Current Events > The Tactics Ogre LUCT remaster on Switch is so good

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Played the PSP remake over ten years ago and didnt enjoy it. The game was horribly unbalanced, many classes were useless and their skills were boring to use, and the text was far too tiny for the screen. Among other issues that plagued an otherwise cool game.

The remake overhauls the class system. Every class is useful (it feels more like FFT in this sense now), and skills are easier and more fun to use. Archers dont own the game now. You can speed up battles. Curscenes are how voiced with excellent VAs. The game looks great for a remaster of an SNES game.

This is a game that I really wanted to love on the PSP but just couldnt. This version fixes almost every issue I can recall. Feels really good to finally get to enjoy this game.

This and the Star Ocean 2 remake really fixed some pretty flawed PSP remasters of older games. Weird to say, but still.

I have the Steam Version of the LUCT Remake Remaster and I have to agree, it's my preferred version of all of them. (Excluding Mods)

My only gripe is the removal of random battles. While you can still do training battles against NPCs in a handful of maps, the variety compared to the PSP Remake is much lower now. We are expected to spend more time in the dungeon maps, but that makes it more repetitive cuz those were already played a lot to farm the high level gear, it was nice to do random battles with a larger variety of maps to choose from.

ZaruenKosai posted...

I have the Steam Version of the LUCT Remake Remaster and I have to agree, it's my preferred version of all of them. (Excluding Mods)

My only gripe is the removal of random battles. While you can still do training battles against NPCs in a handful of maps, the variety compared to the PSP Remake is much lower now. We are expected to spend more time in the dungeon maps, but that makes it more repetitive cuz those were already played a lot to farm the high level gear, it was nice to do random battles with a larger variety of maps to choose from.

For me, I like the ability to choose if I fight or not. Dont want to have to travel to shops, then go to the target, only to get ambushed by some garbage grunts.

i want this on Steam so bad. i need to get through some more of my backlog before I shell out for it though. but i might just end up getting it during the Winter Sale if it gets a deep enough discount. it's been ages since i've played it, but i used to be absolutely obsessed with it. i'd still consider it the hands down best TRPG ever made.

DoesntMatter posted...
i want this on Steam so bad. i need to get through some more of my backlog before I shell out for it though. but i might just end up getting it during the Winter Sale if it gets a deep enough discount. it's been ages since i've played it, but i used to be absolutely obsessed with it. i'd still consider it the hands down best TRPG ever made.

For Sure, the 12 VS 18 Battles will always outshine even the most tactical FFT Battles for me.
I just personally love seeing so many units in an SRPG battlefield (but still having RPG like control (So its not an RTS).

You can send little squads to different parts of the map which makes it really fun and engaging, it's a different type of strategy, and Tactics Ogre still has a lot of maps where its like 8 vs 8 so not every battle has to be some major skirmish with 30 Units, some can be more typical FFT Like and focused on smaller team strategies.

FFTs biggest hindrance was its limited battle party size, I mean techincally it has the same size as some JRPGs.
Final Fantasy IV has a Max Party of 5 .

^exactly. the 5 unit cap in FFT was just too small. the battles didn't feel epic ever. and personally i think the story in TO is waaaay better. the political intrigue is handled much more maturely. i'm a complete sucker for political intrigue in fantasy settings.

No its not, sorry. The PSP version is the better game. The only unbalance is archery hits more than it should. You could field a party of dragoons with crossbows and 1 healer and roll the game. It swung the other way in that auto boss cards and union level puts up major road blocks for advancement. The Hektor fight is a good example of this. You have a choke point up the stairs, so any melee unit you field will be stuck there for awhile. Ok lets put some archers on the left take out the guys in front of the boss. Pretty sure they are mages. Well doesnt take long and your archers are gone and the Terror knights have obliterated the choke point. Here comes mr Hektor with his big bad boss cards and hes level 22 (i think) You are 19 and that means you have the level 1 finisher he has the lvl 2. He has a double attack that hits singlely for 400-500. Your HP is around 500 at this point. Say goodbye to the remaining units. I put 500 hours in the PSP version. I know the game in and out. Got all the titles too. I love the game just not Reborn. Btw it took 10 tries to clear that one battle

vycebrand2 posted...

No its not, sorry. The PSP version is the better game. The only unbalance is archery hits more than it should. You could field a party of dragoons with crossbows and 1 healer and roll the game. It swung the other way in that auto boss cards and union level puts up major road blocks for advancement. The Hektor fight is a good example of this. You have a choke point up the stairs, so any melee unit you field will be stuck there for awhile. Ok lets put some archers on the left take out the guys in front of the boss. Pretty sure they are mages. Well doesnt take long and your archers are gone and the Terror knights have obliterated the choke point. Here comes mr Hektor with his big bad boss cards and hes level 22 (i think) You are 19 and that means you have the level 1 finisher he has the lvl 2. He has a double attack that hits singlely for 400-500. Your HP is around 500 at this point. Say goodbye to the remaining units. I put 500 hours in the PSP version. I know the game in and out. Got all the titles too. I love the game just not Reborn. Btw it took 10 tries to clear that one battle

Sounds like a skill issue to me, I didn't have all that much trouble with it after I got used to the battle system.

Not a skill issue. I can go though both POTD and San Bronsa with no deaths. It was pure luck. The issue is #1 map configuration. Range or Mage classes can plink at him but they have to get right up against that wall thats put you in range of everybody. Any melee that makes it through the "gauntlet" to confront him directly is met with a double dose of a finisher. That battle was the only one that had this issue. Theres a major disadvantage in what is supposed to be a mid game story battle. I had no problem beating it on the PSP version. So what changed? I rest my case. It's a artifical difficulty to stonewall people who have played the game before. It's poorly implemented. Now mind you that doesnt mean I hated my playthrough of Reborn. I find the changes were not needed and that in turn gave you less freedom. I'm someone who loves the game. I havent touched it since release and stopped just before the finish. A game should be enjoyable not a chore.

vycebrand2 posted...

No its not, sorry. The PSP version is the better game. The only unbalance is archery hits more than it should. You could field a party of dragoons with crossbows and 1 healer and roll the game. It swung the other way in that auto boss cards and union level puts up major road blocks for advancement. The Hektor fight is a good example of this. You have a choke point up the stairs, so any melee unit you field will be stuck there for awhile. Ok lets put some archers on the left take out the guys in front of the boss. Pretty sure they are mages. Well doesnt take long and your archers are gone and the Terror knights have obliterated the choke point. Here comes mr Hektor with his big bad boss cards and hes level 22 (i think) You are 19 and that means you have the level 1 finisher he has the lvl 2. He has a double attack that hits singlely for 400-500. Your HP is around 500 at this point. Say goodbye to the remaining units. I put 500 hours in the PSP version. I know the game in and out. Got all the titles too. I love the game just not Reborn. Btw it took 10 tries to clear that one battle

Do you think you could just maybe be biased because of how much you played the PSP version? There wasnt a single fight in any route that took me 10 tries

Agree 100% TC, what a massive upgrade over the tepid PSP version.

so much of the hate from players of the previous versions just seems to be unwillingness to accept the game does things different

Your old op strategies wont work as well. Find new strategies that the game has tons of and build new teams

I actually just started grinding through palace of the dead again and im actually having a fun time

The maps changing up your amount of units and having little gimmicks keeps things fresh