Board 8 > Pokemon leak: The focus on older Pokemon after Gen 5 is due to Gen 5 failing.

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KamikazePotato
10/13/24 6:24:59 PM
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Or at least a perceived failure in the west. Note that 'New York' is a codename for Black/White, while 'Beauty' is a codename for X/Y.

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LightningStrikes
10/13/24 6:28:29 PM
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Big mistake, and sure enough now the vocal fans love Black&White and the decisions of made. It does go to show that ultimately when you listen to stuff like this it results in less interesting works.

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HeroDelTiempo17
10/13/24 6:29:06 PM
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Am I also interpreting this right that the Kyurem fusion thing was going to be a more major mechanic and it got scrapped to focus on old mons, and they didn't want to repeat it in the gen after?

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Mewtwo59
10/13/24 6:33:40 PM
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So I guess that's why Audino is the only Gen 5 Mega, and why Gen 6 didn't get any in X and Y?

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TeamRocketElite
10/13/24 6:38:14 PM
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For context, BW came out September 18, 2010 in Japan. So this meeting is just 5 days after the Japanese release and several months before the English release.

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BlueCrystalTear
10/13/24 7:00:16 PM
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Black & White were great games even if they lacked in the Kanto and Johto Pokemon people love. I've come to truly appreciate Gen 5's roster, too.

But I can see why the series took kind of a nosedive after that. People just wanted to use 1-2 of their favorites + some new ones. And that makes sense.

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Kenri
10/13/24 7:04:00 PM
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Gen 5 was great and 6 was awful so this feels like it was definitely a misstep.

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KamikazePotato
10/13/24 7:11:20 PM
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Kenri posted...
Gen 5 was great and 6 was awful so this feels like it was definitely a misstep.
Not for their bottom line it wasn't!

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swordz9
10/13/24 7:12:30 PM
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Gen 5 was the last great Pokemon gen.
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WazzupGenius00
10/13/24 7:16:40 PM
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Pokemon leaks who cares

the REAL shocker from this leak is the near-complete Super Famicom version of Quinty aka Mendel Palace

god willing they'll find a more fleshed out version of Jerry Boy 2 in there somewhere

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Leafeon13N
10/13/24 7:22:38 PM
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I feel called out in that chat log.
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WazzupGenius00
10/13/24 7:23:32 PM
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Oh also people are thinking this part might be fake, Centro Leaks is just reposting anything they find on 4chan claiming to be part of the leak even if it's not verified yet

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ctesjbuvf
10/13/24 7:29:04 PM
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The thing is, gen 5 is most popular (or at least close to) among the fanbase that will loyally buy all the games, so them being loud doesn't matter too much when the sales don't support it. It's also easier to hook new fans or less loyals ones by giving them something they know.

Gen 5 was my favorite too but yeah.

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Leafeon13N
10/13/24 7:33:30 PM
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WazzupGenius00 posted...
Oh also people are thinking this part might be fake, Centro Leaks is just reposting anything they find on 4chan claiming to be part of the leak even if it's not verified yet
Yeah this is possible. CentroLeaks has reported plenty of things that turned out to be loads of crap.
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MacArrowny
10/13/24 7:56:57 PM
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Despite the DS being Nintendo biggest selling system, BW is the worst-selling entry in the series.

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swirIdude
10/14/24 12:57:41 AM
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Leafeon13N posted...
Yeah this is possible. CentroLeaks has reported plenty of things that turned out to be loads of crap.

Confirmed fake.

https://x.com/CentroLeaks/status/1845650030931124548

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MZero
10/14/24 1:02:21 AM
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yeah this seemed pretty fake, not surprised
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KamikazePotato
10/14/24 1:02:29 AM
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Damn, got baited by fake news.

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mnk
10/14/24 1:11:35 AM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Damn, got baited by fake news.

It just felt so true.

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-hotdogturtle--
10/14/24 1:56:19 AM
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You can tell that this was written by somebody who wasn't around during gen 5 release because they're acting as though it wasn't popular at release.

Also the fact that they're talking about overseas players accessing the Dream World when a) this was before the overseas release of the game, and b) the Global Link wasn't even online on the date that this claims to be written.

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Grand_Kirby
10/14/24 2:00:07 AM
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https://youtu.be/YWdD206eSv0?si=mTFdoOOSHnVXb41n

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Meow1000
10/14/24 2:04:10 AM
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Gen 5 had a running string of topics that hit 500 on this very board. Gen 6 here was much more of a whimper.

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malyg
10/14/24 5:26:09 AM
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Meow1000 posted...
Gen 5 had a running string of topics that hit 500 on this very board. Gen 6 here was much more of a whimper.

Do Nintendo keep track of that metric?
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andylt
10/14/24 6:16:02 AM
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I hear Game Freak decided to give Charizard extra attention after it did so well in Character Battles here.
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SaveEstelle
10/14/24 9:10:00 AM
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CentroLeaks sucks.

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Wanglicious
10/14/24 9:48:23 AM
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it's hard to tell what's real or isn't in all the leaks.

though the straight up fanfiction involving typhlosion, vigoroth, etc all seem real so uhhhh


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PrivateBiscuit1
10/14/24 10:16:00 AM
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Is anything true about them really wanting the player to fuck the Pokemon?

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Leafeon13N
10/14/24 10:30:08 AM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Is anything true about them really wanting the player to fuck the Pokemon?
We know this is true without the lore.
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TeamRocketElite
10/14/24 11:18:08 AM
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-hotdogturtle-- posted...
Also the fact that they're talking about overseas players accessing the Dream World when a) this was before the overseas release of the game, and b) the Global Link wasn't even online on the date that this claims to be written.


The line said it was from during the development of Dream World. So it would have been internal feedback or focus groups or stuff like that. But, that line did seem suspicious to me since Dream World is just as functional here as it is in Japan. Far more so then the Funfest Missions of BW2.

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Dark_Young_Link
10/14/24 11:24:45 AM
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Glad it wasn't real. Though it is a shame that after Gen 5, Gamefreak decided to go too far in the opposite direction. Gen 6 felt more like a Gen 1 remaster than a Gen 6 game half the time. Like the Kalos starters not getting Megas but the Kanto starters do? The fuck was that decision?

Wanglicious posted...
though the straight up fanfiction involving typhlosion, vigoroth, etc all seem real so uhhhh

Wait what happened to my mon Typhlosion?

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Wanglicious
10/14/24 11:41:59 AM
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Dark_Young_Link posted...


Wait what happened to my mon Typhlosion?

kidnaps, possibly rapes, definitely gaslights, a woman to give a half human half pokemon breed.

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MZero
10/14/24 12:07:04 PM
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The T-Rex line out of nowhere feels so fake lol
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redrocket
10/14/24 12:47:14 PM
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MZero posted...
The T-Rex line out of nowhere feels so fake lol

Honestly that gave it away pretty much immediately.

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Dark_Young_Link
10/14/24 1:34:10 PM
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Tyrantrum is fucking awesome though.


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LiquidOshawott
10/14/24 1:39:38 PM
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wonder if it was timing based because it was close to 3DS time

could also be scared of Reshirams design and not really having a marketable Pokemon like other gens before and after

could also be because Pokemon fans were still trying to load a battle in Diamond/Pearl

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ZenOfThunder
10/14/24 3:25:49 PM
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