be able to get away with releasing a Pro for this price point?

They can do it because they know that Microsoft can't stop them.
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WingsOfGood
09/10/24 3:16:19 PM
#104:


GhostFaceLeaks posted...
This is just the next step in the end of physical games. Companies will force customers to be digital only and will force them to like it.

If gamers just don't buy companies can't do anything

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Deej
09/10/24 3:17:00 PM
#105:


...No disc drive???

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Will_VIIII
09/10/24 3:19:22 PM
#106:


No disc drive

No stand

No free online

Final Destination

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Trumble
09/10/24 3:20:24 PM
#107:


I won't be getting it because I don't play console anymore, but I'd have no problem with the lack of a disc drive otherwise. I never owned a single physical game on PS4.

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MagnusDJL
09/10/24 3:21:21 PM
#108:


This is awesome news.

Now I REALLY don't have to think about investing in a PS5 Pro, or PS5 anything, and can just focus on what I already.

Thanks Sony!
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Arcanine2009
09/10/24 3:25:30 PM
#109:


SocialistGamer posted...
Jesus fucking Christ, I was hyped but now...
Goes to show how much the gaming industry is bleeding. I think Sony and MS are still losing money on each console sold, or best case scenario--breaking even. PS5 is 450 for the slim digital version.

There was no way this thing was gonna cost $600 at launch if regular retails 450-500.

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Tyranthraxus
09/10/24 3:26:23 PM
#110:


Sony has a stranglehold over Europe and is 50-50 in America so they can basically just do whatever they want now.

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Trumble
09/10/24 3:27:48 PM
#111:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Sony has a stranglehold over Europe and is 50-50 in America so they can basically just do whatever they want now.
PC is a thing, although in fairness people upset about the lack of a disc drive won't be impressed with PC gaming.

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Powdered_Toast
09/10/24 3:28:33 PM
#112:


Foppe posted...
799.99 Euro is... $880!
Is this like a thing where they actually include the tax in the stated price? This monstrosity doesn't actually cost over $1000 USD in Europe, right?

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Tyranthraxus
09/10/24 3:31:26 PM
#113:


Powdered_Toast posted...
Is this like a thing where they actually include the tax in the stated price? This monstrosity doesn't actually cost over $1000 USD in Europe, right?
I think the tax included is only for JPY. I can't imagine tax is the same everywhere in Europe and it definitely isn't the same in America.

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Jiek_Fafn
09/10/24 3:55:38 PM
#114:


Arcanine2009 posted...
Goes to show how much the gaming industry is bleeding. I think Sony and MS are still losing money on each console sold, or best case scenario--breaking even. PS5 is 450 for the slim digital version.
Sony announced that they weren't losing money on each console sold as of like 2021 or 22. Idr exactly, but it was pre slim

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Silver_Patron
09/10/24 3:58:19 PM
#115:


annoying as shit. I still prefer physical games.

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Deyestus
09/10/24 4:01:16 PM
#116:


Frolex posted...
Well i guess that pretty much confirms this is the last gen for physical game releases
Which means it's the last gen I buy a new console.

Give me a physical option or GTFO. I prefer to own my games, not have them tied to a server and lost forever when they decide to pull the plug.

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GhostFaceLeaks
09/10/24 4:04:31 PM
#117:


Charged151 posted...
That will push more people toward PC. Not something Sony probably wants to happen.

They'll just use people buying on PC as a reason why gamers should accept a digital only future.

Hell, expect them to do an update on PS5s that will "Shut down" the disc drives in them for good and force you to be digital only.

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Charged151
09/10/24 4:05:55 PM
#118:


GhostFaceLeaks posted...
They'll just use people buying on PC as a reason why gamers should accept a digital only future.

Hell, expect them to do an update on PS5s that will "Shut down" the disc drives in them for good and force you to be digital only.
I doubt it. The second part also sounds illegal.

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DodogamaRayBrst
09/10/24 4:07:05 PM
#119:


Well, GhostFaceLeaks' gimmick is to shit his pants with made up stories about corporates being cartoon evil when it's fine that they're just regular evil.
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Foppe
09/10/24 4:10:55 PM
#120:


Powdered_Toast posted...
Is this like a thing where they actually include the tax in the stated price? This monstrosity doesn't actually cost over $1000 USD in Europe, right?
Lets see...
In Sweden we got a 25% tax...
And since it is electronic, there is nother $17 per kg... the PS5 is ~6.5 kg, if the Pro is the same then it is another $110.5...
Heh, it can be over $1200 in Sweden.

