Current Events > Magic The Gathering is officially dead: Crossover sets legal in all formats.

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GhostFaceLeaks
10/26/24 12:05:28 PM
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https://www.thegamer.com/magic-the-gathering-mtg-universes-beyond-legal-every-format-standard/

There is a huge backlash going on to the point that stocks are going down and players are leaving en masse.

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Seaman_Prime
10/26/24 12:12:38 PM
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Youre gonna have to play against my Fortnite deck and youre gonna like it!
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GeminiDeus
10/26/24 12:14:22 PM
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Eh, with enough backlash, they'll undo it.

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kirbymuncher
10/26/24 12:18:40 PM
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I'm a little confused by this article saying they're going to stop doing straight-to-modern but then also saying they expressed desire to do more modern horizons occasionally

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Error1355
10/26/24 12:21:49 PM
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"Magic is dead!"

*people still spend hundreds on the next releases*

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RoosterGold
10/26/24 12:23:05 PM
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Error1355 posted...
"Magic is dead!"

*people still spend hundreds on the next releases*

I don't follow mtg but I feel like I've heard the fan base cry it's dead several times now

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Lokarin
10/26/24 12:23:44 PM
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how make bigachu commander deck?

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kirbymuncher
10/26/24 12:24:45 PM
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Error1355 posted...
"Magic is dead!"

*people still spend hundreds on the next releases*
This is sort of true but also I know far more people who have gotten out of MtG and moved to other games in the past few years than I know people who have newly started playing

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Turbam
10/26/24 12:25:49 PM
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Rarity gonna be in every deck

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TheDurinator
10/26/24 12:27:01 PM
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EDH becoming an official format was the beginning of the end, this is the end of the end.
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Error1355
10/26/24 12:28:17 PM
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kirbymuncher posted...
This is sort of true but also I know far more people who have gotten out of MtG and moved to other games in the past few years than I know people who have newly started playing

After being a whale in Hearthstone for like 4 years I'm done with collectable card games. Just too much money spent on a single game.

I won't touch Magic as I'm sure I'd get sucked in the same way lol.

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ProfessorKukui
10/26/24 12:31:08 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/eed82bd3.jpg

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ironman2009
10/26/24 12:32:19 PM
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That's ok I'll just play Sheoldred

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Jerry_Hellyeah
10/26/24 12:35:00 PM
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Nobody on earth should still be giving the tiniest fuck about whatever is going on in Modern and Standard. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Stop buying into weird Redditors and blog posts.

Play Commander and have some fun.

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kirbymuncher
10/26/24 12:40:33 PM
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commander is cool and all but sometimes I want to play actually competitively-minded 1v1 games

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Jerry_Hellyeah
10/26/24 1:08:14 PM
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kirbymuncher posted...
commander is cool and all but sometimes I want to play actually competitively-minded 1v1 games

There's your problem. Youre looking for a competitively-minded 1v1 game and you ended up play a card game instead.

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Enclave
10/26/24 1:12:24 PM
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MTG is great, I mostly play it with my wife and daughter.

You don't have to spend a ton of money at all if you're just playing it as a casual card game.

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Proto_Spark
10/26/24 1:15:03 PM
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I can see this being kind of a good thing? Having sets that are legal in some formats but not others is needlessly confusing, and only makes you wanting to play multiple formats more complicated. It is much simpler to say "hey all these cards are legal in everything", and the differences in the format make for more unique games.

It'll also help all those players who only started playing MTG because of the LotR or the DnD or Doctor Who sets etc... (who are most of the people I know playing MTG) move into other formats outside of just commander.
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Doe
10/26/24 1:16:55 PM
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I bought a box of the furry set and the art is cool but I don't really have desire to actually play the game

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DuuuDe14
10/26/24 1:20:48 PM
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Glad I play Yugioh

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GATTJT
10/26/24 1:22:59 PM
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Magic the Gathering: doomed since 1993

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GuerrillaSoldier
10/26/24 2:06:19 PM
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whining? on the internet? wow, no one could've expected that response


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OmegaM
10/26/24 2:45:10 PM
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If I cared about being a top Standard player, I'd be most mad that now I'd have to buy cards from two more sets a year.
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WingsOfGood
10/26/24 2:49:59 PM
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I play Dr.Who and tap him to empower my Frodo Baggins then I attach the one ring to Spiderman but first I let Cloud Strife activate his heal materia on Spongbob. When this happens it triggers the effect of my Ronald McDonald which make Rick from the Walking Dead stronger. As this happens Chun Li prepars to attack you alongside of 11 from Stranger Things and Hatsune Miku.

Robocop does nothing. I tap the Terminator.
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RoosterGold
10/26/24 2:51:25 PM
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So its just the same as when Mk fans get mad that Kratos and Jason are dlc

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Cartoon_Quoter
10/26/24 2:51:46 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
I play Dr.Who and tap him to empower my Frodo Baggins then I attach the one ring to Spiderman but first I let Cloud Strife activate his heal materia on Spongbob. When this happens it triggers the effect of my Ronald McDonald which make Rick from the Walking Dead stronger. As this happens Chun Li prepars to attack you alongside of 11 from Stranger Things and Hatsune Miku.

Robocop does nothing. I tap the Terminator.

I floop the pig.

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Irony
10/26/24 2:53:26 PM
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Cartoon_Quoter posted...
I floop the pig.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/69337ea4.jpg

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Shotgunnova
10/26/24 2:55:41 PM
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ProfessorKukui posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/eed82bd3.jpg
Exactly what I thought of.

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UnfairRepresent
10/26/24 2:57:03 PM
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Nerds gonna nerd.

