Current Events > What's up with young men being more conservative?

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Weren't we talking about the privilege thing?

All they had to do was show a modicum of compassion towards the struggles of young men.

why dont you outline for me specifically what it is youre asking so i can answer

if someone says "white men should stop doing X" and i already dont do X, thats how i know it doesnt apply to me

How is "white/male/etc privilege" not an attack on white/male/etc?

Its true that some of the discourse aims more to bring young men down rather than raising women up. Trying to equalize things that way is never going to work out for anyone. However, this is just a small part of the movement that should be ignored.

Unfortunately, social media influencers pounce on this and convince young men that this is the message from anyone on the progressive side.

ok this i dont even know how to answer, because i dont know how to interpret it as an attack

how is saying "certain demographics are more likely to receive XY or Z systemic benefits" an attack

I don't think they should take it as an attack, but it's easy to see how people can take it as an attack. It makes them feel as if they shouldn't feel pride when they accomplish something, or that their failure is only their fault.

I don't think they should take it as an attack, but it's easy to see how people can take it as an attack. It makes them feel as if they shouldn't feel pride when they accomplish something, or that their failure is only their fault.

So what is it supposed to mean?

"certain demographics are more likely to receive XY or Z systemic benefits"

I saw something like "when was the last time you saw anything positive said about young white men that didn't come from the right" and it's stuck with me.

I saw something like "when was the last time you saw anything positive said about young white men that didn't come from the right" and it's stuck with me.

Literally just a fun fact? Well, ok I guess.

What's an example of what something positive would be ?

I think literally just "We need white men too" is both all that can be said and all that needs to be said.

It's not a zero sum world

if someone says "white men should stop doing X" and i already dont do X, thats how i know it doesnt apply to me

I think the problem is also that people who feel they are being attacked well might easily be guilty of say apathy and not getting that such is just as bad if not worse.

i cant parse this, can u rephrase?

I remember how some time back then when men did point out the issues, they were labeled as incels or MRA.

I honestly can only believe that the left created this very monster.

Pretty sure identity politics is dead for the foreseeable future right now

Harris and others very explicitly said that she needed the votes of everyone. This campaign was a very non identity politics campaign.

I'm not talking about Harris. I think they actually did a remarkable job of not doing the Clinton glass ceiling thing.

Look at general lefty discourse. When you see white men brought up on the lefty internet space, would you bet more positive or negative comments coming up? And you know the average person just kinda skims social media comments and headlines and goes reactionary to that instead of reading any deeper.

This and anti-woke stuff is very popular among them as well. Someone might try to argue it is not but the answer is very simple, why do those youtube channels get so many views? It is called a grift. A grift means it is making money cause it is popular.

Then we see certains things are very unpopular among this demographic as the game or show comes out and metacritic shows they absolutely hate it. But then what do online spaces like CE say? Those aren't real votes?

The grift happens because it is a someone at least sharing a voice with them. These people actually wanted to feel some validation and the internet is all to keen at punching down.

Andrew Tates and the likes aren't the cause, they are the symptom. Ironically many videos talked about this and nobody cared, until votes starts being affected.

The internet got too comfortable at blaming and laughing at them for everything and now acts surprised they are not taking their side. Now the backlash will be really severe.

Look at general lefty discourse. When you see white men brought up on the lefty internet space, would you bet more positive or negative comments coming up?

How do do we get people to not associate random online discourse with the presidential candidate?

The grift happens because it is a someone at least sharing a voice with them. These people actually wanted to feel some validation and the internet is all to keen at punching down.

Andrew Tates and the likes aren't the cause, they are the symptom. Ironically many videos talked about this and nobody cared, until votes starts being affected.

The internet got too comfortable at blaming and laughing at them for everything and now acts surprised they are not taking their side. Now the backlash will be really severe.

What's an example of what something positive would be ?

If there was another group of voters who felt that they got all the blame and people laughed at them,
what would you advice that group to do?

I'm pretty sure that if someone try to come up with something it will be disregarded as being the results of privilege.

Never underestimate the influence of MAGA parents on their kids. They've had over 8 years now to brainwash them good, starting at an impressionable age.

Yeah. Truthfully someone like Asmongold for instance who is seen as such a grifter voice, he actually said himself if he were to identify politically he would be more or a liberal\progressive. But the thing is he won't ally with liberal\progressives because if he plays a game and dislikes things in it and talks about it he gets called alt right and a chud.
But here is the thing, his stream last night had concurrent 150k views for 12 hours straight.
Imagine if audiences like this could be captured rather than ostracized.

Not saying those young men were right to vote Trump, but there is a certain degree of just not caring about men's issues from the online left. The male loneliness epidemic is a genuine problem but it gets met with a lot of sneering, which is really bad on us.

The real problem will be when they have to reckon with their situations not improving a jot from Trump's presidency.

I will not. What are positive things that men want said about them?

Not saying those young men were right to vote Trump, but there is a certain degree of just not caring about men's issues from the online left. The male loneliness epidemic is a genuine problem but it gets met with a lot of sneering, which is really bad on us.

Equality feels like oppression when you've been on top. And honestly, social media has a LOT to do with it. It's not just Andrew Tate and shit, this's just normalized by people telling them they'rre victimized and everyone's out after them.

Fact is Democrats took Gen Z for granted when it was always going to be evenly split, like every generation before it.

Extend the same politically correct taboos on talking shit about white men than are extended to every other subgroup

I saw Asmongold videos out of curiosity since he got blasted here on these boards and the guy has pretty tame takes. He did say stupid s*** but he at least apologized. Funnily enough his ban actually helped him get a bit of his life together and other streamers that antagonized him turned out to be doing worse s*** than him, so there is some irony on all of it.

Calling everyone a chud hurts much more than it helps, but punching down your political "enemies" is too much of a dopamine hit, and now they're surprised people don't like them very much.

And guess what happens when you hostilize a group that turns out to be much bigger than it seemed?

Look at general lefty discourse. When you see white men brought up on the lefty internet space, would you bet on more positive or negative comments coming up? And you know the average person just kinda skims social media comments and headlines and goes reactionary to that instead of reading any deeper.