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CobraGT 11/13/24 11:52:47 PM #1: |
We have compared Hitler to Trump. Hitler is widely regarded as having been charismatic and being a compelling orator. Honestly, I see conservatives, gunophiles, Christo-fascists and hordes disgruntled with Democrats. Those rallies were empty and people were leaving. But I may have missed it. Tell me how you see Trump. It is anonymous. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Deej 11/13/24 11:55:00 PM #2: |
Oratory SkillNever have I seen a speaker weave so masterfully. Concepts of a plan. Covfefe --- Hey, everyone, what's going on in this topic? Oh. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Diceheist 11/13/24 11:56:12 PM #3: |
Clearly 10/10 at this point he's scammed the mightiest country on earth repeatedly. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ar0ge 11/13/24 11:57:04 PM #4: |
Neither. He just tells people what they want to hear. Or he just repeats lies over and over again until people start believing it and it becomes what they want to hear. You also have to factor in how dumb people have be to even fall for that shit. And there seems to be a ton of dumb people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CobraGT 11/13/24 11:57:30 PM #5: |
Deej posted... Never have I seen a speaker weave so masterfully. Diceheist posted... Clearly 10/10 at this point he's scammed the mightiest country on earth repeatedly. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CobraGT 11/14/24 12:09:03 AM #6: |
Evenly balanced between 7 - 0 and varying amounts of glamor. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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haloiscoolisbak 11/14/24 12:10:28 AM #7: |
Oratory skill we can call low I guess. He's nowhere near the speaker say Obama is Charisma you'd have to say high. Denying that is just stupid. He's been famous for decades --- Started from the bottom now we here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Proto_Spark 11/14/24 12:13:50 AM #8: |
Charisma is literally the only thing Trump has going for him. Apparently, its more than enough. He has way less charisma than he did in 2016 because he's old AF, but its basically just leftover charisma from 2016-2020 that got him elected anyways. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sariana21 11/14/24 1:45:54 AM #9: |
Actually, I've read that Hitler was not a great speaker, at least at first. He was considered somewhat of a buffoon, which was part of the reason he wasn't taken seriously. --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08); Pronouns: she/her/hers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GGuirao13 11/14/24 1:47:19 AM #10: |
He's incredibly charismatic and persuasive, but his speeches are absolutely incoherent and pointless. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shotgunnova 11/14/24 1:48:59 AM #11: |
[CHA 20, INT 1] They're eating cats and dogs in Ohio!! --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PMarth2002 11/14/24 1:49:00 AM #12: |
He has a con man's charisma that works on stupid people. I find him unpleasant to listen to. --- When money talks for the very last time, and nobody walks a step behind When there's only one race, and that's mankind, then we shall be free ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GrandConjuraton 11/14/24 2:07:30 AM #13: |
He's a horrible speaker if you have a brain. If you don't have one, though? Top tier. --- I'm pretty done, slap me 'round for fun. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thekosmicfool 11/14/24 2:09:45 AM #14: |
I guess "slimy car salesman" energy is kind of like charisma. --- Cover your knees up if you're gonna be walkin' around everywhere. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EPR-radar 11/14/24 2:13:43 AM #15: |
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and there has probably never been anyone better than Trump at doing that. People outside the Trump cult see the man for the corrupt evil criminal clown that he is. People inside the Trump cult literally worship the man. E.g., the evangelicals among them would happily crucify Christ Returned if Trump ordered (or even suggested) it. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trelve 11/14/24 2:15:26 AM #16: |
Charisma is very high, oratory skill almost non-existent. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 11/14/24 2:29:38 AM #17: |
He has no oratory skill. He can't even put complete sentences together. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoesntMatter 11/14/24 2:43:06 AM #18: |
he has a 0 in both but a 10 in luck --- R.I.P. America, 1776-2024 he/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kradek 11/14/24 4:15:13 AM #19: |
He has charisma, his oratory skill is basically non-existent and the people who think he's a great orator either ignore all the crazy shit he says or create alternative realities for what he said/meant "what he really meant was", "it was a joke!" His charisma is a weird one as most people who see him as the absolute insane monster that he is don't recognize any within him, however it's obviously there for far too many people. So as much I may personally think he has the charisma of a serial killer telling you to your face that he's going to kill you and your entire family (not even that ludicrous of an example given what he's promised for his second term), somehow it resonates for others. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CobraGT 11/14/24 2:58:42 PM #20: |
If it was charisma, I argue that it would have been there in 2020. A definition of demagogue: a political leader who seeks support by appealing to the desires and prejudices of ordinary people rather than by using rational argument. So in 2020 all those south Texans who thought at first that the wall was brilliant, learned they could not pop over to Mexico for cheaper cigarettes. [Tabacco taxes] Lots of people in Michigan realized no one was selling papayas and watermelons from a truck during the summer and it was harder to get your roof reshingled. I still believe people are calling Trump's appeal to armed 'patriots' charisma and Trump's appeal to Fox News charisma. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dynedux 11/14/24 4:37:39 PM #21: |
Cant tell if hes really good or about 55% of this country is just a bunch of low iq, dumb shit motherfuckers actually I can tell, never mind --- Well you can sig this if it makes you feel better! -STEROLIZER https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1567-adulting ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mussurana 11/14/24 4:39:45 PM #22: |
Apparently I have amazing saving throws in RL. Regardless it clearly works on a lot of people. --- System error, signature not found. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Squall28 11/14/24 4:44:05 PM #23: |
I think it's more he understands human nature. Democrats try to appeal to people's morals. Trump appeals to people's insecurities. --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CobraGT 11/16/24 1:06:19 AM #24: |
I think Trump's allure is situational. He has built up his persona with the media and Trump always stages. Trump is known to place his people in the audience as well. I just do not see awareness of others as being part of who Trump is. I grant that Trump has developed the ability to create situations that work for him. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hyena_Of_Ice 11/16/24 1:09:28 AM #25: |
I don't understand it either. He is an incredibly toxic individual. His lack of decorum, constant lying, absurd boasts, and sense of entitlement/it's all about me make him insufferable. When I was a kid, Trump was precisely the type of person I was taught to stay the fuck away from, even if it meant quitting my job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 11/16/24 1:16:25 AM #26: |
I know we all hate him, but it's dumb to deny he has a level of charisma. That's literally all he has going for him as a person. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CobraGT 11/16/24 12:26:32 PM #27: |
I may argue later. Achtung CE! Yesterday a trend started. The "yea's Trump has something mysterious" have surged ahead. Less than half of CE is now saying 0 and 0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-skFgrV59A I am amazed. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bfslick50 11/16/24 12:29:27 PM #28: |
Guide posted... I know we all hate him, but it's dumb to deny he has a level of charisma. That's literally all he has going for him as a person. I assume its different cultures finding different things charismatic. I can objectively see other people are drawn to him but Ive viewed him as an annoying idiot well before his political career. I literally dont see any charisma when he talks. Although after this election, maybe Im just neurodivergent --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PeteyParker 11/16/24 12:33:37 PM #29: |
Diceheist posted... Clearly 10/10 at this point he's scammed the mightiest country on earth repeatedly. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/be2d07d9.jpg --- "How can.. the Prime minister.. support a law.. that makes it illegal for people.. who....What I'm trying to say is.. Oasis rules!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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