Current Events > Are Republicans intrinsically more united than Democrats? If so, why?

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asdf8562 posted...

At the end of the day they all still morr united behind whoever the Republican General nominee is.

They don't spend months after the primary is over through purity nonsense and moral posturing their own that their general nominee isn't perfect without flaws they disagree with.

I'm sorry, are you unfamiliar with the Never Trump movement? Project Lincoln? Does none of that ring a bell to you?

People think the Republicans are united because they won the last election. Yeah... and they got one of the smallest congressional majorities in history to show for it, so how united were they really?

asdf8562 posted...

Hence the Republican playbook to prop up that mindset including even propping up the likes of Jill Stein, Cornell West and RFK.

None of those people are Democrats.

And Dems have similarly donated money and ad buys to Libertarian candidates in races where it looked like they might sap support from the Republicans. That's not a Republican thing, that's just a normal feature of "First Past the Post" voting systems.

darkknight109 posted...

I'm sorry, are you unfamiliar with the Never Trump movement? Project Lincoln? Does none of that ring a bell to you?

People think the Republicans are united because they won the last election. Yeah... and they got one of the smallest congressional majorities in history to show for it, so how united were they really?

You aren't making a point.

None of the people you listed changes the Republican majority base falls in line regardless if they aren't madly head over heals for their candidate.

Literally nothing you are talking about changes this beyond you trying to find rational to pretend otherwise. The bottom line is Republicans are more reliable to show up to vote to at the very least make sure Democrats don't win.

It's also not just the last election. It's the last 3 elections. Like it or not Trump changed the political atmosphere drastically, and his cult of a base is far more reliable to vote than ours. Even the people that dont like Trump, but hate Democrats more, will shut their mouths once hes the nominee, and show up election day to vote for the Republican in the general election. They are far less likely to hop on YouTube or Fox to critique how Trump did xyz wrong, and that we are all doomed, and that they will begrudgingly vote for Trump.

Democrats on the other hand in contrast have people far more likely to spend months after the general election is decided tearing down their nominee for flaws and positions they dont like. Being hyper critical about the nominee every step of the way.

darkknight109 posted...

None of those people are Democrats.

And Dems have similarly donated money and ad buys to Libertarian candidates in races where it looked like they might sap support from the Republicans. That's not a Republican thing, that's just a normal feature of "First Past the Post" voting systems.

And?

The topic is about what works for one and not the other.

In this political atmosphere, Democrats are far more divided and more easy to convince to stay home. Republicans are not as easy to convince to stay home general election day.

When Democrats attempt the strategy you speak of, the purity types and wanting to appear fair/balance types among our side use this as more ammo to justify their constant criticism of Democrats during an election. "Earn my vote" being go to, and being confused why people point out this only serves to help Republicans.

There's too many examples to count for Biden and Kamala, that in contrast to Trump would barely even be a blip in the right wing response if he did the same thing.

Republicans absolutely do not do this on the scale that Democrats do it. Fox News, Steve Bannon, and all of the right wing darling media/social media think tanks were not constantly being hyper critical of Trump for months before the election.

In contrast, Democrats constantly had their own "allies" being hyper critical of Biden/Kamala in an attempt to appear fair or above approach. With powerful voices constantly muddying the water. Even popular social media spaces you can try to deem as an ally to us, graded Biden/Kamala far more harshly than it did Trump.

That's not to say Republicans don't have their dysfunction. But where they unfortunately are far less dysfunctional is in winning general elections playing the long game, and more likely to unite in their messaging to make sure a Democrat loses.