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DarkChozoGhost
09/25/24 9:46:53 PM
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Mephisto name dropped. I'm not familiar with the character but I know he's basically the devil and people have been asking for him since forever.

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bsp77
09/25/24 9:53:45 PM
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I still want to know what the deal with Sharon coming along is. In episode 2, it seemed like Agatha really didn't want whoever she was supposed to get, and it seemed like she grabbed Sharon instead.

Episode 3 only increased that confusion.

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Blue_Popo
09/25/24 10:03:43 PM
#3:


bsp77 posted...
I still want to know what the deal with Sharon coming along is. In episode 2, it seemed like Agatha really didn't want whoever she was supposed to get, and it seemed like she grabbed Sharon instead.

Episode 3 only increased that confusion.

I think as a joke and needed someone who isn't aubrey plaza. The death was sad and funny.

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TMOG
09/25/24 10:11:45 PM
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So now they're dropping some heavy hints that Teen is Agatha's son, Nicholas Scratch

I think grabbing Sharon was either because Agatha knew the "black heart symbol" was about somebody else so grabbed her as a decoy, since she knows her as Mrs. Hart

OR the reason it was called out specifically as a black heart is because she needed to die to awaken her magic or some shit
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Blue_Popo
09/25/24 10:16:37 PM
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TMOG posted...
So now they're dropping some heavy hints that Teen is Agatha's son, Nicholas Scratch

I think grabbing Sharon was either because Agatha knew the "black heart symbol" was about somebody else so grabbed her as a decoy, since she knows her as Mrs. Hart

OR the reason it was called out specifically as a black heart is because she needed to die to awaken her magic or some shit

I havent seen it but funko pop leaked who it is and some ass is going to just spoil it, regardless of if you are right or wrong
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lilORANG
09/25/24 10:23:51 PM
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I watched it

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bsp77
09/25/24 10:27:09 PM
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Blue_Popo posted...
I think as a joke and needed someone who isn't aubrey plaza. The death was sad and funny.

Goodby sharon
I am sure she is not gone

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AceMos
09/25/24 10:30:27 PM
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no way sharon is dead bet she pops up just fine next episode

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AceMos
09/25/24 10:30:54 PM
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TMOG posted...
So now they're dropping some heavy hints that Teen is Agatha's son, Nicholas Scratch

I think grabbing Sharon was either because Agatha knew the "black heart symbol" was about somebody else so grabbed her as a decoy, since she knows her as Mrs. Hart

OR the reason it was called out specifically as a black heart is because she needed to die to awaken her magic or some shit

we know who the black heart is as she was in the first episode

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Blue_Popo
09/25/24 10:37:04 PM
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Is the mcu really at a point where sharon isn't allowed to die. She might be brought back but come on, let's have some innocent deaths
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AceMos
09/25/24 10:38:24 PM
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Blue_Popo posted...
Is the mcu really at a point where sharon isn't allowed to die. She might be brought back but come on, let's have some innocent deaths

shes not dead because she brings good comedy


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008Zulu
09/25/24 11:39:40 PM
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I am not sure that Teen is Agatha's son. She traded hers for the Darkhold, and didn't Wandavision establish that she has had the Darkhold for centuries?

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AceMos
09/25/24 11:41:01 PM
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008Zulu posted...
She traded hers for the Darkhold
thats what she is ACCUSED of doing

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pegusus123456
09/25/24 11:42:33 PM
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I think the show is trying to imply it, but I don't think it's the case.

My wild guess? Her son is the guy in the first episode that told her about the library burning. That guy seemed weirdly out of place and he was the only major "character" that didn't have an analog in the real world.

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Cartoon_Quoter
09/25/24 11:57:27 PM
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He's real! He exists!

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TMOG
09/26/24 12:00:43 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
My wild guess? Her son is the guy in the first episode that told her about the library burning. That guy seemed weirdly out of place and he was the only major "character" that didn't have an analog in the real world.
I forgot about that guy, this is probably a good guess
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pegusus123456
09/26/24 12:02:22 AM
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TMOG posted...
I forgot about that guy, this is probably a good guess
Thanks.

Also it would be appropriate for the kid she supposedly traded for the Darkhold to comment on what happened to the Darkhold

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Compsognathus
09/26/24 12:27:45 AM
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My theory is that the teen is Wanda's son Billy. The show is clearly trying to point the viewer to assume it's Agatha's son, but Wanda's shadow looms over the whole show. So swerving it to be Wanda's kid would be a good twist. Also...Billy is like the only gay teen magic user in Marvel and that just seems like too much a coincidence for a spin off of Wandavision.