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Powdered_Toast
09/10/24 4:12:52 PM
#121:


Foppe posted...
Lets see...
In Sweden we got a 25% tax...
And since it is electronic, there is nother $17 per kg... the PS5 is ~6.5 kg, if the Pro is the same then it is another $110.5...
Heh, it can be over $1200 in Sweden.
That's ridiculous.

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LeoRavus
09/10/24 4:17:28 PM
#122:


Might as well invest in a PC with better graphics that'll last until the PS7 generation before spending $700 on that.

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AsucaHayashi
09/10/24 4:19:54 PM
#123:


I miiiight get it somewhere far down the line for the simple reason that if consoles should adopt a stable 60fps standard then we kinda need to support the companies willing to provide the hardware to do so.

of course, they also need some games to go with it so..

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brestugo
09/10/24 4:27:47 PM
#124:


That's 800 for our friends in Europe.

Personally, I can't justify the regular PS5 yet. Maybe when my PS4 conks out.Or maybe I just go to PC, a Steam Deck, or some other platform.

This may be a "Subway" moment, where Sony realizes that they're charging more for the product than most people are willing to pay.

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Foppe
09/10/24 4:31:44 PM
#126:


Powdered_Toast posted...
That's ridiculous.
Indeed, it will be fun to see the price when they throw up preorders.

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Tyranthraxus
09/10/24 4:36:39 PM
#127:


Foppe posted...
Indeed, it will be fun to see the price when they throw up preorders.

Scalpers gonna lose so much money it's gonna be glorious lol

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GhostFaceLeaks
09/10/24 4:38:55 PM
#128:


DodogamaRayBrst posted...
Well, GhostFaceLeaks' gimmick is to shit his pants with made up stories about corporates being cartoon evil when it's fine that they're just regular evil.

Is it really "Cartoon evil" when Corpos have time and time again shown they can go that far?

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LordYeezus
09/10/24 4:39:49 PM
#129:


Have the og model. I think i'm done buying new PS consoles. Will be skipping PS6 maybe as well.

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ItsNotA2Mer
09/10/24 6:00:39 PM
#130:


DarkBlueGetsuga posted...
Wait, what add-on? Was thinking of buying a Slim now after today.

https://direct.playstation.com/en-us/buy-accessories/disc-drive-for-ps5-digital-edition-consoles

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vycebrand2
09/10/24 6:04:14 PM
#131:


Charged151 posted...
That will push more people toward PC. Not something Sony probably wants to happen.
Why would people go to PC is the same idea

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KFHEWUI
09/10/24 6:12:33 PM
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Mechu
09/10/24 6:14:46 PM
#134:


vycebrand2 posted...
Why would people go to PC is the same idea

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R_Jackal
09/10/24 6:53:39 PM
#135:


vycebrand2 posted...
Why would people go to PC is the same idea
Because you get more or less the same games, more reliable and tweakable performance, and the ability to multitask infinitely more on a PC.

Also the advantage of multiple store fronts and regular sales.
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Charged151
09/10/24 7:09:20 PM
#136:


vycebrand2 posted...
Why would people go to PC is the same idea

R_Jackal posted...
Because you get more or less the same games, more reliable and tweakable performance, and the ability to multitask infinitely more on a PC.

Also the advantage of multiple store fronts and regular sales.
You said a lot of what I wanted to say. Adding on...

1. Regarding the sales you mentioned, games present on both platforms are often cheaper on PC, and although in the past there was a higher up front cost for a PC, with consoles increasing in price, you can as others have alluded to make a PC of similar spec to a console at this point, which nullifies even the up front price advantage.

2. Regarding exclusives, Microsoft puts their exclusives on PC already and Sony eventually puts most of their exclusives now on PC as well. That just leaves Nintendo with lots of exclusives not on PC. If you buy the games though, you can legally emulate them on PC, so there is that.

3. And of course, there is infinite backward compatibility on a PC. Want to play an older game like say Fear? No problem on PC. On a console, you have to hope for a port for that specific console or you are out of luck.

