Current Events > Mel Gibson: Evolution Is Fake, Bible is "Verifiable History"

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https://www.joemygod.com/2025/01/gibson-evolution-is-fake-bible-is-verifiable-history/

Actor and filmmaker Mel Gibson went on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, where he discussed his faith, the challenges of creating Christian-oriented films in Hollywood and why he believes Darwinian evolution is a flawed theory. When the topic of the veracity of the resurrection of Christ came up, Gibson said he considers the Gospels to be verifiable history, pointing to extra-biblical historical accounts that confirm the existence of Jesus of Nazareth.
He also pointed out that all the apostles who spread the message of Christianity were willing to sacrifice their lives to spread the Gospel. Every single one of those guys died rather than deny their belief, said Gibson, adding that nobody dies for a lie. When asked about his views on evolution, Gibson was skeptical.I dont really go for it, he said. Ice Age dinosaurs what did they turn into?

Every single one of those guys died rather than deny their belief, said Gibson, adding that nobody dies for a lie.

this guy forgetting about anti-vaxxers?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/988420e6.jpg

There has never been any verifiable proof that the Book of Exodus ever happened. There is no historical evidence that an entire culture of Hebrews were ever enslaved in Egypt or that they then escaped and definitely no proof of any large body of water suddenly receding and then crashing back in again

We should have found human remains and chariots and swords and stuff under that water

Isn't he like....Catholic? And the church has fully accepted Evolution as long as it jives with human souls?

And um....lol at the Gospels being 'verifiable history' beyond the vague "this guy probably existed here because XYZ" when tons of shit they put in is complete unattested by contemporary historians.

And quoth Voltaire: "To die for a thing does not make it true." Plenty of Muslims died rather than renounce their faith. And many, many Jews did over the centuries, too.

fuck Mel Gibson

Pikachuchupika posted...

When the topic of the veracity of the resurrection of Christ came up, Gibson said he considers the Gospels to be verifiable history, pointing to extra-biblical historical accounts that confirm the existence of Jesus of Nazareth.

That only proves that someone named Jesus existed, not whether or not he was the Son of God.

Pikachuchupika posted...

Ice Age dinosaurs what did they turn into?

The dinosaurs were long dead by the time of the last Ice Age.

Dude needs to shut up.

I'm curious if he mentioned that extra biblical evidence since I'm not listening to that podcast. Was it the doctored Josephus nonsense? Also if people don't die for a lie then Muhammad must be real since you know, all the terrorist stuff.

Pikachuchupika posted...
Every single one of those guys died rather than deny their belief, said Gibson, adding that nobody dies for a lie.

Apparently he doesn't know how cults work.

God burned his house down

I don't want whatever he's smoking.

Ice Age dinosaurs what did they turn into?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/78fbfc78.jpg

I guess since people have absolutely died opposing/refuting Christianity, those people must be right and Christianity is actually bullshit, such a shame, guess he'll need to find a new faith.

"Nobody dies for a lie" is such an absurd and obviously self-refuting claim if you spend even a second thinking about it, it's a little embarrassing that's the argument he decided to make publicly.

Stupid Person Says Stupid Things

don't suicide bombers die for their beliefs?

I wonder how he'd respond if someone told him that God burned his house down as punishment for being a sanctimonious asshole?

He also pointed out that all the apostles who spread the message of Christianity were willing to sacrifice their lives to spread the Gospel. Every single one of those guys died rather than deny their belief, said Gibson, adding that nobody dies for a lie.

Lots of people have died for Islam, so by his logic, Islam must also be true.

Pikachuchupika posted...

nobody dies for a lie.

No one should be thinking like this after living through 9/11 or Covid lmao

no, you guys are misunderstanding him. see, the "nobody dies for a lie" assertion only applies to things HE believes in. if it's something that he DOESN'T believe, then obviously they are dying for a lie because they are ungodly heathens or blasphemers or wtf ever

I sure do want to take the opinion of an entertainer as fact

We need a new simple short word for Joe-Rogan-induced-mental-exhibitionism

Vivaldi7 posted...

We need a new simple short word for Joe-Rogan-induced-mental-exhibitionism

I mean Mel Gibson was a lunatic at least 10-odd years before Joe Rogan's podcast was a thing

Even today I think surprisingly few right-wingers can match the sheer insanity that was his reaction to the negative reviews for Passion of the Christ

AbsolutelyNoOne posted...