If people want to play Fortnite cards with MTG rules. What's wrong with that? Let Wizards make their money.

If you don't want "Crossover" then just play vanilla MTG with other people who feel the same as you.

I don't understand the treehouse style gatekeeping of "NO! There is no change or evolution or new ideas allowed in this format! Everything must stay the same forever!"

Bitch you would never have even played MTG if that was the attitude from Day 1 because it never would have grown

I think the big babies just need to grow up

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Cartoon_Quoter
10/26/24 3:00:12 PM
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OmegaM posted...
If I cared about being a top Standard player, I'd be most mad that now I'd have to buy cards from two more sets a year.

This makes an already absolutely miserable Standard go from 9-12 sets to 13-18. Most games are already decided by turn 4. Aggro decks already have turn 2 wins. Even ignoring the absolute idiocy of trashing 25 years of your IP, this is just going to Standard even less playable than it has been for the last 5 years.

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SAlYAN
10/26/24 3:13:46 PM
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Magic can set up its Going-Out-Of-Business sale right next to Nintendo's.

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s0nicfan
10/26/24 3:29:23 PM
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The mtg community should have actually stopped buying the crossover sets if they didn't want this, but instead they bought them in record numbers.

From the article:
Universes Beyond is Magics sub-brand dedicated to adapting properties Wizards of the Coast doesnt own. Despite causing controversy within the community, they have consistently been among the best-selling Magic products, with Lord Of The Rings: Tales Of Middle-earth quickly becoming the best-selling set of all time when it launched in 2023.

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Cartoon_Quoter
10/26/24 3:35:16 PM
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It's not the community driving those numbers, it's fans of the outside IP.

Of course, that's exactly what Hasbro wants, so they're quite happy. But it's too soon to see how many of these people stick with the game once the set pandering to them stops being the flavor of the month.

To me, it's just typical C-suite shortsightedness. Take an extra dollar now, but lose a dollar a year. Eventually that's going to catch up to you.

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AnsestralRecall
10/26/24 3:37:55 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Nobody on earth should still be giving the tiniest fuck about whatever is going on in Modern and Standard. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Stop buying into weird Redditors and blog posts.

Play Commander and have some fun.

Fuck commander. It's the reason the game is dying.

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AnsestralRecall
10/26/24 3:41:02 PM
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Cartoon_Quoter posted...
This makes an already absolutely miserable Standard go from 9-12 sets to 13-18. Most games are already decided by turn 4. Aggro decks already have turn 2 wins. Even ignoring the absolute idiocy of trashing 25 years of your IP, this is just going to Standard even less playable than it has been for the last 5 years.

Lol, standard is the best it's been since at least Khans block

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AnsestralRecall
10/26/24 3:45:32 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Nerds gonna nerd.

If people want to play Fortnite cards with MTG rules. What's wrong with that? Let Wizards make their money.

If you don't want "Crossover" then just play vanilla MTG with other people who feel the same as you.

I don't understand the treehouse style gatekeeping of "NO! There is no change or evolution or new ideas allowed in this format! Everything must stay the same forever!"

Bitch you would never have even played MTG if that was the attitude from Day 1 because it never would have grown

I think the big babies just need to grow up

People who play competitive formats have no options for "vanilla magic" anymore

It straight up will not exist ever again

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AnsestralRecall
10/26/24 3:47:14 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
There's your problem. Youre looking for a competitively-minded 1v1 game and you ended up play a card game instead.

In a thread with some truly dumb posts this is by far the dumbest post

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Cartoon_Quoter
10/26/24 3:47:28 PM
#38:


AnsestralRecall posted...
People who play competitive formats have no options for "vanilla magic" anymore

It straight up will not exist ever again

Cube. Premodern. Rule 0 Commander.

It'll exist, just not anywhere Hasbro can touch it.

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AnsestralRecall
10/26/24 3:48:39 PM
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Cartoon_Quoter posted...
Cube. Premodern. Rule 0 Commander.

It'll exist, just not anywhere Hasbro can touch it.

Premodern I guess, but cube and 'rule 0 commander' are not competitive formats.

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DoesntMatter
10/26/24 3:48:48 PM
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i thought the crossover sets already were legal. huh.

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Cartoon_Quoter
10/26/24 3:49:31 PM
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AnsestralRecall posted...
Premodern I guess, but cube and 'rule 0 commander' are not competitive formats.

Oops. I missed word.

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DoesntMatter
10/26/24 3:50:40 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
There's your problem. Youre looking for a competitively-minded 1v1 game and you ended up play a card game instead.
sounds like you don't even know what Magic: The Gathering is

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AnsestralRecall
10/26/24 4:07:31 PM
#43:


DoesntMatter posted...
sounds like you don't even know what Magic: The Gathering is

Wouldn't be the first time he posted stupid shit about something he thinks he knows about

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Jerry_Hellyeah
10/26/24 6:23:49 PM
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Nah, Ive played off and on for 20 years. See how grumpy those formats make you? Come to the fun side! (As if WotC is giving you much of a choice) :)

Or you can get serious, shuffle your decks, and see what you cascade into.

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not_KDTProjekt
10/26/24 6:27:01 PM
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I'll happily sell anyone my collection for $20k and you're still probs getting a deal..... I haven't played in 25;years.
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Juhanor
10/26/24 6:52:10 PM
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Started playing a couple years ago with my friend who's played forever
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loafy013
10/26/24 7:37:17 PM
#48:


GATTJT posted...
Magic the Gathering: doomed since 1993
I'd say 95 or so. Fallen Empires is when I stopped playing.

Plus side, with this change, does that mean Unglued is legal to play now?

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