And after the Mephisto name drop it makes me wonder if Aubrey Plaza's black heart symbolism is more than symbolism and that she's Blackheart herself.

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AceMos
09/26/24 12:48:42 AM
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Compsognathus posted...
My theory is that the teen is Wanda's son Billy. The show is clearly trying to point the viewer to assume it's Agatha's son, but Wanda's shadow looms over the whole show. So swerving it to be Wanda's kid would be a good twist. Also...Billy is like the only gay teen magic user in Marvel and that just seems like too much a coincidence for a spin off of Wandavision.

And after the Mephisto name drop it makes me wonder if Aubrey Plaza's black heart symbolism is more than symbolism and that she's Blackheart herself.

thing is him being billy is NOT a twist as that is who every one thinks he is

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KogaSteelfang
09/26/24 1:50:22 AM
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I know my thoughts and ideas are always dumb and usually way off base, but... What if he is...

Reincarnated Nicholas Scratch who is possessed by the soul of Wanda's Billy. Making him the son of both Agatha and Wanda.

Dumb, I know, but I like the implications for the characters.

Also, I really hope Sharon isn't really gone. I had a feeling she'd be killed off and I don't like it.

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KogaSteelfang
09/26/24 2:10:43 AM
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And does it bother anyone else that The Ancient One had to draw power from other dimensions to live for so long, when any random witch can just live half a millennium like it's normal?

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AceMos
09/26/24 2:28:14 AM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
And does it bother anyone else that The Ancient One had to draw power from other dimensions to live for so long, when any random witch can just live half a millennium like it's normal?
different kinds of magic

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008Zulu
09/26/24 2:30:54 AM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
And does it bother anyone else that The Ancient One had to draw power from other dimensions to live for so long, when any random witch can just live half a millennium like it's normal?
It must be how they access their power.

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Baron_Ox
09/26/24 2:47:46 AM
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AceMos posted...
thing is him being billy is NOT a twist as that is who every one thinks he is
it's still a twist if it's obvious to people; plus, you're saying that as someone more familiar with the franchise.

people who only know the characters from TV/movies might be surprised.

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pegusus123456
09/26/24 2:49:08 AM
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Yeah, you have to keep in mind that these movies and shows are made for people who don't know the comics.

...that said, YaBoyRoshi doesn't seem to know about any of the comic stuff and he still called that exact plot twist in his reaction video.

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Baron_Ox
09/26/24 2:53:48 AM
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tbh, I wasn't even thinking about who the character was due to all the alternate reality stuff, and a time skip I obviously missed/forgot about.

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pegusus123456
09/26/24 3:01:13 AM
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Baron_Ox posted...
a time skip I obviously missed/forgot about.
The time skip is just the natural passage of time lol. Wandavision came out three years ago.

Speaking of which, Teen said he's sixteen and that he had a rough time when he was thirteen. Hmmmm.

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Baron_Ox
09/26/24 3:04:26 AM
#28:


true.

I meant more like, I thought the kids were about 8-10 in Doctor Strange 2, so his age threw me off.

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Raiden2909
09/26/24 3:28:44 AM
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Fun episode, good god is Agatha a bitch and I love it

but ya, pretty sure that Teen is Wiccan

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pegusus123456
09/26/24 3:33:48 AM
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The interesting thing about this idea is that given Secret Invasion, his boyfriend actually could be a Skrull and could be Hulkling.

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gikos
09/26/24 4:37:31 AM
#31:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
Mephisto name dropped. I'm not familiar with the character but I know he's basically the devil and people have been asking for him since forever.
i have been burned too many times hoping for mephisto to show up that i gave up so this show will only tease us with that name drop only and nothing else the one way for him to show up is thru a ghost rider show or movie and also maybe a future dr strange movie where we finally see on screen debut for shuma gorath too as well

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Blue_Popo
09/26/24 7:04:20 AM
#32:


So where is mordo. He said he would hunt down magic users but there are so many out there
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Charismic_Zach_Gowen
09/26/24 7:17:34 AM
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Blue_Popo posted...
So where is mordo. He said he would hunt down magic users but there are so many out there

There's a deleted scene in Doctor Strange 2 where Wanda pulls out his head implying Mordo tried his shit with her

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Mistere_Man
09/26/24 7:23:01 AM
#34:


Charismic_Zach_Gowen posted...
There's a deleted scene in Doctor Strange 2 where Wanda pulls out his head implying Mordo tried his shit with her

Nice!

