Current Events > Trump --- Charisma and Oratory Skill ?

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CobraGT
11/13/24 11:52:47 PM
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We have compared Hitler to Trump. Hitler is widely regarded as having been charismatic and being a compelling orator.

Honestly, I see conservatives, gunophiles, Christo-fascists and hordes disgruntled with Democrats.

Those rallies were empty and people were leaving.

But I may have missed it. Tell me how you see Trump. It is anonymous.

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Deej
11/13/24 11:55:00 PM
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Oratory Skill
Never have I seen a speaker weave so masterfully.
Concepts of a plan. Covfefe

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Diceheist
11/13/24 11:56:12 PM
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Clearly 10/10 at this point he's scammed the mightiest country on earth repeatedly.
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Ar0ge
11/13/24 11:57:04 PM
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Neither. He just tells people what they want to hear. Or he just repeats lies over and over again until people start believing it and it becomes what they want to hear.

You also have to factor in how dumb people have be to even fall for that shit. And there seems to be a ton of dumb people.
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CobraGT
11/13/24 11:57:30 PM
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Deej posted...
Never have I seen a speaker weave so masterfully.
Concepts of a plan. Covfefe

Diceheist posted...
Clearly 10/10 at this point he's scammed the mightiest country on earth repeatedly.



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CobraGT
11/14/24 12:09:03 AM
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Evenly balanced between

7 - 0

and varying amounts of glamor.

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haloiscoolisbak
11/14/24 12:10:28 AM
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Oratory skill we can call low I guess. He's nowhere near the speaker say Obama is

Charisma you'd have to say high.

Denying that is just stupid. He's been famous for decades

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Proto_Spark
11/14/24 12:13:50 AM
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Charisma is literally the only thing Trump has going for him.

Apparently, its more than enough. He has way less charisma than he did in 2016 because he's old AF, but its basically just leftover charisma from 2016-2020 that got him elected anyways.
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Sariana21
11/14/24 1:45:54 AM
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Actually, I've read that Hitler was not a great speaker, at least at first. He was considered somewhat of a buffoon, which was part of the reason he wasn't taken seriously.

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GGuirao13
11/14/24 1:47:19 AM
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He's incredibly charismatic and persuasive, but his speeches are absolutely incoherent and pointless.

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Shotgunnova
11/14/24 1:48:59 AM
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[CHA 20, INT 1] They're eating cats and dogs in Ohio!!

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PMarth2002
11/14/24 1:49:00 AM
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He has a con man's charisma that works on stupid people. I find him unpleasant to listen to.

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GrandConjuraton
11/14/24 2:07:30 AM
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He's a horrible speaker if you have a brain. If you don't have one, though? Top tier.

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thekosmicfool
11/14/24 2:09:45 AM
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I guess "slimy car salesman" energy is kind of like charisma.

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EPR-radar
11/14/24 2:13:43 AM
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You can fool some of the people all of the time, and there has probably never been anyone better than Trump at doing that.

People outside the Trump cult see the man for the corrupt evil criminal clown that he is.

People inside the Trump cult literally worship the man. E.g., the evangelicals among them would happily crucify Christ Returned if Trump ordered (or even suggested) it.

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Trelve
11/14/24 2:15:26 AM
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Charisma is very high, oratory skill almost non-existent.
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UnholyMudcrab
11/14/24 2:29:38 AM
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He has no oratory skill. He can't even put complete sentences together.

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DoesntMatter
11/14/24 2:43:06 AM
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he has a 0 in both but a 10 in luck

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Kradek
11/14/24 4:15:13 AM
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He has charisma, his oratory skill is basically non-existent and the people who think he's a great orator either ignore all the crazy shit he says or create alternative realities for what he said/meant "what he really meant was", "it was a joke!"

His charisma is a weird one as most people who see him as the absolute insane monster that he is don't recognize any within him, however it's obviously there for far too many people. So as much I may personally think he has the charisma of a serial killer telling you to your face that he's going to kill you and your entire family (not even that ludicrous of an example given what he's promised for his second term), somehow it resonates for others.

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CobraGT
11/14/24 2:58:42 PM
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If it was charisma, I argue that it would have been there in 2020.

A definition of demagogue: a political leader who seeks support by appealing to the desires and prejudices of ordinary people rather than by using rational argument.

So in 2020 all those south Texans who thought at first that the wall was brilliant, learned they could not pop over to Mexico for cheaper cigarettes. [Tabacco taxes] Lots of people in Michigan realized no one was selling papayas and watermelons from a truck during the summer and it was harder to get your roof reshingled.

I still believe people are calling Trump's appeal to armed 'patriots' charisma and Trump's appeal to Fox News charisma.

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Dynedux
11/14/24 4:37:39 PM
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Cant tell if hes really good or about 55% of this country is just a bunch of low iq, dumb shit motherfuckers

actually I can tell, never mind

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Mussurana
11/14/24 4:39:45 PM
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Apparently I have amazing saving throws in RL.

Regardless it clearly works on a lot of people.

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Squall28
11/14/24 4:44:05 PM
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I think it's more he understands human nature. Democrats try to appeal to people's morals. Trump appeals to people's insecurities.

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CobraGT
11/16/24 1:06:19 AM
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I think Trump's allure is situational. He has built up his persona with the media and Trump always stages. Trump is known to place his people in the audience as well. I just do not see awareness of others as being part of who Trump is.

I grant that Trump has developed the ability to create situations that work for him.

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Hyena_Of_Ice
11/16/24 1:09:28 AM
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I don't understand it either. He is an incredibly toxic individual. His lack of decorum, constant lying, absurd boasts, and sense of entitlement/it's all about me make him insufferable.
When I was a kid, Trump was precisely the type of person I was taught to stay the fuck away from, even if it meant quitting my job.
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Guide
11/16/24 1:16:25 AM
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I know we all hate him, but it's dumb to deny he has a level of charisma. That's literally all he has going for him as a person.

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CobraGT
11/16/24 12:26:32 PM
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I may argue later.

Achtung CE! Yesterday a trend started. The "yea's Trump has something mysterious" have surged ahead.

Less than half of CE is now saying 0 and 0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-skFgrV59A

I am amazed.

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bfslick50
11/16/24 12:29:27 PM
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Guide posted...
I know we all hate him, but it's dumb to deny he has a level of charisma. That's literally all he has going for him as a person.

I assume its different cultures finding different things charismatic. I can objectively see other people are drawn to him but Ive viewed him as an annoying idiot well before his political career. I literally dont see any charisma when he talks. Although after this election, maybe Im just neurodivergent

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PeteyParker
11/16/24 12:33:37 PM
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Diceheist posted...
Clearly 10/10 at this point he's scammed the mightiest country on earth repeatedly.

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