I mean Mel Gibson was a lunatic at least 10-odd years before Joe Rogan's podcast was a thing

Even today I think surprisingly few right-wingers can match his reaction to the negative reviews for Passion of the Christ

He should've just been happy that it made a ton of money and he got his vision out there. But with Mel, we were never dealing with a person of sound mind.

Joe Rogan could've been a hero if he just leaned forward at one point and quietly asked him "What do you think about the Jews?". Of course then other guests would know Rogan might ask awkward questions of them and not come on and then he might make less money, so...

AbsolutelyNoOne posted...

I mean Mel Gibson was a lunatic at least 10-odd years before Joe Rogan's podcast was a thing

Even today I think surprisingly few right-wingers can match the sheer insanity that was his reaction to the negative reviews for Passion of the Christ

Yeah but he manages to go just long enough for me to forget that and then he does something stupid and insane

Lillymon posted...

Joe Rogan could've been a hero if he just leaned forward at one point and quietly asked him "What do you think about the Jews?". Of course then other guests would know Rogan might ask awkward questions of them and not come on and then he might make less money, so...

Say what you want about Rogan, but he knows not to bite the hand that feeds him.

rodu_jr posted...

don't suicide bombers die for their beliefs?

To be fair they aren't writers of the Qur'an.

Kinda different between someone duped by a message thousands of years later and the actual guy who claims he saw miracles dying refusing to say he didn't

I knew Mel was a Christian nut job but anti-evolution? That saddens me.

Mel Gibson is Catholic, isn't he? Catholicism has held that much of the Bible is not meant to be taken literally and that evolution is, you know, true.

But "they died for something" doesn't mean it's true. Otherwise we're all fucked because Ashli Babbitt went and got herself killed

LeoRavus posted...

Every single one of those guys died rather than deny their belief, said Gibson, adding that nobody dies for a lie.

Apparently he doesn't know how cults work.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c6e27e17.jpg

"Nobody died for a lie"

Millions died for the false god that just got reelected.

SSj4Wingzero posted...

Mel Gibson is Catholic, isn't he? Catholicism has held that much of the Bible is not meant to be taken literally and that evolution is, you know, true.

Well...

Gibson was raised a sedevacantist traditionalist Catholic (who reject the validity of all Popes since the Second Vatican Council and hold that the Holy See is currently vacant). His father Hutton Gibson was an ardent sedevacantist and a Holocaust denier who held strong antisemitic views and supported various conspiracy theories.

Gibson, in a letter published by Italian Traditionalist Catholic author Aldo Maria Valli, on his website, on 6 July 2024, stated his full support for the recently excommunicated Italian archbishop Carlo Maria Vigan, who he praised as a "a modern day Athanasius!", stating that he agreed with him in considering that the "post conciliar church of Vatican II is a counterfeit church", and that "being called a schismatic & being excommunicated by Jorge Bergoglio [aka Pope Francis] is like a badge of honor when you consider he is a total apostate & expels you from a false institution." He also stated that "I am with you & I hope Bergoglio excommunicates me from his false church also."

Zikten posted...

There has never been any verifiable proof that the Book of Exodus ever happened. There is no historical evidence that an entire culture of Hebrews were ever enslaved in Egypt or that they then escaped and definitely no proof of any large body of water suddenly receding and then crashing back in again

We should have found human remains and chariots and swords and stuff under that water

The plagues of Egypt can be explained by an old volcanic outbreak, and the receding and crashing water could be a tsunami caused by the volcano.
As the story got retold a million times, things got exaggerated.
The OT clearly took old stories and said "hey, remember that old flood myth? It was caused by our God, this is the true story...".
Since it took place in Egypt, they had to invent a reason for God to punish them.
One interesting side note is that Egypt owned Canaan back then, so Moses & Co fled from Egypt to Egypt.

I mean he's welcome to have his own beliefs, nothing wrong with that.

Its when those beliefs are used to screw over others that I have a problem with.

Zikten posted...

There has never been any verifiable proof that the Book of Exodus ever happened. There is no historical evidence that an entire culture of Hebrews were ever enslaved in Egypt or that they then escaped and definitely no proof of any large body of water suddenly receding and then crashing back in again

We should have found human remains and chariots and swords and stuff under that water

There's evidence of Jewish groups talking about these as parables and not historical fact for a long, LONG time, too

Foppe posted...