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Blue_Popo
09/26/24 7:56:17 AM
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Charismic_Zach_Gowen posted...
There's a deleted scene in Doctor Strange 2 where Wanda pulls out his head implying Mordo tried his shit with her

Well deleted scene isn't canon so he is still around
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CableZL
09/26/24 3:25:47 PM
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I enjoyed episode 3. This is shaping up to be one of the strongest Disney+ MCU shows if they can keep it up, imo.

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Xerun
09/26/24 9:53:18 PM
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Just finished. Good fun.

Im jumping onboard an old Wandavision standard and saying Sharon was/is Mephisto

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littlebro07
09/26/24 11:29:43 PM
#38:


CableZL posted...
I enjoyed episode 3. This is shaping up to be one of the strongest Disney+ MCU shows if they can keep it up, imo.

Agreed.

Crazy how a show about a character most people knew nothing about until WandaVision is potentially going to be one of the best MCU shows


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Euripides
09/27/24 9:42:31 AM
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This show is way more fun if you just pretend it's NOT a Marvel show but instead it's Hocus Pocus: The Series

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Doe
09/27/24 9:55:48 AM
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What I know about Mephisto is he's the character Marvel uses if they want to kill off any interesting character developments and keep the status quo in 1960

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GuerillaGorilla
09/27/24 10:15:40 AM
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So is this show about as lame as all the other MCU D+ shows or actually worth anything?

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Mistere_Man
09/27/24 10:18:47 AM
#43:


GuerillaGorilla posted...
So is this show about as lame as all the other MCU D+ shows or actually worth anything?

I have really enjoyed it so far. But it isnt over yet so we will see if it stays good or not.

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bsp77
09/27/24 10:21:48 AM
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Mistere_Man posted...
I have really enjoyed it so far. But it isnt over yet so we will see if it stays good or not.
Why are you even responding to him? If he thinks ALL are lame, he is likely trolling and/or hasn't watched them.

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Mistere_Man
09/27/24 10:32:31 AM
#45:


bsp77 posted...
Why are you even responding to him? If he thinks ALL are lame, he is likely trolling and/or hasn't watched them.

Oh sorry, I tend to be oblivious to many things at times, also I like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt I guess. Could be I am just a chatter box though too.

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TMOG
09/27/24 11:29:46 AM
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My problem with this theory is that Billy didn't actually exist in WandaVision, he was basically just a figment of Wanda's imagination made manifest by her powers. He didn't actually have any life or agency of his own because he was an extension of her mind, and completely ceased to exist once the spell broke down.

This would have to be a Billy from the multiverse who DOES actually exist as a person, and if so I don't know why he would travel to this specific world to get this specific Agatha to help him do anything, especially if it can be assumed that his goal in this case would be to get enough power to bring Wanda back... even though he would have never known this version of Wanda, unless he's the one she "attacked" at the end of Multiverse of Madness, and he would view her strictly as a villain.
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GuerillaGorilla
09/27/24 3:44:12 PM
#47:


bsp77 posted...
Why are you even responding to him? If he thinks ALL are lame, he is likely trolling and/or hasn't watched them.
I have watched them all. They are for the most part pretty lame. Only Loki and WandaVision are serviceable, and they have their problems too.

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Compsognathus
09/27/24 4:03:38 PM
#48:


TMOG posted...
My problem with this theory is that Billy didn't actually exist in WandaVision, he was basically just a figment of Wanda's imagination made manifest by her powers. He didn't actually have any life or agency of his own because he was an extension of her mind, and completely ceased to exist once the spell broke down.
This is more or less how the comics went down so I wouldn't rule out it being Billy because he disappeared originally.

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Rharyx211
09/27/24 4:07:03 PM
#49:


Kinda surprised the production quality is so much better on this show than in previous ones.

From the sets to the dialogue. Everything feels so much tighter than I've come to expect from the MCU lately.

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Euripides
09/27/24 4:14:47 PM
#50:


Rharyx211 posted...
Kinda surprised the production quality is so much better on this show than in previous ones.

From the sets to the dialogue. Everything feels so much tighter than I've come to expect from the MCU lately.

Really? It all feels so much like scenery on a soundstage to me (compared to, say, Hawkeye or Falcon and the Winter Soldier that felt like they were taking place in real buildings)

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