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Delirious_Beard
09/11/24 3:22:57 AM
#137:


700 dollars? Chad Warden wipes his ASS with 700 dollars!

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Makeveli_lives
09/11/24 3:29:24 AM
#138:


Silver_Patron posted...
annoying as shit. I still prefer physical games.

Deyestus posted...
Which means it's the last gen I buy a new console.

Give me a physical option or GTFO. I prefer to own my games, not have them tied to a server and lost forever when they decide to pull the plug.
Then yall can buy the physical disc drive and be done with it.

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Kradek
09/11/24 4:00:24 AM
#139:


Tyranthraxus posted...
lmaooooooooo


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ZevLoveDOOM
09/11/24 4:37:08 AM
#140:


the PS5 doesnt have many games that push the console to its limits in terms of performance and shit so unless you're swimming in money, i dont see any reason to buy this...
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superbot400
09/11/24 4:43:01 AM
#141:


R_Jackal posted...
Because you get more or less the same games, more reliable and tweakable performance, and the ability to multitask infinitely more on a PC.

Also the advantage of multiple store fronts and regular sales.

I want to highlight this part. If there is no disc drive, you only have one store front to buy games...which is Sony/Microsoft. Which means you have to deal Apple-tier walled garden problem(which is going to be worse for consoles, because at least Apple is opening up their OS). That means that Sony/Microsoft have complete and full control of their prices for Software.

Sony has been pumping prices for their library so....yeah.


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008Zulu
09/11/24 4:45:57 AM
#142:


Sony: You'll buy it, like it, and thank us for it!

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ZevLoveDOOM
09/11/24 5:13:23 AM
#143:


for that price, you can get a gaming PC that can perform just as good, if not, better than this overpriced brick with racing stripes!

plus you're not limited to just one digital storefront: you got Steam, Epic Games Store, GOG...

like there's just no advantages to buying this.
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ToiletDuck64
09/14/24 5:46:37 AM
#144:


The entire PC setup I'm using cost a total of less than $700.

Why would anyone buy this, except for some warped sense of "principle" or something?

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ssjevot
09/14/24 6:13:03 AM
#145:


ZevLoveDOOM posted...
for that price, you can get a gaming PC that can perform just as good, if not, better than this overpriced brick with racing stripes!


I think this thing is overpriced and not worth it (especially for me in Japan, it's actually more like $850 here with the insane price they're charging us), but that's just not true at all. There is no way you can build a PC with as good or better performance for that price.

https://pk.ign.com/grand-theft-auto-vi-rumored-title/231076/feature/will-ps5-pro-run-gta-6-at-4k60-probably-not-say-the-experts

Talking of Nvidias RTX graphics cards, PC gaming has been the much-debated topic following Sonys reveal of the PS5 Pros eye-watering $699.99 price tag. Ive seen several suggestions across social media that its better value to just save up a little extra money and buy a PC that will prove more powerful than the PS5 Pro. Its an argument I personally think is flawed a strong 4K, high frame-rate PC will set you back notably more money than the cost of the new console. And, when its built, it simply wont be capable of doing the thing many prospective PS5 Pro owners want: playing GTA 6 at launch with the best possible graphics. (GTA 6 will ship on console first, remember.)

Leadbetter has a similar outlook. You will struggle to get that kind of visual quality on a similarly priced PC, he says. The closest GPU on the market now with that kind of feature set and performance is the RTX 4070 which is a fair bit better, I'd say. But your base cost there is $540/480. And then you need to factor in CPU, motherboard, memory, storage, power supply and case.

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Kai_Laguna
09/14/24 6:18:57 AM
#146:


ssjevot posted...
I think this thing is overpriced and not worth it (especially for me in Japan, it's actually more like $850 here with the insane price they're charging us), but that's just not true at all. There is no way you can build a PC with as good or better performance for that price.
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solosnake
09/15/24 10:25:54 PM
#147:


Seems like the only real reason to buy this is to play gta6 lol. Thats the entire point of its existence

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Irony
09/15/24 10:27:59 PM
#148:


Apparently it sucks for actual PS5 games. According to DF, getting Alan Wake to to run at 60 FPS drops the resolution to 864p

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