The plagues of Egypt can be explained by an old volcanic outbreak, and the receding and crashing water could be a tsunami caused by the volcano.
As the story got retold a million times, things got exaggerated.
The OT clearly took old stories and said "hey, remember that old flood myth? It was caused by our God, this is the true story...".
Since it took place in Egypt, they had to invent a reason for God to punish them.
One interesting side note is that Egypt owned Canaan back then, so Moses & Co fled from Egypt to Egypt.

Yea but there isn't even any historical record of the Bible plagues happening. It doesn't need an explanation. The Egyptians didn't think it happened as they didn't write it down

AbsolutelyNoOne posted...

I mean Mel Gibson was a lunatic at least 10-odd years before Joe Rogan's podcast was a thing

Even today I think surprisingly few right-wingers can match the sheer insanity that was his reaction to the negative reviews for Passion of the Christ

ok please tell me what did he say abot negative reviews this will be a gold mine im sure

Lillymon posted...

Joe Rogan could've been a hero if he just leaned forward at one point and quietly asked him "What do you think about the Jews?". Of course then other guests would know Rogan might ask awkward questions of them and not come on and then he might make less money, so...

That has never been a line of question Joe asks anyone. Or anyone doing interviews. What might have been a type of question Joe or any interviewer might ask is do you regret stuff you said in the past.

If someone made that as the title of a thread on CE they would probably get modded for such a question.

Wonder if Mel was alive back in the day, he'd Called Mary Magdalene "Sugar Tits?"

That airplane movie coming up he directed looks goofy but goofy enough to be fun

Anytime I see a topic about Mel Gibson saying stupid shit, this clip always comes to mind.

https://youtu.be/vCKW4b36f9k?si=qsFjB5vqwzWWqfCY

Mel Gibson has been a shitstain for a long, long time.

Lillymon posted...

Gibson was raised a sedevacantist traditionalist Catholic (who reject the validity of all Popes since the Second Vatican Council and hold that the Holy See is currently vacant). His father Hutton Gibson was an ardent sedevacantist and a Holocaust denier who held strong antisemitic views and supported various conspiracy theories.

Yeah it has been common knowledge since Mel started acting that his father was in this weird sectarian Catholic offshoot cult. Mainstream Catholicism has plenty of problems--that's why I will never be one despite being brought up Catholic--but these people are next level. They took all the bad stuff of Catholicism, rejected the tiny amount of good changes Vatican 2 brought, added in a bunch of bad stuff from fundamentalist protestantism, then came up with a bunch of all new craziness to throw in the mix. So it's not at all shocking to hear him saying things like this.

Mel used to act like a normal guy who didn't subscribe to his father's beliefs. Whether he was areligious and apolitical in his youth then came to think his father was right as he got older, or he always believed this and now he just doesn't feel the need to hide it anymore, I don't know. But considering his "outbursts" over the years, I'm inclined to think it's the latter.

Baron_Ox posted...

this guy forgetting about anti-vaxxers?

Also Ashli Babbit

Pikachuchupika posted...

Every single one of those guys died rather than deny their belief, said Gibson, adding that nobody dies for a lie.

People die for lies every single day

In that same interview Mel also said he had 3 friends with stage 4 cancer completely cured by hydroxychloroqine and ivermectin and, ehhh, some sort of blue dye agent (new quackery!!)

Mel, Mel, where's your house?

Pikachuchupika posted...

He also pointed out that all the apostles who spread the message of Christianity were willing to sacrifice their lives to spread the Gospel.

Didn't happen as a historically verifiable fact. Like 10 of them stop getting mentioned entirely after the resurrection, one was killed by the state for political and not religious reasons, and only one died for their faith, but that one still isn't a gimme, either (for a reason I can't remember off the top of my head).

This has been covered in-depth by scholars for years. And more than a few YouTubers who have republished that, and offered their own, additional (oddly well-researched) evidence to debunk the "died for their faith" assertion.

WingsOfGood posted...

To be fair they aren't writers of the Qur'an.

I mean, the writers of the gospels weren't exactly writers of the gospels most of the time, broadly speaking.